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Vote Bush
Senator John Kerry: “[I] Think I Have 35 Years Of Experience In
International Security, Foreign Policy And Military Affairs, And I Think
That Makes An Enormous Difference Here.”
The Economy & The Military - Where Does John Kerry Stand?
When it comes to the future of the United States of America, the American
Economy, American Foreign Policy, and the American Armed Forces, where does
Senator John Kerry (D, MA) really stand? I guess that would depend on who
he is talking to at the time; however, his actual record can be examined.
Let's take a peek:
THE ECONOMY:
Sen. Kerry’s plans for higher taxes, new regulations and more litigation
would devastate jobs across the country. He says he’s going to create jobs,
but the fact is that his policies will put people out of work.
- Sen. Kerry voted against expanding the child tax credit at least four
times.
- Sen. Kerry voted at least seven times against repealing the death tax.
- Sen. Kerry has voted at least a dozen times against marriage penalty
relief.
- Sen. Kerry supports higher taxes on small businesses, CAFE standards that
would decimate manufacturing jobs and even proposed a 50 cent increase in
the gas tax.
- Sen. Kerry is against common sense legal reform. He voted against allowing
a vote to approve a cap on punitive damages in product liability cases.
(H.R. 956, Roll Call Vote #152: Rejected 47-52: R 45-9; D 2-43, May 4, 1995)
- Sen. Kerry voted at least five times against capping punitive damages for
small businesses. (H.R. 956, CQ Vote #153: Motion Rejected 43-49: R 41-10; D
2-39, 5/8/95, Kerry Voted Nay; H.R. 956, CQ Vote #156: Motion Agreed To
60-38: R 46-7; D 14-31, 5/9/95, Kerry Voted Nay; H.R. 956, CQ Vote #44:
Motion Agreed To 60-40: R 48-5; D 12-35, 3/20/96, Kerry Voted Nay; S. 648,
CQ Vote #184: Motion Agreed To 71-24: R 50-3; D 21-21, 7/7/98, Kerry Voted
Nay; S. 648, CQ Vote #188: Motion Rejected 51-47: R 51-2; D 0-45, 7/9/98,
Kerry Voted Nay)
Senator Kerry wants to repeal the new tax cuts. If the current tax cuts are
not made permanent:
- 25 million small business owners would incur tax increases averaging
$2,853.
- In 2006, allowable small business expensing will shrink from $100,000 to
just $25,000, increasing the cost of capital investments for America's small
businesses.
- In 2009, the top tax rate on dividends will increase from 15 to 35
percent, while the tax on capital gains will climb from 15 to 20 percent,
raising the tax burden on retirees and families investing for their future.
THE MILITARY AND THE "WAR ON TERROR":
When America was suddenly and viciously attacked on 9/11, thousands were
killed, and billions of dollars of property destroyed. The United States
took the battle to the terrorists, instead of waiting for them to attack
again. We led the world to rid Afghanistan of its terrorist training camps
and freed the Afghani people from the murderous grip of the Taliban, and led
the international coalition to remove Saddam Hussein, a murderous dictator
who supported terrorists, used weapons of mass destruction on his own
people, tortured and murdered thousands, stole his country's wealth, and
invaded his neighbors. President Bush has firmly stated that he will never
seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country and the
American people.
Sen. Kerry’s statements indicate that he understood the nature of the threat
Saddam Hussein posed:
- “The Iraqi regime's record over the decade leaves little doubt that Saddam
Hussein wants to retain his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and to
expand it to include nuclear weapons.” (Sen. John Kerry, Senate Floor
Speech, 10/9/02)
For 32 years, Senator Kerry has repeatedly voted to make America weaker in
the face of these and other threats. He has repeatedly sought to cut defense
and intelligence funding.
- He opposed President Ronald Reagan’s efforts to fight communism in our
hemisphere, supported a nuclear freeze and opposed the first Gulf War.
