hey *******, ill start off by saying i suck.. there i sayed it i have yzf600r . my wheelies are worth less and i feel if i go nuts on that bike im gonna mess it all up and i still owe hell money on it. i can do endos a lil and i can bearly wheelie 4 ****. im asking advice from anyone who'll give it. i was going to get a stunt bike then learn BP but.... here the Q, should i get a 50 to learn BP , then get stunt bike or should i skip the 50 and just get big bike and mess lots of money up wrecking? im 6'2 315pounds. any advice would be apreciated. did you guys get 50's first or some type of dirt bike to learn wheelies on first?? i mean i can wheelie mine but its hard unless im going slow and im to inexperianced to go slow any body got there 4 me??

 

Get some rashed plastics and a cage Problem Solved

 

it might help a lil with brake controll but a big bike has a different feel to it, but get a fifty anyway there fun.

 

For your size a 70 or higher might be better. For me, the 50 gave me tons of confidence with the rear brake. Which is a good thing when trying to learn BP.
If I could do it over again, I would borrow a friends 50 and practice for a week. Learn to slow the wheelie down in 1st through 3rd then start slowly practicing with the big bike. If you have $500-1000 laying around then get a 50. There great fun too!!
Except for the fiddy *** the first few weeks

Even after many hours on the 50 and being able to rock em for blocks, it was still back to the drawing board once I started pulling em up high on the big bike. The main thing was having confidence in that rear BRAKE!!

 

get a fifty...buy a rear big spoke kit...yes it will help...no you're not too big...i'm 275 or so..you'll just break rear spokes with fast circles..that's why you need big ones...

 

the 50 will help with brake controll and get you use to the feeling of balance point and throttle control. but when you go to try it on the big bike the thing that will change is where the balance piont is. the 50 is a greatr tool and a very fun toy. you wont be sorry if you buy one. and if you dont like it some one is always willing to buy it.

 

Absolutely. The 50 is worth it even if you aren't trying to learn wheelies for a big bike.

 

Oh man, the fiddy *** for the first few weeks is terrible!! It looks all red and hurts like a b!t$h every time you get back on your fiddy. I didn't know what to think about all that, im glad it went away after i got "used to it".

 

I saw Mike Smith (B.Smith's bro) doing pretty good, better than I thought he would on his GSXR750 like his 3rd-4th time riding it. was doin slow stuff, nothing special, but done with some skill, and from what I know has rarely to never messed with street stuntin before, but he kills a 50 all the time, it worked good for him, so it might work for you too

 

i hope it dose. what sucks is i never had dirtbike or somthing as kid to have practiced wheelies back in day like alot of you guys. my 600 was the first bike i had with a engine in it. so im going with no skill whatso ever trying to learn slow wheelies. WTF . isint it normally like, lil dirt bike , learn powers/cluctch. then a street bike powers/ then clutch isnt that how it works??? well normally i meen. im skiping the first 3 steps of the chain. so i have no doubt in my mind it will help with confedince do anyone agree with me thats how the chain eveolves for the normal stunta?

reapeted chain- time line-----------> young--->old
(dirt bike) learn power or clutch ups, dont matter. then after a lil bit you get a 600 or so street bike and do power ups then graduate to clutch? so buy the time your doing what im trying to do you have atleast a year of experiance "riding" wheelies at BP or a lil off

 

I went straight to a CBR600F4 and started wheelieing with having no prior skill on a dirtbike of any kind. After i learned to wheelie decent on my streetbike ,i got a fiddy just to have fun on and practice. Believe it or not, the 50 helped with my stunting on my "big bike". But generally you definitely want to start with powering it up rather than using the clutch, especially if you havent clutched a dirtbike up before. It could be done w/o riding a dirtbike for sure, but to skip the powering ups and the dirtbike it might be sketchy.