Ordered the midwest stunters 12 o clock bar got it in mail today ...looks to me made very poorly. The welds dont look the best and the two bars that go to the frame are crooked....Now my question is why did my frame bend every time i went into a 12 o clock..It came with no directions so i dont know if i am supposed to add any braces....well why did my frame bend??????Do you think i can get money back

 

did u hit the bar too hard..???
i looped it once in an endo and it bent the sub..

 

on my 50 i had a 12 bar welded on and had to put reinforcements to the main part of the frame to keep it from but when i wanted to take it off it ruined my subframe

 

so whats the 12 o clock bar to buy???
are there any bolt on ones with enough bracing to be sufficient not to bend the sub?

 

tried to remount the 12 bar differntly..........BROKE FRAME....my advice to all is dont buy this bar..on the website it says it comes with directions and it didnt...going to get camera now and will post pics of frame and poor quality of the bar

 

i dont think theres any bar out there thats gonna hold all that weight over and over, i made my own bar, VERY strong, it eventually broke my frame, so i just welded 2 bars from the mainframe and thats my new subframe, no more 12 bars for me, they just dont hold up, thats my 2 cents anyways, YOUR FRAME WILL BREAK

heres an old school pic back when i was rockin the bar, A1A daytona

 

Here is what I did to solve the bending problem. Apes all day no bends at all, hit 12's as hard as I want!

 

Scooter Trash what? Looks like Matt Dedes has apes on lock.....thats what they do....