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Old Dec 27, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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i put my new sik fiddys clutch in and now my bike the kick started wont engage, and when i put it in gear and hold the shifter up or down, it is still in gear like no neutral in between, it runs good and shifts throw all the gears so wats wrong anyone, help me quick before i loose any more tools to my temper
Old Dec 27, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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i also had this problem..... here is what helped me... the nut and standard head on the outside of the case...loosen the nut and tighten the screw in small increments 1/4 turn would work then tighten the nut .....i took my clutch apart 3 times before i figured this out it sucked *****
Old Dec 29, 2003 | 12:34 AM
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man i already adjusted the hell outa my clutch ifi do that screw all the way out the kickstarter goes like there no compression, all the way in it jus the same but hard to do the middle it works some times, but there is still no neutral in between gears
Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:40 AM
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You have to replace the clutch nut locking washer. I had the same problem with mine when putting the HD clutch springs in.


This is the stupid item that caused me all the problems. They are hard to re-use so best get one ahead of time.

http://www.dratv.com/lowaclnut19a.html

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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 01:42 AM
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eddie you just know it all....you should be spokes person for XRfiddy.com
Old Dec 29, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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that thing works fine on mine i crunched it back into the slot and everything do i still need a new one, cuz im about to put the bike in the shop
Old Dec 29, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by kxrider
that thing works fine on mine i crunched it back into the slot and everything do i still need a new one, cuz im about to put the bike in the shop
My old one looked fine too......... I had the same problems you described. For less than $2.00 I'd give it a try before I took it in the shop.

Also note when we installed my Kitaco HD springs they didn't fit right in there. The wouldn't allow the clutch to engage or disengage properly. We wollowed out the holes for the springs so they sat betterin there...I wish I would have taken pics to show you guys what I'm talking about.
Old Dec 30, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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hey silver surf explain more about that spring thing, cuz when i was puttin my clip back on the end of the clutch basket thing, it was pretty dame hard to put back on i had to use C clamps, and its so tight i dont see how it can work
Old Dec 30, 2003 | 12:54 PM
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My friend wadded his fiddy up the other day and the brake pedal stabbed through the engine case. We pulled it off and jbwelded it and put it back together... but now it does kinda like kxrider says. It rides fine, but there isnt a neutral between the gears anymore. If you shift from first to second and hold the shifter up, it still goes straight into gear. What the hell did we do wrong when putting the case back on?
Old Dec 30, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by kxrider
hey silver surf explain more about that spring thing, cuz when i was puttin my clip back on the end of the clutch basket thing, it was pretty dame hard to put back on i had to use C clamps, and its so tight i dont see how it can work

I'll try to explain it. When you put the HD springs in there is no groove for them to sit in and its just too tight when you put it together. They distort and slide sideways...the grooves you make in the metal basket will keep them sitting upright.We used a grinder with a round bit to make 3 1/2 mm impressions or divits for the springs to sit in. The are the exact width of the springs so they sit in these gooves perfectly.

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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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silver surfer just take your engine apart and snap some pics, ya know you want to! i still haven't installed my springs yet, i don't know if they're kitaco but i got'em from twobros. here's the pdf for the install, maybe you could use that to help explain... http://www.twobros.com/Cust_Service/...structions.pdf
i still have no idea what you're talking about, but haven't done the install yet either. are the grooves that you cut full circles, for the spring to seat into? (four total i'd guess).
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Old Dec 30, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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thanks but i went to the local honda shop today and made friends with some dude and he took my bike home wiht him and he said if i give him 20 bucks he will fix it, and he knows his **** to cuz he gots one bad fiddy, and he does everyone elses work for free if they jus let him keep the stock parts, ill tell yall what it was,


and jb weld guy, lol, try adjusting the bolt on the outside of the case
Old Dec 30, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by potential
[B are the grooves that you cut full circles, for the spring to seat into?



YES
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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ok silver i'm pretty sure i get it now, i'll have to check it out once i take mine apart.
and kx i think lb3 was saying he jbwelded a crack in his right case cover, but didn't put it back together correctly.
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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i got mine back today my springs were not sittin right, and i over tightend the main bolt and crushed some other lil peice of crap usless part, lol, but i gave it to a dude at honda shop and he took it home and fixed it for 20 bucks so its all good thanks anyway everyoen, i was goin to ttry all ur ideas but for 20 bucks u cant beat that
Old Dec 31, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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well you asked him what he did right? i'd be interesting to hear esp. if it's something different than what's been said already.
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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well the first thing you are doing wrong is over tighting the nut i took mine off second these fifffftys dont need cluchies if you want it to be really tricked up then i wold suggest puting a car batteriey on the back seat and attaching a electronico drill to the cluth when you want to engage it touch the wires together
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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whatever dood that's some useless f*ckin input. hoglet's stuntlife's newest jr. post *****!
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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hm he said the springs were not sittin right, and i had over tightend the lock bolt thingy and crushed some lil thing or somthin like that, as for the car battery are you serious thats like the dumbest thign ever
Old Jan 6, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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thanks kx i'm gonna install the springs in the next day or two, and i got an inch-pound torque wrench to be precise, so hopefully there won't be any problems. do you know what he did to make the spring seat properly? i'm wondering if its something different than what silver did.
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