Superstreetbike Magazine
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by R1Aaron
That's awesome! Please elaborate!
This makes me laugh because a few months ago our marketing/readership people actually suggested to me that the writing in Super Streetbike was slightly too sophisticated for newsstand success. Unless you've done a Masters in Writing program you probably don't know that most newspapers and general magazines (think Time or Newsweek) are written at a fourth-grade comprehension level, based on word length, sentence structure and other measures (for real, I'm not making this up). A structural analysis of a recent issue of Super Streetbike showed that we have a tendency to use lots of long introductory clauses, too many complex/compound sentences (like this one...) and lots of higher-level punctuation---m-dashes, ellipses and colon series--so our stuff is typically written closer to an eighth-grade level comprehension wise. So actually, we're aiming our writing at 13 year olds, but we're doing our best now to dumb it down for nine year olds soon.
Blame Tony D and all my other over-educated contributors. Hell, I heard TD was spotted *teaching* English in a classroom a few weeks ago!
Aaron Frank
Editor in Chief, Super Streetbike
P.S. Yes, Primedia really pays people to study stuff like that.
P.P.S. You should listen to the circulation people who are paid to study newsstand sales and what covers sell best on the newsstand bitch at me--they totally freaked-out over our Darius cover. (which sold well, by the way, idiots...)
This makes me laugh because a few months ago our marketing/readership people actually suggested to me that the writing in Super Streetbike was slightly too sophisticated for newsstand success. Unless you've done a Masters in Writing program you probably don't know that most newspapers and general magazines (think Time or Newsweek) are written at a fourth-grade comprehension level, based on word length, sentence structure and other measures (for real, I'm not making this up). A structural analysis of a recent issue of Super Streetbike showed that we have a tendency to use lots of long introductory clauses, too many complex/compound sentences (like this one...) and lots of higher-level punctuation---m-dashes, ellipses and colon series--so our stuff is typically written closer to an eighth-grade level comprehension wise. So actually, we're aiming our writing at 13 year olds, but we're doing our best now to dumb it down for nine year olds soon.
Blame Tony D and all my other over-educated contributors. Hell, I heard TD was spotted *teaching* English in a classroom a few weeks ago!Aaron Frank
Editor in Chief, Super Streetbike
P.S. Yes, Primedia really pays people to study stuff like that.
P.P.S. You should listen to the circulation people who are paid to study newsstand sales and what covers sell best on the newsstand bitch at me--they totally freaked-out over our Darius cover. (which sold well, by the way, idiots...)
Gambler isprobably wanting to read the magazine upside down and backwards!
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
That was pretty good Aaron, I am quite imperssed at the angle you took on approaching the mad hater. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that one. You know my style would have been a bit different like 2 words not, have been merry christmas either.
Seriously,
SSB is the only industry publication we have that set the standard for documenting what we do. It is ACCURATE and not full of emptyness. Its out there, you can get it anywhere. As a contributier, I thank everybody for your support as we will continue to put out the hottest mainstream motorcycle magizine on the stands!
TonyD
PS: The Junior and senoir class of MCST High School that took my journolism seminar 2 weeks ago all recieved a copy of SSB and thougt it was the coolest thing they had ever seen.
Seriously,
SSB is the only industry publication we have that set the standard for documenting what we do. It is ACCURATE and not full of emptyness. Its out there, you can get it anywhere. As a contributier, I thank everybody for your support as we will continue to put out the hottest mainstream motorcycle magizine on the stands!
TonyD
PS: The Junior and senoir class of MCST High School that took my journolism seminar 2 weeks ago all recieved a copy of SSB and thougt it was the coolest thing they had ever seen.
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
this might offend some people but it is in no way trying to:
the mag is great, dont get me wrong. i just got the newest copy tonite, as a matter of fact i have every copy. but in those every copies i noticed one thing, a lot of the same stunters. im not going into names, they know who they are. yes, i understand it is IMPOSSIBLE to get pics of every stunter. i know for a fact that i attended 2 of the events covered in past issues and one event had 6 pages of pictures. now on those 6 pages it had 2 pics of the same rider on all 6 pages. myself and 2 other stunters rode in this free-for-all event from the time the gates opened till the time the gates closed. maybe hoping to get maybe a half inch picture or something, but nothing. im not really going to keep rambling, but i just wanted you to know that there are other stunterz in this world just as good as the "spotlight" stunterz, but i guess thats the difference between getting a break and making it big, compared to still waiting for a chance......
