for the takegawa big bore kits there is two kits that im looking at and that is the one that comes with the carb and almost everything else but the head, or im considering getting the head. Is the head worth it?

Also what about this>http://www.hondatrailbikes.com/catal...roducts_id=174 Is it garbage or is is good, Im kind of comfused with the price, it just seems too low

 

Sorry I diddent specify it was the 88cc kits

 

I would go with Kitaco instead of takegawa.There are many reasons but the main reasons are a 20mm carb, takegawa has a 18mm.Also the uni filter is way better than the junk K&N type.The other one is interesting seems like a good deal.The problem is if its to good to be true it probably is.My guess is that it is chinese made.All the chinese stuff is way cheaper .I cant confirm its chinese but I contacted him and he didnt say they were but he didnt say the weren't.So you make the call.I heard someone on this board say they were made by Kitaco I know that is not true.Hope this helps cya

 

there are a few people that run parts from a company call DRAT.... they say that the parts are Japanese made and of high quality, just no name brand....
Less money = same quality = name brand = , just my ...
do a search on older threads on the subject 88cc big bores .... lots of great info floating around on this board.

 

im the one who said it is kitaco and it is.i know this guy and it is a kitaco contracted parts.just not in the kitaco box or name.same stuff i plain white box.all japanese made with japanese gaskets just has a sengway copy of a kehin pc20 carb.it is a very gooddeal.i have one on my xr(with out the head)and it will hang right with my friends takegawa system.why spend the extra money for name brand.mine will pull 3rd gear wheelies with throttle alone with the 275.00 system.i have been dealing wit monkey bikes for 4 yrs longer than most and even befre an xr ws built.i you knew how much these name brand kits are really in japan you would cry.i can get a name brand kit directly from japan even with the outragous shipping costs for way less than one from 2 bros.takegawa makes them sells them to 2bros then it is sold again and marked up every time.who pays for all that you do

 

Ok Crowdlg, I belive you. you wouldent know if the head is woth it would you? because im willing to pay for it, and I want alot of performance just like every one else. lol :YEAH

 

Kitaco inner rotor kit!!Easy install 260 bucks approx.2-3 bike lengths per gear

 

Get the head, you won't be dissapointed. Got the inner rotor kit too and I like it.

 

the head is definatly worth it but on the inner rotor kit you will loose a lot of toruqe.it will rev a whole lot faster but wont have as much flywheel effect.if you want all out speed go with the inner but if you like to wheelie ii would just have my flywheel machined.the head will give big gains over an 88cc kit with no head more than a flywheel mod

 

I agree.... good advice
MFM Michigan Fiddy MaFia

 

Actually with any bigger head you will get more top and sacrafice a bit of low.The nice thing about inner rotor kits they let you add more timing.Yes the machined flywheels kick *** for half the price.

 

the larger head and valves are worth every penny. i've been told that a larger head is the most significant modification that you could make to increase power from the fiddy engine, but i can't vow for that. all in all, it depends entirely on what you're bikes uses are and you're riding style (ie stunt, dirt, fmx, motard, etc.) - that's what will determine which choices will work best. if you have the money and aren't quite sure whether it's worth it i would say hell yeah, do it. you'll be amazed at the difference it'd make.
B

 

what's the best all around set up I will be doing a little of all of your examples
stunt, dirt, motard, etc

 

thanks for all the replies guys, im going for the head :YEAH

 

ya, i've got one of the cheaper kits, my girlfriend bought it for me from fab5fiddy, i think.....??????it works great!!!! but let me tell you get the purple rev box and a smaller rear sprocket......

 

free i don't think i can tell you the perfect set up as of yet, i still haven't gotten enough experience w/ all the different combos of parts to be able to say, but hopefully soon i'll have these things on lock. talk to fab5 or maybe silver can help (i think he's running an xr70 head?), and good luck.
B

 

the race head makes it a whole new beast. with a nice exhaust u would never know that it was once a 50cc engine. the last one i put together with 88 and race head and ultima pipe sounds like a fukin 400ex. he can do donuts on the pegs on dry concrete in 2nd till the tire pops. its insane. 4th gear wheelies are off the hook too. :YEAH

 

also one point to think about is if you go with an 88cc kit with out the head it can be just bolt on a ride but if you are getting the head definatly think about going with a bigoil pump and your clutch wont last at all with the power of the head.so if your going with the head plan on the money for a clutch set up(175.00 ish) and at least a larger front sprocket or smaller rear(40.00)and oil pump(40.00)also with out a cdi you wont get all the benifit of it all(57.00)dont forget exhaust. what a money pit these are.but so much fun

 

are there ignition upgrades for 90's Z50's?

 

i think that is the same cdi upgrade box(kitaco,takegawa) as the xr should work but im not for sure.i need more info from others to tell you for definate.i do know all z50 in 88 up were cdi before that it was all points.