rear tube
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rear tube
i am new to fiddy riding and so this might be a stupid question..
my back tire keeps going flat so i am going to replace the tube, the prob is that i dont know how to get the tire off the rim and the old tube out. also where can i order a new tube??? thanks!
my back tire keeps going flat so i am going to replace the tube, the prob is that i dont know how to get the tire off the rim and the old tube out. also where can i order a new tube??? thanks!
Re: rear tube
use some screw drivers man,, just pry the tire off like a bike ya know.. kinda hard to explaiun... its a pian in the *** so good luck.. i've changed my rear tube about 50 times so im gettin pretty good at it
Re: rear tube
get your self a set of tire irons i use 3 it doset matter what you use when taking the tire off but when you are puting the tire back on with the new tube they help not to pinch the new tube still got to be careful. also i would put duck tape around the rim helps keep the spokes from poping your new tube.
Re: rear tube
I started out just replying to your post but ended up doing a write up on it..
sorry if its boring too long or all common sense i just kinda started typing. maybe this will help you or someone else out..
Changing A Tube And Other Tid Bits.
Ok first walk into your nearest Honda Motorcycle dealership and go to the parts counter and tell them you need a set of tire irons.. 2 will work they usually come in pairs about $11 - $15 a third is a bonus. There about 1" wide and 12" long. Also tell them you need two 2.50/2.75x10 inner tubes. Yes two, trust me in the long run the spare will come in handy! They should only be about $8 each. They should have all of this right there in stock so plan on dropping $35 or so and heading back to the garage. using screwdrivers on the tire will work but half the time you end up pinching the tube putting the tire back on. the irons will save you alot of greif. don't worry you will become a pro at this soon enough!
Get the wheel off and make sure all the air is out. the idea with the irons is to take the hooked end and slide it up under the inside of the rim so that the hook part goes under the the edge of the tire. do this with both irons about 5 or 6 inches apart on the tire. you need to hold the rim down with your legs or something or lay it flat on the ground sprocket side down so that you can pry the edge of the tire up over the rim of the wheel.. you gotta work it around just like that till you get one whole edge of the tire off the rim with the other side still on. from here you can get the old tube out and a new tube in. get the valve stem in and secured with the nut then work the tube back in with your hands, now reverse the prying with the tire irons to get the tire back onto the rim and wala. Changed tube.
Theres a couple things you can do at this stage that you will probably thank yourself for later if you want to but they are not needed to get the job done. However they may save you some time and effort later on..
Change To A Street Tire.
if you plan on wheeling and mostly stunting around and riding on the streets with it you could go ahead and get a street tire for the rear atleast, if not a pair, if you got the $$ while at the dealer. this is if you dont really plan on riding much dirt or trail riding etc other wise the stock tire is your best bet or an even more aggressive knobby tire if you ride strictly dirt. if you ride street and stunt it you will eventually go to the street tire anyway so why not go for it while your at it?
If you are unsure skip it you can come back to it later..
My dealer stocks a Cheng Shin Highway 2.75" x 10" street tire for $17. Just ask them what they have. Some dealers may not have any and some may have different ones. as long as it is a 2.75" or 3.00" tire you will be fine (if you go to a 3.00" you will need a matching 3.00" inner tube, and the tire will be wider and taller on the wheel.
Duct Taping The Wheel:
If you are changing out tires or even just changing a tube for the first time go ahead and take the stock tire all the way off. slide the factory rim strip (piece of rubber that lays down over the spoke ends on the wheel) off without breaking it if possible. work it up over the edge of the wheel. now take a piece of duct tape long enough to wrap around the wheel, cut it off the roll and now fold it in half from end to end sticky side to sticky side. take it over to your wheel and snug it up over the tops of the spoke nipples on the wheel. measure it up so that it over laps ends about an inch and cut the rest off. now use the duct tape to tape it down over the spoke nipple ends good and tight with. it only need a couple layers no need to go crazy. use a pair of scissors to poke down through and remove the duct tape over the valve stem hole twist the scissors down in the hole so that it cuts the tape out. now slide the stock rubber rim strip back over the wheel and line up the valve stem holes.. now you shouldnt need worry to much about the spokes just make sure they are tight every once in a while..
Powdering The Tube:
Use a bit of baby powder on the tube itself if you are having trouble getting the new tube inside the tire on the rim. it will help it slide around easier while you work it in.
Soaping The Tire:
Something that helps out getting a new tire on when your at home is liquid dish soap. dont need much just run a thin bead around the very edge of the tire then spread it with your finger get a little on the very inside tip too. Be sure to get the tire on with the proper rotation (the sidewall will have arrows saying which way the tire should spin). use the irons to get the tire put back onto the rim. the dish soap will make it nice and slippery and will make it a bit easier to get the new tire to pop over the edge and onto the rim.