dave
...but dont get me wrong, the magazine IS tight, and we DO need this magazine to help out our sport, so go subsribe, im hitting the link up after this post...
the mag is great, dont get me wrong. i just got the newest copy tonite, as a matter of fact i have every copy. but in those every copies i noticed one thing, a lot of the same stunters. im not going into names, they know who they are. yes, i understand it is IMPOSSIBLE to get pics of every stunter. i know for a fact that i attended 2 of the events covered in past issues and one event had 6 pages of pictures. now on those 6 pages it had 2 pics of the same rider on all 6 pages. myself and 2 other stunters rode in this free-for-all event from the time the gates opened till the time the gates closed. maybe hoping to get maybe a half inch picture or something, but nothing. im not really going to keep rambling, but i just wanted you to know that there are other stunterz in this world just as good as the "spotlight" stunterz, but i guess thats the difference between getting a break and making it big, compared to still waiting for a chance......
dave
...but dont get me wrong, the magazine IS tight, and we DO need this magazine to help out our sport, so go subsribe, im hitting the link up after this post...
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
I just uploaded our article in super street bike mag (jan issue "smokin") to our website ..... for those of you that have not seen it yet, it's a very straight forward and well written article with superb pictures!!
http://www.holdingitbig.com/featuredin.html
let me know what you think. thanks again super street bike!
http://www.holdingitbig.com/featuredin.html
let me know what you think. thanks again super street bike!
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by DNFstar
Canadian subscriptions are too expensive!!! Same price to buy it at the dealership 5 minutes from my house AND for Canadian orders they want $$$ upfront.
I SUBSCRIBED TODAY!!!! :YEAH :YEAH
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by R1Aaron
That's awesome! Please elaborate!
This makes me laugh because a few months ago our marketing/readership people actually suggested to me that the writing in Super Streetbike was slightly too sophisticated for newsstand success. Unless you've done a Masters in Writing program you probably don't know that most newspapers and general magazines (think Time or Newsweek) are written at a fourth-grade comprehension level, based on word length, sentence structure and other measures (for real, I'm not making this up). A structural analysis of a recent issue of Super Streetbike showed that we have a tendency to use lots of long introductory clauses, too many complex/compound sentences (like this one...) and lots of higher-level punctuation---m-dashes, ellipses and colon series--so our stuff is typically written closer to an eighth-grade level comprehension wise. So actually, we're aiming our writing at 13 year olds, but we're doing our best now to dumb it down for nine year olds soon. Blame Tony D and all my other over-educated contributors. Hell, I heard TD was spotted *teaching* English in a classroom a few weeks ago!
Aaron Frank
Editor in Chief, Super Streetbike
P.S. Yes, Primedia really pays people to study stuff like that.
P.P.S. You should listen to the circulation people who are paid to study newsstand sales and what covers sell best on the newsstand bitch at me--they totally freaked-out over our Darius cover. (which sold well, by the way, idiots...)
This makes me laugh because a few months ago our marketing/readership people actually suggested to me that the writing in Super Streetbike was slightly too sophisticated for newsstand success. Unless you've done a Masters in Writing program you probably don't know that most newspapers and general magazines (think Time or Newsweek) are written at a fourth-grade comprehension level, based on word length, sentence structure and other measures (for real, I'm not making this up). A structural analysis of a recent issue of Super Streetbike showed that we have a tendency to use lots of long introductory clauses, too many complex/compound sentences (like this one...) and lots of higher-level punctuation---m-dashes, ellipses and colon series--so our stuff is typically written closer to an eighth-grade level comprehension wise. So actually, we're aiming our writing at 13 year olds, but we're doing our best now to dumb it down for nine year olds soon.
Blame Tony D and all my other over-educated contributors. Hell, I heard TD was spotted *teaching* English in a classroom a few weeks ago!Aaron Frank
Editor in Chief, Super Streetbike
P.S. Yes, Primedia really pays people to study stuff like that.
P.P.S. You should listen to the circulation people who are paid to study newsstand sales and what covers sell best on the newsstand bitch at me--they totally freaked-out over our Darius cover. (which sold well, by the way, idiots...)
Tony's article was the exception.
