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Old Jun 6, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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i got bored and had about 20 minutes of me warming up the other day so i figured i would put a little clip together. i ran out of tape though before i was warmed up so this is all i got

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR5FPBbzX18

i need advice on how to not fight circles so ******* bad lol
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 06:49 PM
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Sweet. Lookin good.
Old Jun 6, 2008 | 08:09 PM
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Looking good surely got a different approach but seems to be working just takes time man. Keep at it.
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 12:15 AM
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Sweet. Lookin good.
thanks bro

Looking good surely got a different approach but seems to be working just takes time man. Keep at it.
yea, it seems like its the only way i can get it to turn consistently. but i look like im having a seizure while holdin onto the bike
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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HOLY **** DUDE!?!?!

We haven't rode together in a while huh?!

Lookin REAL good.... **** YEA!!!!!

I seriously haven't seen anybody progress as fast as you have. Your doin really really ******* good bro. Holy crap. Ok.... exactly how many months have you been on a big bike??????

Here's my input:

1st off, run at least 18lbs in the rear... more if possible. Preferrably 25-30. I know that you've learned the correct way by just endlessly riding around seeing what the bike does and how to correct it... so if you have been running low pressure, pump it up and do the same thing for a couple hrs and then work into the circles again. Higher pressure will be much easier to keep going, rather than fighting the low pressure.

If you're already at 20 or above then add a few and keep it up.

Instead of using your body to pull it down into the circle when it wants to highside out, use your arms more to push the bike down into the circle and stand straight up (or even toward the outside) rather than leaning in.

Lean in a lil to get the initial dip, then quickly lean out while counter steering (turn bars to the right) and push the bike down and in.... using your right hand/arm to shove the bike down into the circle.

When I was learning them (and now still after long circle sessions), my right forearm gets very sore from using it so much to control ss circles to the left.

And remember.... gas gas gas gas gas!!! Try to concentrate on using as little brake as possible, and just blip when the front end goes down (at least that's how I do em).

Good work buddy.
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 01:24 AM
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I seriously haven't seen anybody progress as fast as you have. Your doin really really ******* good bro. Holy crap. Ok.... exactly how many months have you been on a big bike??????
haha thanks man. i started clutchin up wheelies last november with you in the ****** rain and snow. then got in the car accident a week after i started learning and i was stuck on the couch till the end of febuary...

im gonna try pumpin up the tire to 25, im at 20 or so right now, but ill give it a shot... definitely hit me up to session sunday night. i got the sweet superlong coaster spot haha
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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should i idle back down? im only at like low 2000's... its just off idle really so it doesnt bog lol
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 01:33 AM
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Lookin good dude!! I know we are sharing the frustation of struggling to control the bike!! Keep at it and post a another clip up soon!!
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ill have a vid from this weekend hopefully. just put a screw in the on/off switch and im gonna try some new ****. and i gotta get some other stuff on tape that i havent yet. frog to ground right back to frog. no handed flamingo. frog to rl circles. maybe some big jumps if the weather isnt too ****** hot
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Originally Posted by xXxNO LOVExXx
ill have a vid from this weekend hopefully. just put a screw in the on/off switch and im gonna try some new ****. and i gotta get some other stuff on tape that i havent yet. frog to ground right back to frog. no handed flamingo. frog to rl circles. maybe some big jumps if the weather isnt too ****** hot
cool dude!! ill try and do the same.. too bad your problem is weather is too hot.. my problem is weather is too cold...
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Re: circle progression clip

Originally Posted by xXxNO LOVExXx
i got the sweet superlong coaster spot haha
canton spot? ehhh.... not bad. I kinda like it there.

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should i idle back down? im only at like low 2000's... its just off idle really so it doesnt bog lol
All personal preference..... I like about 2700-3000 now.... used to be in love w/ 3800-4000rpms.

I'd have to think that lower idle would be harder to learn initially.

The higher idle, the more brake you have to use, the faster the circle and the easier it is to stall..... but at the same time the less gass you have to input, hence less to think about besides brake and body input.

Try both and use what works for you.


I change it up sometimes just for fun or something different..... circles at stock idle are sort of fun, but hella hard to do smoothly and for any extended time. Extra high idle are fun as hell too... leads to faster wider ones. :YEAH I need alot more practice w/ those myself.
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 02:31 AM
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ever since the day you gave me **** for takin up the slack on the handbrake so that it was draggin a little, ive been turnin the idle lower and lower lol. it just forced me to learn really good throttle control, it even helped my 2nd and 3rg gear stuff. im definitely thamooooove with it now haha! plus no handed seat standers are a bitch for me with the idle that high lol

different canton spot, just as long and better pavement. secret spot haha
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Re: circle progression clip

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haha thanks man. i started clutchin up wheelies last november with you in the ****** rain and snow. then got in the car accident a week after i started learning and i was stuck on the couch till the end of febuary...

im gonna try pumpin up the tire to 25, im at 20 or so right now, but ill give it a shot... definitely hit me up to session sunday night. i got the sweet superlong coaster spot haha
************. This just confirms that I suck Congrats on the quick progress homie. Keep it up.
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 03:31 AM
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i have alot of time to practice man... business has been really slow so ive just been ridin alot. cant say im not committed too it. i ride unless its literally downpouring out. its my life
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 07:59 AM
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Re: circle progression clip

Originally Posted by xXxNO LOVExXx
ill have a vid from this weekend hopefully. just put a screw in the on/off switch and im gonna try some new ****. and i gotta get some other stuff on tape that i havent yet. frog to ground right back to frog. no handed flamingo. frog to rl circles. maybe some big jumps if the weather isnt too ****** hot
No handed flamingo I wanna see that on video :YEAH
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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wow you did get them closer. now i need to lock down my combos on the dirt bike then start working on circles.

i think its time i get that hand brake on the dirt bike.
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 09:57 AM
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+1 on everything KJ said. Just keep doing them and you'll be killing them in no time. I was were you are 4 weeks ago and now I'm all gas gas gas. Once you start using the gas you'll love it. Just dip it in and gas out of it.
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Originally Posted by Vern
No handed flamingo I wanna see that on video :YEAH
il definitely get a vid of that if i can. i was tryin to get some footage last night but my buddy crashed the bike and cracked the stator cover lol...
Old Jun 7, 2008 | 01:45 PM
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wow you did get them closer. now i need to lock down my combos on the dirt bike then start working on circles.

i think its time i get that hand brake on the dirt bike.
that video was shot monday, and i rode with you for 6 hours on sunday... how did you not see me ridin?

and i rode alot better on sunday than in that clip cause i was actually warmed up lol
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+1 on everything KJ said. Just keep doing them and you'll be killing them in no time. I was were you are 4 weeks ago and now I'm all gas gas gas. Once you start using the gas you'll love it. Just dip it in and gas out of it.
thanks man, im gonna work on that later today once this heat dies down a little bit... i am on and off the gas alot, just cant really hear it cause im tryin to keep it smooth



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