(Brian C. Mooney, “Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One,” The Boston Globe,
6/19/03)
- Even after the first World Trade Center bombing, Senator Kerry proposed
gutting intelligence spending by $1.5 billion for the five years prior to
2001. (S. 1290, Introduced 9/29/95) In 1996, he proposed slashing defense
spending by $6.5 billion. (S. 1580, Introduced 2/29/96) BOTH OF SENATOR
KERRY'S BILLS WERE SO RECKLESS, THAT NEITHER HAD ANY CO-SPONSORS WILLING TO
ENDORSE HIS PLANS.
- When Kerry first entered the US Senate, he sought to cancel the very
weapons systems that are winning the war on terror and maintaining our
military strength. (Brian C. Mooney, “Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One,”
The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)
- Kerry has said that he views the War on Terror as “primarily an
intelligence and law enforcement operation.” (Sen. Kerry, South Carolina
Presidential Debate, 1/29/04)
- If Senator Kerry had his way, Saddam Hussein would still be in power, and
in control of the conquered people of Kuwait. (Kerry opposed the first Gulf
War).
- Senator Kerry has said he’d weaken the Patriot Act, the very tool that has
helped America bring terrorists to justice. (David Reinhard, “Let the Debate
Commence: Kerry vs. Kerry,” Newhouse News Service, 2/19/04)
- Kerry would give French and Russians veto power over American use of
force: "I would have done what was necessary to know that you had exhausted
the available remedies with the French and the Russians." (MSNBC's
"Hardball," 10/20/03)
- Kerry would leave America in hands of United Nations, letting China,
France, and Angola dictate American Foreign Policy: "I'll tell you, after
I'm sworn in, one of the first things I'm going to do is go to the United
Nations and turn over a new chapter in America's relationship with the
world." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 8/31/03)
- Kerry would leave American military policy in hands of United Nations:
"The fact is, in the [Use of Force] resolution we passed we did not empower
the President to do regime change, we empowered him with the relevant United
Nations policies." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 8/31/03)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against B-1 Bomber. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed 79-16:
R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against B-2 Stealth Bomber. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against F-14 Fighter Plane. (H. R. 5803, CQ Vote #319:
Adopted 80-17: R 37-6; D 43-11, 10/26/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against F-15 Fighter Plane. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against F-16 Fighter Plane. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against AV-8B Harrier Vertical Takeoff And Landing Jet
Fighters. (H.R. 2126, CQ Vote #579: Adopted 59-39: R 48-5; D 11-34,
11/16/95, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against AH-64 Apache Helicopters. (H.R. 2126, CQ Vote
#579: Adopted 59-39: R 48-5; D 11-34, 11/16/95, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Patriot Missiles. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed
79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Aegis Air Defense Navy Cruiser. (S. 3189, CQ Vote
#273: Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Trident Missile System For U.S. Submarines. (S.
3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted
Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against M-1 Abrams Tanks. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed
79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Bradley Fighting Vehicle. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Tomahawk Cruise Missile. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
AND THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG …
NOW JOHN KERRY WANTS TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT - AGAIN!
Kerry Touts His Experience, But Calls Any Discussion Of His Actual Record
"Negative Attacks"
FOX NEWS’ BRIT HUME: “[Kerry’s letter to President Bush] is an amazing
document in the sense that you talk about having it every which way on the
issue. Kerry has been running in no small measure on his Vietnam record….
John Kerry’s Vietnam War record and his medal-winning performance over there
has been a centerpiece of his campaign. Now he accuses the President of
making an issue of it, which the President demonstrably has not done. … So
now Kerry is saying, ‘I challenge you to a debate on this issue which you
have raised. And we shouldn’t be talking about this.’ Amazing.” (Brit Hume,
“Fox News Sunday,” 2/22/04)
KERRY TOUTS 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE…
Kerry Told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “[I] Think I Have 35 Years Of
Experience In International Security, Foreign Policy And Military Affairs,
And I Think That Makes An Enormous Difference Here.” (ABC’s “This Week,”
2/22/04)
…BUT SAYS DISCUSSION OF RECORD IS "NEGATIVE ATTACK"!
Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Said Kerry Had “Weak Voting Record On Military
Affairs.” “Sen. Saxby Chambliss contended that Kerry, the front-runner for
the Democratic presidential nomination, has a weak voting record on military
affairs. … Chambliss said in a conference call arranged by the Bush
campaign: ‘When you have a 32-year history of voting to cut defense programs
and cut defense systems, folks in Georgia are going to look beyond what he
says and look at his voting record.’” (“Senator Blasts Kerry's Military
Voting,” The Associated Press, 2/21/04)
- After Sen. Chambliss’ Press Conference, Kerry Accused President Bush Of
Using Surrogates To Attack His Vietnam Service. “Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry accused President Bush of using surrogates to attack
his military service in Vietnam and his subsequent activism against that
war. In a letter to Bush on Saturday, Kerry wrote: ‘As you well know,
Vietnam was a very difficult and painful period in our nation’s history, and
the struggle for our veterans continues. So, it has been hard to believe
that you would choose to reopen these wounds for your personal political
gain. But, that is what you have chosen to do.’ Kerry was reacting to
criticism earlier in the day from a leading Georgia Republican who, speaking
for Bush’s re-election campaign, predicted trouble for Kerry in the state's
primary. Sen. Saxby Chambliss said during a conference call arranged by the
Bush campaign that Kerry has a ‘32-year history of voting to cut defense
programs and cut defense systems.’” (Nedra Pickler, “Kerry Decries Bush Over
Attacks On Record,” The Associated Press, 2/22/04)
The Associated Press Headline Said It Best: “Senator Blasts Kerry’s Military
Voting.” (The Associated Press, 2/21/04)
International Security, Foreign Policy And Military Affairs, And I Think
That Makes An Enormous Difference Here.”
The Economy & The Military - Where Does John Kerry Stand?
When it comes to the future of the United States of America, the American
Economy, American Foreign Policy, and the American Armed Forces, where does
Senator John Kerry (D, MA) really stand? I guess that would depend on who
he is talking to at the time; however, his actual record can be examined.
Let's take a peek:
THE ECONOMY:
Sen. Kerry’s plans for higher taxes, new regulations and more litigation
would devastate jobs across the country. He says he’s going to create jobs,
but the fact is that his policies will put people out of work.
- Sen. Kerry voted against expanding the child tax credit at least four
times.
- Sen. Kerry voted at least seven times against repealing the death tax.
- Sen. Kerry has voted at least a dozen times against marriage penalty
relief.
- Sen. Kerry supports higher taxes on small businesses, CAFE standards that
would decimate manufacturing jobs and even proposed a 50 cent increase in
the gas tax.
- Sen. Kerry is against common sense legal reform. He voted against allowing
a vote to approve a cap on punitive damages in product liability cases.
(H.R. 956, Roll Call Vote #152: Rejected 47-52: R 45-9; D 2-43, May 4, 1995)
- Sen. Kerry voted at least five times against capping punitive damages for
small businesses. (H.R. 956, CQ Vote #153: Motion Rejected 43-49: R 41-10; D
2-39, 5/8/95, Kerry Voted Nay; H.R. 956, CQ Vote #156: Motion Agreed To
60-38: R 46-7; D 14-31, 5/9/95, Kerry Voted Nay; H.R. 956, CQ Vote #44:
Motion Agreed To 60-40: R 48-5; D 12-35, 3/20/96, Kerry Voted Nay; S. 648,
CQ Vote #184: Motion Agreed To 71-24: R 50-3; D 21-21, 7/7/98, Kerry Voted
Nay; S. 648, CQ Vote #188: Motion Rejected 51-47: R 51-2; D 0-45, 7/9/98,
Kerry Voted Nay)
Senator Kerry wants to repeal the new tax cuts. If the current tax cuts are
not made permanent:
- 25 million small business owners would incur tax increases averaging
$2,853.
- In 2006, allowable small business expensing will shrink from $100,000 to
just $25,000, increasing the cost of capital investments for America's small
businesses.
- In 2009, the top tax rate on dividends will increase from 15 to 35
percent, while the tax on capital gains will climb from 15 to 20 percent,
raising the tax burden on retirees and families investing for their future.