Check The Spokes:
I had a rough time last weekend poppin tubes left and right. I found when I got home that I had a few spokes loose and they were biting into my tube through the rim strip. I played hell finding a spoke wrence that fit the rim here locally but finally did. I didnt want to wait for shipping on it but BBR sells one for $13 on the web. I obviously needed mine in a hurry or would have ordered the BBR.
Well I hope this may have helped out a bit!
:YEAH
:YEAH
sorry if its boring too long or all common sense i just kinda started typing. maybe this will help you or someone else out..Changing A Tube And Other Tid Bits.
Ok first walk into your nearest Honda Motorcycle dealership and go to the parts counter and tell them you need a set of tire irons.. 2 will work they usually come in pairs about $11 - $15 a third is a bonus. There about 1" wide and 12" long. Also tell them you need two 2.50/2.75x10 inner tubes. Yes two, trust me in the long run the spare will come in handy! They should only be about $8 each. They should have all of this right there in stock so plan on dropping $35 or so and heading back to the garage. using screwdrivers on the tire will work but half the time you end up pinching the tube putting the tire back on. the irons will save you alot of greif. don't worry you will become a pro at this soon enough!
Get the wheel off and make sure all the air is out. the idea with the irons is to take the hooked end and slide it up under the inside of the rim so that the hook part goes under the the edge of the tire. do this with both irons about 5 or 6 inches apart on the tire. you need to hold the rim down with your legs or something or lay it flat on the ground sprocket side down so that you can pry the edge of the tire up over the rim of the wheel.. you gotta work it around just like that till you get one whole edge of the tire off the rim with the other side still on. from here you can get the old tube out and a new tube in. get the valve stem in and secured with the nut then work the tube back in with your hands, now reverse the prying with the tire irons to get the tire back onto the rim and wala. Changed tube.
Theres a couple things you can do at this stage that you will probably thank yourself for later if you want to but they are not needed to get the job done. However they may save you some time and effort later on..
Change To A Street Tire.
if you plan on wheeling and mostly stunting around and riding on the streets with it you could go ahead and get a street tire for the rear atleast, if not a pair, if you got the $$ while at the dealer. this is if you dont really plan on riding much dirt or trail riding etc other wise the stock tire is your best bet or an even more aggressive knobby tire if you ride strictly dirt. if you ride street and stunt it you will eventually go to the street tire anyway so why not go for it while your at it?
If you are unsure skip it you can come back to it later..
My dealer stocks a Cheng Shin Highway 2.75" x 10" street tire for $17. Just ask them what they have. Some dealers may not have any and some may have different ones. as long as it is a 2.75" or 3.00" tire you will be fine (if you go to a 3.00" you will need a matching 3.00" inner tube, and the tire will be wider and taller on the wheel.
Duct Taping The Wheel:
If you are changing out tires or even just changing a tube for the first time go ahead and take the stock tire all the way off. slide the factory rim strip (piece of rubber that lays down over the spoke ends on the wheel) off without breaking it if possible. work it up over the edge of the wheel. now take a piece of duct tape long enough to wrap around the wheel, cut it off the roll and now fold it in half from end to end sticky side to sticky side. take it over to your wheel and snug it up over the tops of the spoke nipples on the wheel. measure it up so that it over laps ends about an inch and cut the rest off. now use the duct tape to tape it down over the spoke nipple ends good and tight with. it only need a couple layers no need to go crazy. use a pair of scissors to poke down through and remove the duct tape over the valve stem hole twist the scissors down in the hole so that it cuts the tape out. now slide the stock rubber rim strip back over the wheel and line up the valve stem holes.. now you shouldnt need worry to much about the spokes just make sure they are tight every once in a while..
Powdering The Tube:
Use a bit of baby powder on the tube itself if you are having trouble getting the new tube inside the tire on the rim. it will help it slide around easier while you work it in.
Soaping The Tire:
Something that helps out getting a new tire on when your at home is liquid dish soap. dont need much just run a thin bead around the very edge of the tire then spread it with your finger get a little on the very inside tip too. Be sure to get the tire on with the proper rotation (the sidewall will have arrows saying which way the tire should spin). use the irons to get the tire put back onto the rim. the dish soap will make it nice and slippery and will make it a bit easier to get the new tire to pop over the edge and onto the rim.
Check The Spokes:
I had a rough time last weekend poppin tubes left and right. I found when I got home that I had a few spokes loose and they were biting into my tube through the rim strip. I played hell finding a spoke wrence that fit the rim here locally but finally did. I didnt want to wait for shipping on it but BBR sells one for $13 on the web. I obviously needed mine in a hurry or would have ordered the BBR.
Well I hope this may have helped out a bit!
:YEAH
:YEAH
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Re: rear tube
hey man thanks for taking the time to write all that up.. i printed it out and im going to keep it in my fiddy owners manual.
one more question though, where do you get your tubes from and how much do they cost, this is only the first one i have popped but i was thinking about buying them in bulk if this happens a lot!
one more question though, where do you get your tubes from and how much do they cost, this is only the first one i have popped but i was thinking about buying them in bulk if this happens a lot!