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by NBSTUNTERZdave
i noticed one thing, a lot of the same stunters.
Here's the real deal, surefire ways to get your picture in a magazine:
1. Win a comp or contest. The same guys keep getting in the magazine because the same guys keep winning all the contests. And rightfully so--they 100-percent deserve recognition (and the sponsorship opportunities) that come from their exceptional efforts and hard work. Roll the dice, quit your job and dedicate your life full time to stunting like Darius, Tony D, Patrick Stephens, Kyle Woods, Jason Britton, etc. and you might start popping up in pictures regularly just like all the other trophy wavers.
2. Do something no one has ever seen before. Look at a guy like Kane--a realtive unknown, no videos, no t-shirts, no jock-hanger-on-ers, and he keeps popping up in nearly every issue because he's doing **** that no one's even thought of. Even if he does wear pink shoes.
3. Crash big in front of a camera.
4. Clean your **** up. Our magazine costs tons to produce and I'm not going to fill the very expensive, full-color pictures with pics of scrubby bikes, scrubby looking riders, or scrubby, half-*** stunts. You've got to be really good--Starboyz good--to pull that off. On the other hand, if you look cool you make my magazine look cool, so your chances improve.
5. Become the editor and then you can run your own pic every month! Works for me...
A
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
The scrubby bikes are the current status of the sport. By no means are they the pinnacle, but they do represent the reality. The peolple who have given all to this sport and have risen to the top as a result deserve every inkling of recognition they recieve, though it likely won't ever be reflective of the efforts they've put forth or the sacrifices they've endured to get there.
This being said, to arrgantly dispense a p)ss off type of reply to someone identifying himself as an avid supporter and reader of your magazine just because he requests a bit more balanced coverage is uncalled for.
Congratulations on being thought of as the best magazine by the vocal majority on this board, as well as putting your picture in every month.
This being said, to arrgantly dispense a p)ss off type of reply to someone identifying himself as an avid supporter and reader of your magazine just because he requests a bit more balanced coverage is uncalled for.
Congratulations on being thought of as the best magazine by the vocal majority on this board, as well as putting your picture in every month.
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by fireblade
The scrubby bikes are the current status of the sport. This being said, to arrgantly dispense a p)ss off type of reply to someone identifying himself as an avid supporter and reader of your magazine just because he requests a bit more balanced coverage is uncalled for.
Nothing in my above post suggested that it was aimed directly at NBDave or any other supporter or reader of Super Streetbike--it simply outlined our general process for selecting images for use in the magazine. Nothing more, nothing less.
Scrub bikes are representative of the *amateur* arm of the sport. You don't see rusted out Novas in Hot Rod or riced out shitboxes in Super Street, you don't read about playground rappers in The Source, and you don't see backwater strippers in Maxim--don't know why you would expect to see rat bikes in a newsstand mag like Super Streetbike.
That said, we show *plenty* of scrubby bikes each month when other more compelling factors override the condition of the bike (see: Tony D on the world's scrubbiest ZX9R on the freakin' cover of our Sept. 04 issue), and we feature assloads of shots of unknown and/or up and coming stunters every single last issue. One quick read of the captions of *any* issue of SSB will confirm this. Just cause we didn't show a shot of you yet doesn't mean we're biased.
Note to those with no irony gland: the above use of the subject "you" isn't directed at any specific person.
Aaron. Out. For real.
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by NBSTUNTERZdave
this might offend some people but it is in no way trying to:
i know for a fact that i attended 2 of the events covered in past issues and one event had 6 pages of pictures. now on those 6 pages it had 2 pics of the same rider on all 6 pages. myself and 2 other stunters rode in this free-for-all event from the time the gates opened till the time the gates closed. maybe hoping to get maybe a half inch picture or something, but nothing. im not really going to keep rambling, but i just wanted you to know that there are other stunterz in this world just as good as the "spotlight" stunterz, but i guess thats the difference between getting a break and making it big, compared to still waiting for a chance......
dave
i know for a fact that i attended 2 of the events covered in past issues and one event had 6 pages of pictures. now on those 6 pages it had 2 pics of the same rider on all 6 pages. myself and 2 other stunters rode in this free-for-all event from the time the gates opened till the time the gates closed. maybe hoping to get maybe a half inch picture or something, but nothing. im not really going to keep rambling, but i just wanted you to know that there are other stunterz in this world just as good as the "spotlight" stunterz, but i guess thats the difference between getting a break and making it big, compared to still waiting for a chance......
dave
Also if you look at the article again you will notice that almost all of the bikes were custom painted or had some kind something that made them stand out. It wasn't the fact that they were the "spotlight riders" it was the fact that they stood out. A brightly custom painted bike gets more attention then a person rocking a stock paint job with all of they boys stickers on it.