THE MILITARY AND THE "WAR ON TERROR":
When America was suddenly and viciously attacked on 9/11, thousands were
killed, and billions of dollars of property destroyed. The United States
took the battle to the terrorists, instead of waiting for them to attack
again. We led the world to rid Afghanistan of its terrorist training camps
and freed the Afghani people from the murderous grip of the Taliban, and led
the international coalition to remove Saddam Hussein, a murderous dictator
who supported terrorists, used weapons of mass destruction on his own
people, tortured and murdered thousands, stole his country's wealth, and
invaded his neighbors. President Bush has firmly stated that he will never
seek a permission slip to defend the security of our country and the
American people.
Sen. Kerry’s statements indicate that he understood the nature of the threat
Saddam Hussein posed:
- “The Iraqi regime's record over the decade leaves little doubt that Saddam
Hussein wants to retain his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and to
expand it to include nuclear weapons.” (Sen. John Kerry, Senate Floor
Speech, 10/9/02)
For 32 years, Senator Kerry has repeatedly voted to make America weaker in
the face of these and other threats. He has repeatedly sought to cut defense
and intelligence funding.
- He opposed President Ronald Reagan’s efforts to fight communism in our
hemisphere, supported a nuclear freeze and opposed the first Gulf War.
(Brian C. Mooney, “Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One,” The Boston Globe,
6/19/03)
- Even after the first World Trade Center bombing, Senator Kerry proposed
gutting intelligence spending by $1.5 billion for the five years prior to
2001. (S. 1290, Introduced 9/29/95) In 1996, he proposed slashing defense
spending by $6.5 billion. (S. 1580, Introduced 2/29/96) BOTH OF SENATOR
KERRY'S BILLS WERE SO RECKLESS, THAT NEITHER HAD ANY CO-SPONSORS WILLING TO
ENDORSE HIS PLANS.
- When Kerry first entered the US Senate, he sought to cancel the very
weapons systems that are winning the war on terror and maintaining our
military strength. (Brian C. Mooney, “Taking One Prize, Then A Bigger One,”
The Boston Globe, 6/19/03)
- Kerry has said that he views the War on Terror as “primarily an
intelligence and law enforcement operation.” (Sen. Kerry, South Carolina
Presidential Debate, 1/29/04)
- If Senator Kerry had his way, Saddam Hussein would still be in power, and
in control of the conquered people of Kuwait. (Kerry opposed the first Gulf
War).
- Senator Kerry has said he’d weaken the Patriot Act, the very tool that has
helped America bring terrorists to justice. (David Reinhard, “Let the Debate
Commence: Kerry vs. Kerry,” Newhouse News Service, 2/19/04)
- Kerry would give French and Russians veto power over American use of
force: "I would have done what was necessary to know that you had exhausted
the available remedies with the French and the Russians." (MSNBC's
"Hardball," 10/20/03)
- Kerry would leave America in hands of United Nations, letting China,
France, and Angola dictate American Foreign Policy: "I'll tell you, after
I'm sworn in, one of the first things I'm going to do is go to the United
Nations and turn over a new chapter in America's relationship with the
world." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 8/31/03)
- Kerry would leave American military policy in hands of United Nations:
"The fact is, in the [Use of Force] resolution we passed we did not empower
the President to do regime change, we empowered him with the relevant United
Nations policies." (NBC's "Meet The Press," 8/31/03)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against B-1 Bomber. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed 79-16:
R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against B-2 Stealth Bomber. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against F-14 Fighter Plane. (H. R. 5803, CQ Vote #319:
Adopted 80-17: R 37-6; D 43-11, 10/26/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against F-15 Fighter Plane. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against F-16 Fighter Plane. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against AV-8B Harrier Vertical Takeoff And Landing Jet
Fighters. (H.R. 2126, CQ Vote #579: Adopted 59-39: R 48-5; D 11-34,
11/16/95, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against AH-64 Apache Helicopters. (H.R. 2126, CQ Vote
#579: Adopted 59-39: R 48-5; D 11-34, 11/16/95, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Patriot Missiles. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed
79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Aegis Air Defense Navy Cruiser. (S. 3189, CQ Vote
#273: Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Trident Missile System For U.S. Submarines. (S.
3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted
Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against M-1 Abrams Tanks. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273: Passed
79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Bradley Fighting Vehicle. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
- Sen. Kerry Voted Against Tomahawk Cruise Missile. (S. 3189, CQ Vote #273:
Passed 79-16: R 37-5; D 42-11, 10/15/90, Kerry Voted Nay)
AND THIS IS JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG …
NOW JOHN KERRY WANTS TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT - AGAIN!