Re: rear tube
right from the honda dealer.. they should have them in stock. definitely buy atleast two.. never fail you pop one on a sunday when the dealers are closed till tuesday.. always have a spare. the honda dealer will stock the tube and the tire irons.
in bulk im not sure.. i just get them from the dealer.
in bulk im not sure.. i just get them from the dealer.
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Re: rear tube
thanks, i am such a moron though.. i tried doing it myself and then just took it to the dealer, the dealer gave me back the axle and hub and said he didnt need those.. well my dumbass left that piece in my girlfriends moms car and she lives 2 hours away. i even told the parts guy that i have those together for a reason , so i wont lose them
Re: rear tube
yikes! what did they charge you to do it for you? Its difficult the first couple of times but after that you get it down no problem, the tire irons make all the difference in the world..
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Re: rear tube
thats not right, you can buy a 3.00/10 tire and still use the same tube. the 2.5/2.75 will work just fine. also put a small amount of air in the tube once you slip it in the tire and it will help you to keep from pinching it
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Re: rear tube
Originally Posted by Fuscat
My bad Hurricane, I was told by my dealer to switch to a 3" street tire you needed a 3" tube. Sorry about the misinformation.
they were probly tryin to stick ya for the extra 35 cents
good writeup though, should sticky that for people
Re: rear tube
Thanks, I'd like to do more little write up help type things too. I'm no expert **** I've only had mine a few months but anything I can do to help others is cool by me.. I'm gonna PM Dan about it! :YEAH
Re: rear tube
DO NOT PUT ANY KIND OF TAPE ON YOUR RIMS USE A RUBBER RIM STRAP ONLY
sorry fuscat but dont do that youll regret it later and it will not stop a spoke from pinching your tube all it will do is get gooey crap all over your spoke nipples and will make adjusting them more difficult
there is also a tire tool called a breezer
a breezer and some soapy water and you can change a tire and tube in about 2 minutes
use a five gallon jug for sitting your tires on, and your knee to hold it
also do not use pure soap, use soapy water those tires do not have rim lock and on some you will spin the tire and pull it loose from the valve stem sepecially if you got some ponyies in your motor
some people put air in their tubes and some dont i dont because if you lay the tube in there right it shouldnt get pinched
also id say as a bike enthusiast you should know how to work on your ride
spend the 20 on tools to do the job once,youll have them for the next round
all in all fuscat good right up
sorry fuscat but dont do that youll regret it later and it will not stop a spoke from pinching your tube all it will do is get gooey crap all over your spoke nipples and will make adjusting them more difficult
there is also a tire tool called a breezer
a breezer and some soapy water and you can change a tire and tube in about 2 minutes
use a five gallon jug for sitting your tires on, and your knee to hold it
also do not use pure soap, use soapy water those tires do not have rim lock and on some you will spin the tire and pull it loose from the valve stem sepecially if you got some ponyies in your motor
some people put air in their tubes and some dont i dont because if you lay the tube in there right it shouldnt get pinched
also id say as a bike enthusiast you should know how to work on your ride
spend the 20 on tools to do the job once,youll have them for the next round
all in all fuscat good right up
Re: rear tube
Originally Posted by Z50NATIONALS
DO NOT PUT ANY KIND OF TAPE ON YOUR RIMS USE A RUBBER RIM STRAP ONLY
sorry fuscat but dont do that youll regret it later and it will not stop a spoke from pinching your tube all it will do is get gooey crap all over your spoke nipples and will make adjusting them more difficult
there is also a tire tool called a breezer
a breezer and some soapy water and you can change a tire and tube in about 2 minutes
use a five gallon jug for sitting your tires on, and your knee to hold it
also do not use pure soap, use soapy water those tires do not have rim lock and on some you will spin the tire and pull it loose from the valve stem sepecially if you got some ponyies in your motor
some people put air in their tubes and some dont i dont because if you lay the tube in there right it shouldnt get pinched
also id say as a bike enthusiast you should know how to work on your ride
spend the 20 on tools to do the job once,youll have them for the next round
all in all fuscat good right up
sorry fuscat but dont do that youll regret it later and it will not stop a spoke from pinching your tube all it will do is get gooey crap all over your spoke nipples and will make adjusting them more difficult
there is also a tire tool called a breezer
a breezer and some soapy water and you can change a tire and tube in about 2 minutes
use a five gallon jug for sitting your tires on, and your knee to hold it
also do not use pure soap, use soapy water those tires do not have rim lock and on some you will spin the tire and pull it loose from the valve stem sepecially if you got some ponyies in your motor
some people put air in their tubes and some dont i dont because if you lay the tube in there right it shouldnt get pinched
also id say as a bike enthusiast you should know how to work on your ride
spend the 20 on tools to do the job once,youll have them for the next round
all in all fuscat good right up
lol guess i will be getting that tape off now...u 