I have been telling everyone I see for the last 3 weeks that their bikes need to be in good shape and have a paint job that makes them stand out by stuntwars to get notice. By nice I do not mean expensive, you can do a nice job with krylon if you take your time. Ask Geared up or MotoPsychoZ. Also make sure you put your name and team name on your bike that is visible.
Don't take this as flaming I am just explaining myself and giving you a heads up of what to expect in the future.
David
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by R1Aaron
Here we go again...
Nothing in my above post suggested that it was aimed directly at NBDave or any other supporter or reader of Super Streetbike--it simply outlined our general process for selecting images for use in the magazine. Nothing more, nothing less.
Scrub bikes are representative of the *amateur* arm of the sport. You don't see rusted out Novas in Hot Rod or riced out shitboxes in Super Street, you don't read about playground rappers in The Source, and you don't see backwater strippers in Maxim--don't know why you would expect to see rat bikes in a newsstand mag like Super Streetbike.
That said, we show *plenty* of scrubby bikes each month when other more compelling factors override the condition of the bike (see: Tony D on the world's scrubbiest ZX9R on the freakin' cover of our Sept. 04 issue), and we feature assloads of shots of unknown and/or up and coming stunters every single last issue. One quick read of the captions of *any* issue of SSB will confirm this. Just cause we didn't show a shot of you yet doesn't mean we're biased.
Note to those with no irony gland: the above use of the subject "you" isn't directed at any specific person.
Aaron. Out. For real.
Nothing in my above post suggested that it was aimed directly at NBDave or any other supporter or reader of Super Streetbike--it simply outlined our general process for selecting images for use in the magazine. Nothing more, nothing less.
Scrub bikes are representative of the *amateur* arm of the sport. You don't see rusted out Novas in Hot Rod or riced out shitboxes in Super Street, you don't read about playground rappers in The Source, and you don't see backwater strippers in Maxim--don't know why you would expect to see rat bikes in a newsstand mag like Super Streetbike.
That said, we show *plenty* of scrubby bikes each month when other more compelling factors override the condition of the bike (see: Tony D on the world's scrubbiest ZX9R on the freakin' cover of our Sept. 04 issue), and we feature assloads of shots of unknown and/or up and coming stunters every single last issue. One quick read of the captions of *any* issue of SSB will confirm this. Just cause we didn't show a shot of you yet doesn't mean we're biased.
Note to those with no irony gland: the above use of the subject "you" isn't directed at any specific person.
Aaron. Out. For real.
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
Originally Posted by foto
Also if you look at the article again you will notice that almost all of the bikes were custom painted or had some kind something that made them stand out. It wasn't the fact that they were the "spotlight riders" it was the fact that they stood out. A brightly custom painted bike gets more attention then a person rocking a stock paint job with all of they boys stickers on it.
David
I freelance for SSB also. You and your bike have to stand out. Stock paint jobs simply blend. Even a rattle can lime green bike will stand out over every GXSR whatever.
Tony D's wheels are a perfect example. The 1/2 white 1/2 green wheels strobe when they spin.
Kane's now infamous pink shoes.
Brian Steeves Bright Orange bike
Warren Jamez and J Beats famous wrapped bikes.
More attention = Camera guys attention.
And also concur with the different stunts. Often I'll get home from a competition or show and I'll have 300 shots of wheelies. I know the acrobratics don't get as much respect, but they make for exciting photographs.
When there's lots going on, it's the bikes that stand out that will get the most shots.
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Or put just put your hot girlfriend on the bike and I'll take the pic.
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Re: Superstreetbike Magazine
I was gonna post all this bullshit about how you are treating the sport like the import car scene, and how we should be portrayed like skateboarders are, dirty, grimy, and in the streets and all that. But I just picked up the new copy, and you guys are starting to get it right. Thank you. You can still be grimey with a nice bike.