Kerry Touts His Experience, But Calls Any Discussion Of His Actual Record
"Negative Attacks"
FOX NEWS’ BRIT HUME: “[Kerry’s letter to President Bush] is an amazing
document in the sense that you talk about having it every which way on the
issue. Kerry has been running in no small measure on his Vietnam record….
John Kerry’s Vietnam War record and his medal-winning performance over there
has been a centerpiece of his campaign. Now he accuses the President of
making an issue of it, which the President demonstrably has not done. … So
now Kerry is saying, ‘I challenge you to a debate on this issue which you
have raised. And we shouldn’t be talking about this.’ Amazing.” (Brit Hume,
“Fox News Sunday,” 2/22/04)
KERRY TOUTS 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE…
Kerry Told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos: “[I] Think I Have 35 Years Of
Experience In International Security, Foreign Policy And Military Affairs,
And I Think That Makes An Enormous Difference Here.” (ABC’s “This Week,”
2/22/04)
…BUT SAYS DISCUSSION OF RECORD IS "NEGATIVE ATTACK"!
Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Said Kerry Had “Weak Voting Record On Military
Affairs.” “Sen. Saxby Chambliss contended that Kerry, the front-runner for
the Democratic presidential nomination, has a weak voting record on military
affairs. … Chambliss said in a conference call arranged by the Bush
campaign: ‘When you have a 32-year history of voting to cut defense programs
and cut defense systems, folks in Georgia are going to look beyond what he
says and look at his voting record.’” (“Senator Blasts Kerry's Military
Voting,” The Associated Press, 2/21/04)
- After Sen. Chambliss’ Press Conference, Kerry Accused President Bush Of
Using Surrogates To Attack His Vietnam Service. “Democratic presidential
candidate John Kerry accused President Bush of using surrogates to attack
his military service in Vietnam and his subsequent activism against that
war. In a letter to Bush on Saturday, Kerry wrote: ‘As you well know,
Vietnam was a very difficult and painful period in our nation’s history, and
the struggle for our veterans continues. So, it has been hard to believe
that you would choose to reopen these wounds for your personal political
gain. But, that is what you have chosen to do.’ Kerry was reacting to
criticism earlier in the day from a leading Georgia Republican who, speaking
for Bush’s re-election campaign, predicted trouble for Kerry in the state's
primary. Sen. Saxby Chambliss said during a conference call arranged by the
Bush campaign that Kerry has a ‘32-year history of voting to cut defense
programs and cut defense systems.’” (Nedra Pickler, “Kerry Decries Bush Over
Attacks On Record,” The Associated Press, 2/22/04)
The Associated Press Headline Said It Best: “Senator Blasts Kerry’s Military
Voting.” (The Associated Press, 2/21/04)
03-03-2004, 05:57 PM
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Re: Vote Bush
Originally Posted by ftrain
Why work for a defense contractor if you are a Dem. Smarten up kid. You raise and promotion depends on Bush being in office.
And who said I was a Democrat?
Re: Vote Bush 
03-04-2004, 10:50 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
aaahhh. Why don't you ask the Bush Administration about the National Security Plan that the Clinton Admin designed and handed over to them when he took office. The Clinton Admin practically handed over a detailed plan designed to specifically target Al Queda and Osama Bin Laden (btw, this was prior to 9/11). They all but said, "If you don't use this new plan, America will be attacked by some sort of terrorism soon". And what did the Bush Admin do with it? Nothing!!! They did what is typically expected of their Admin.... threw it out and ignored it. The Bush Admin thinks they know everything and from what I've seen.... they don't know ****!!! How are those "Weapons of Mass Destruction" that are pouring out of Iraq? How about Osama Bin Laden.... he's probably chilling with 2Pac on some island laughing about Biggie and WTC. And you ask about that Clinton National Security Plan.... yeah, it was put into effect on 9/12. So who's Bush killing? Bad Guys? Or innocent AMERICAN people?
Plain and Simple... BUSH SUCKS!! Nothing good has come from him or his cabinet. His whole "Regime" thinks they rule the world. You think Dean is an out of control tyrant.... why don't you take a good look at your President? He is a simple minded "Texan" and his "leadership" is ruining our country's reputation globally. He's done nothing but hurt us and our relationships with others with is "Martyr-Like" attitude. I bet 9/11 and Osama would have been dealt with a long time ago if Bush wasn't in office. And because Bush has HORRIBLE foreign relations, no one wants to help us. We can't (and will not) catch Osama alone. No one wants to help and it's because of this idiot we have in office. I Guarantee Osama is caught when Bush leaves office.
Also, if you think by lowering taxes it will make life easier, then you're just as much of an idiot as him. I can't wait for this so called "Leader" to be replaced. Our country is in the same position it was 15 years ago..... and I know how everyone likes to live in reverse. Everything about him and his belief's are wrong. He's, almost single handedly, ruined our natural progression as a country and world leader.
Brian
Plain and Simple... BUSH SUCKS!! Nothing good has come from him or his cabinet. His whole "Regime" thinks they rule the world. You think Dean is an out of control tyrant.... why don't you take a good look at your President? He is a simple minded "Texan" and his "leadership" is ruining our country's reputation globally. He's done nothing but hurt us and our relationships with others with is "Martyr-Like" attitude. I bet 9/11 and Osama would have been dealt with a long time ago if Bush wasn't in office. And because Bush has HORRIBLE foreign relations, no one wants to help us. We can't (and will not) catch Osama alone. No one wants to help and it's because of this idiot we have in office. I Guarantee Osama is caught when Bush leaves office.
Also, if you think by lowering taxes it will make life easier, then you're just as much of an idiot as him. I can't wait for this so called "Leader" to be replaced. Our country is in the same position it was 15 years ago..... and I know how everyone likes to live in reverse. Everything about him and his belief's are wrong. He's, almost single handedly, ruined our natural progression as a country and world leader.
Brian
Last edited by Brian_C6; 03-04-2004 at 11:02 AM.
03-04-2004, 10:57 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
Originally Posted by Brian_C6
aaahhh. Why don't you ask the Bush Administration about the National Security Plan that the Clinton Admin designed and handed over to them when he took office. The Clinton Admin practically handed it him a detailed plan designed to specifically target Al Queda and Osama Bin Laden (btw, this was prior to 9/11). They all but said, "If you don't use this new plan, America will be attacked by some sort of terrorism soon". And what did the Bush Admin do with it? Nothing!!! They did what is typically expected of their Admin.... threw it out and ignored it. The Bush Admin thinks they know everything and from what I've seen.... they don't know ****!!! How are those "Weapons of Mass Destruction" that are pouring out of Iraq? How about Osama Bin Laden.... he's probably chilling with 2Pac on some island laughing about Biggie and WTC. And you ask about that Clinton National Security Plan.... yeah, it was put into effect on 9/12. So who's Bush killing? Bad Guys? Or innocent AMERICAN people?
Plain and Simple... BUSH SUCKS!! Nothing good has come from him or his cabinet. His whole "Regime" thinks they rule the world. You think Dean is an out of control tyrant.... why don't you take a good look at your President? He is a simple minded "Texan" and his "leadership" is ruining our country's reputation globally. He's done nothing but hurt us and our relationships with others with is "Martyr-Like" atittude. I bet 9/11 and Osama would have been dealt with a long time ago if Bush wasn't in office. And because Bush has HORRIBLE foriegn policy, no one wants to help us. We can't and will not catch Osama alone. No one wants to help and it's because of this idiot in office. I Guarentee Osama is caught when Bush leaves office.
Also, if you think by lowering taxes it will make life easier, then you're just as much of an idiot as him. I can't wait for this so called "Leader" to be replaced. Our country is in the same position it was 15 years ago..... and I know how everyone likes to live in reverse. Everything about him and his belief's are wrong. He's, almost single handedly, ruined our natural progression as a country and world leader.
Brian
Plain and Simple... BUSH SUCKS!! Nothing good has come from him or his cabinet. His whole "Regime" thinks they rule the world. You think Dean is an out of control tyrant.... why don't you take a good look at your President? He is a simple minded "Texan" and his "leadership" is ruining our country's reputation globally. He's done nothing but hurt us and our relationships with others with is "Martyr-Like" atittude. I bet 9/11 and Osama would have been dealt with a long time ago if Bush wasn't in office. And because Bush has HORRIBLE foriegn policy, no one wants to help us. We can't and will not catch Osama alone. No one wants to help and it's because of this idiot in office. I Guarentee Osama is caught when Bush leaves office.
Also, if you think by lowering taxes it will make life easier, then you're just as much of an idiot as him. I can't wait for this so called "Leader" to be replaced. Our country is in the same position it was 15 years ago..... and I know how everyone likes to live in reverse. Everything about him and his belief's are wrong. He's, almost single handedly, ruined our natural progression as a country and world leader.
Brian
03-04-2004, 11:00 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
Originally Posted by ryanaka99cents
that's why clinton invited bin laden to the white house right, so he could have one of his ss take him out, pppphhsssttt please, bin laden had bed in breakfast and monica at lunch
Seriously... I'm not saying Clinton or Kerry is the answer. I just know Bush is the WORST we've seen a long time. And for those who think he's taken control of Terrorism..... well, what would anyone else have done? Stand there? He did what every other man would have done but prevent it from happening in the first place.
I rest my case.
Brian
03-04-2004, 11:09 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
Originally Posted by Brian_C6
Yeah, you're from Maine..... I can see the connection u have w/ Texas. LMAO!! j/k
Seriously... I'm not saying Clinton or Kerry is the answer. I just know Bush is the WORST we've seen a long time. And for those who think he's taken control of Terrorism..... well, what would anyone else have done? Stand there? He did what every other man would have done but prevent it from happening in the first place.
I rest my case.
Brian
Seriously... I'm not saying Clinton or Kerry is the answer. I just know Bush is the WORST we've seen a long time. And for those who think he's taken control of Terrorism..... well, what would anyone else have done? Stand there? He did what every other man would have done but prevent it from happening in the first place.
I rest my case.
Brian
Clinton was def not better though, Osama was the main suspect in the battleship bombing in yemen and all he did was launch 1 I repeat 1 missle at one of his camps, maybe if the clinton regime would have been a little proactive 9-11 wouldnt have happened. So none the less clinton just sat there with his thumbs up his ***.
03-04-2004, 11:17 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
Originally Posted by Brian_C6
Yeah, you're from Maine..... I can see the connection u have w/ Texas. LMAO!! j/k
Seriously... I'm not saying Clinton or Kerry is the answer. I just know Bush is the WORST we've seen a long time. And for those who think he's taken control of Terrorism..... well, what would anyone else have done? Stand there? He did what every other man would have done but prevent it from happening in the first place.
I rest my case.
Brian
Seriously... I'm not saying Clinton or Kerry is the answer. I just know Bush is the WORST we've seen a long time. And for those who think he's taken control of Terrorism..... well, what would anyone else have done? Stand there? He did what every other man would have done but prevent it from happening in the first place.
I rest my case.
Brian
yes there were some good things Clinton did in office but like with anyone human being that visits this forum or anyone you find on the street if you walk up to them and ask them who they like better Clinton/Bush they will give you their choice and the reasons why they didn't like the other. Chances are they will have more bad things to say about the one they didn't like than they will good about the one they did like. it is human nature to pick apart something you do not like vs be able to name everything you did like, good always doesn't outweigh the evil just my .02
03-04-2004, 11:18 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
Originally Posted by verticaljay
Clinton was def not better though, Osama was the main suspect in the battleship bombing in yemen and all he did was launch 1 I repeat 1 missle at one of his camps, maybe if the clinton regime would have been a little proactive 9-11 wouldnt have happened. So none the less clinton just sat there with his thumbs up his ***.
03-04-2004, 11:32 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
I agree with all points above and YOU ARE correct.... people have good / bad things to say about every President. Everyone has different opinions about what they feel is important. It's very easy to criticize being on the "outside". I think what everyone needs to realize is "WE KNOW JACKSHIT ABOUT ****!!". For all we know, Clinton bombed that pharmacy because he received intellegence Osama was in there. That is another problem with the Bush Admin..... we know too much about their next move. You gotta hand it to Clinton.... he was good with Public Relations. He kept ALOT of crap quiet.... crap we DON'T need to know about. He had private wars all over the country. He was taking care of the business. I think he's one of most successful Presidents we've seen in a long time and that's just my opinion. I know some will disgree but the 8 years he was in office, our country was doing well.
Brian
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03-04-2004, 11:37 AM
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Re: Vote Bush
Ok first off no disrespect..BUT
"Why don't you ask the Bush Administration about the National Security Plan that the Clinton Admin designed and handed over to them when he took office"
Is this the same Plan that allowed 6 attacks on the US during his tenure? Including the first attempt at WTC.
" The Clinton Admin practically handed over a detailed plan designed to specifically target Al Queda and Osama Bin Laden"
Clinton has him but didn't know what to do with him so in his usual fashion he did nothing. If there is blame for WTC then it lies with Clinton.
"How are those "Weapons of Mass Destruction" that are pouring out of Iraq?"
Big deal...that was not the only reason. Funny everyone was on board at time. It is very easy to be the Monday mornin quaterback here. The bottom line is that Saddam crapped all over the rest of the world since the first war. And in this day and age something had to be done. I ask you do you think Iraq is better off now?
"How about Osama Bin Laden.... "
He is hidding in a hole someone and Al-Qeda is just crippled. It is only a matter of time til we get him..if in fact he is still alive.
"You think Dean is an out of control tyrant.... " Tell me you don't think he was the solution
"why don't you take a good look at your President?" I do everytime I hear the negative about him...I'm still Pro-Bush
"I bet 9/11 and Osama would have been dealt with a long time ago if Bush wasn't in office"
That is a bunch of crap...Al Gore would have done nothing just like Clinton
"And because Bush has HORRIBLE foreign relations, no one wants to help us."
France, Germany and Russia....BFD
"Also, if you think by lowering taxes it will make life easier, then you're just as much of an idiot as him."
It does, will and history proves this does work. Raise taxes is the 100% wrong thing to do inorder to stimulate the economy
"Our country is in the same position it was 15 years ago....."
it is getting better
"well, what would anyone else have done? "
Ask Clinton
"He did what every other man would have done but prevent it from happening in the first place."
Insert eye rolling smiley
"Why don't you ask the Bush Administration about the National Security Plan that the Clinton Admin designed and handed over to them when he took office"
Is this the same Plan that allowed 6 attacks on the US during his tenure? Including the first attempt at WTC.
" The Clinton Admin practically handed over a detailed plan designed to specifically target Al Queda and Osama Bin Laden"
Clinton has him but didn't know what to do with him so in his usual fashion he did nothing. If there is blame for WTC then it lies with Clinton.
"How are those "Weapons of Mass Destruction" that are pouring out of Iraq?"
Big deal...that was not the only reason. Funny everyone was on board at time. It is very easy to be the Monday mornin quaterback here. The bottom line is that Saddam crapped all over the rest of the world since the first war. And in this day and age something had to be done. I ask you do you think Iraq is better off now?
"How about Osama Bin Laden.... "
He is hidding in a hole someone and Al-Qeda is just crippled. It is only a matter of time til we get him..if in fact he is still alive.
"You think Dean is an out of control tyrant.... " Tell me you don't think he was the solution
"why don't you take a good look at your President?" I do everytime I hear the negative about him...I'm still Pro-Bush
"I bet 9/11 and Osama would have been dealt with a long time ago if Bush wasn't in office"
That is a bunch of crap...Al Gore would have done nothing just like Clinton
"And because Bush has HORRIBLE foreign relations, no one wants to help us."
France, Germany and Russia....BFD
"Also, if you think by lowering taxes it will make life easier, then you're just as much of an idiot as him."
It does, will and history proves this does work. Raise taxes is the 100% wrong thing to do inorder to stimulate the economy
"Our country is in the same position it was 15 years ago....."
it is getting better
"well, what would anyone else have done? "
Ask Clinton
"He did what every other man would have done but prevent it from happening in the first place."
Insert eye rolling smiley
