kleen air on my 636-good idea! - Page 5

287ridah · 03-20-2007, 06:13 PM

After cutting into pieces (about 5) a 1/2" thick by 1inch by 1/2" oil sponge then pushing them into the Kleen line, it still smoked when I merked it to far back the other day. I've gotten better at not bringing it back to far and keeping it in BP but wonder if I wanted to ever drag the bar that it would smoke like crazy again. This mod still works great but If your dragging at all watch out. This is my experience so maybe others are different.

Did yours feel any different Roger??? Regarding the smooth power N such??

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old man roger · 03-20-2007, 06:21 PM

yes the power down low is better but i parked mine on the bar and didn' even get a puff of smoke i even left it there for a few seconds to see if it would smoke.....

do you know what that box is i posted a link on page 4 a couple posts back

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:30 PM

03+ R6
u just block off the valve cover ports once u flip the reed valves, then urun a hose from the crank case arround the airbox back to the spot its suppose to go onto the air box.

287ridah · 03-20-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

yes the power down low is better but i parked mine on the bar and didn' even get a puff of smoke i even left it there for a few seconds to see if it would smoke.....

do you know what that box is i posted a link on page 4 a couple posts back

wow must be nice
Do you have your bar near stock tail or further>????
It looks like a sensor plug for vac or some other connection for FI. I can check my online manual when i get home tonight though.

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 06:36 PM

yea i have a home made round bar that comes out the tail light hole no cutting but it is way past 12 so i don't know why yours smokes so much...

and yes please check and tell me what this box does ,thanks

287ridah · 03-20-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

yea i have a home made round bar that comes out the tail light hole no cutting but it is way past 12 so i don't know why yours smokes so much...

and yes please check and tell me what this box does ,thanks

No problem..

Well mine is about 1inch and 1/2 to 2inch shorter then the stock tail so maybe thats why.

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 06:53 PM

yea may be but i would think mine would smoke like yours because when it's on the bar it is in the perfect position for oil to spill out that breather

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

yea may be but i would think mine would smoke like yours because when it's on the bar it is in the perfect position for oil to spill out that breather

shows what you know!

T-NECK · 03-20-2007, 06:56 PM

IM lost. someone come do this friggin mod to my bike...lol

287ridah · 03-20-2007, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

yea may be but i would think mine would smoke like yours because when it's on the bar it is in the perfect position for oil to spill out that breather

did you put any oil sponges in the line ?????

Damn your lucky, im not sure how i could have messed this up. Interesting......

Ryan S · 03-20-2007, 07:02 PM

i've heard good and bad from this mod, the thing that worries me is there is no outside ventalation to your crank case, resulting to pressure build up and seals blowing out....i just ran a long as tube up and around the radiator and back into the air box...i ran pcv valves for the longest time, they still leaked and created pressure in my crank case resulting in a blown valve cover gasket....

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 07:04 PM

no sponges.....

t it is so well drawn out for you on the first page of this thread it's easy

it's the second link down

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

i've heard good and bad from this mod, the thing that worries me is there is no outside ventalation to your crank case, resulting to pressure build up and seals blowing out....i just ran a long as tube up and around the radiator and back into the air box...i ran pcv valves for the longest time, they still leaked and created pressure in my crank case resulting in a blown valve cover gasket....

yeah that why u don't hose clamp them and dont make it air tight.

T-NECK · 03-20-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

no sponges.....

t it is so well drawn out for you on the first page of this thread it's easy

it's the second link down

Yeah I looked at the pics. but i cant see what all the other little ass hoses are doing, so I quit.

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

i've heard good and bad from this mod, the thing that worries me is there is no outside ventalation to your crank case, resulting to pressure build up and seals blowing out....i just ran a long as tube up and around the radiator and back into the air box...i ran pcv valves for the longest time, they still leaked and created pressure in my crank case resulting in a blown valve cover gasket....

your valve cover leaks for some other reason because this mod creates a vaccum in the gear box not pressure

when done right the exhaust pulls a vaccum on the crank case not pressure

it works like an evacuation system on a drag car

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by T-NECK

Yeah I looked at the pics. but i cant see what all the other little ass hoses are doing, so I quit.

if the vaccum lines are intimidating you then just leave them all hooked up except the one that goes to the t in the middle of your valve cover and just plug that one and your done

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 07:12 PM

roger, bikes have blow by... it comes out the crankcase breath and goes into the airbox.

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

roger, bikes have blow by... it comes out the crankcase breath and goes into the airbox.

yea and you mean what by this statement

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 07:17 PM

that blow by pressure @15k rpm can/will push out your valve cover gasket and or stator cover gasket etc..

Blow by pressure escapes through the Crank case breather into the airbox... when u rout it back into the valve cover, your now creating a engine balloon

Hawco · 03-20-2007, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

03+ R6
u just block off the valve cover ports once u flip the reed valves, then urun a hose from the crank case arround the airbox back to the spot its suppose to go onto the air box.

well i guess that doesn't help increase HP if the hot air still gets back to the airbox, but it would be a longer route for oil yea and help for sure.i don't get why you'd fuck with the reeds then ?

i thought the point was to get the oil that comes up the crankcase vent into the exhaust so it blows on out

03-20-2007, 06:21 PM	#82
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 70,300	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! yes the power down low is better but i parked mine on the bar and didn' even get a puff of smoke i even left it there for a few seconds to see if it would smoke..... do you know what that box is i posted a link on page 4 a couple posts back

03-20-2007, 06:30 PM	#83
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! 03+ R6 u just block off the valve cover ports once u flip the reed valves, then urun a hose from the crank case arround the airbox back to the spot its suppose to go onto the air box. __________________ .

03-20-2007, 06:36 PM	#85
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 70,300	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! yea i have a home made round bar that comes out the tail light hole no cutting but it is way past 12 so i don't know why yours smokes so much... and yes please check and tell me what this box does ,thanks

03-20-2007, 06:53 PM	#87
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 70,300	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! yea may be but i would think mine would smoke like yours because when it's on the bar it is in the perfect position for oil to spill out that breather

03-20-2007, 06:56 PM	#89
T-NECK Hate Hate Hate! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: O-Town, FL Age: 27 Bike: 07' R6s, 02' 954 Gender: Male Posts: 9,064	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! IM lost. someone come do this friggin mod to my bike...lol

03-20-2007, 07:02 PM	#91
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03-20-2007, 07:04 PM	#92
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 70,300	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! no sponges..... t it is so well drawn out for you on the first page of this thread it's easy it's the second link down

03-20-2007, 07:12 PM	#97
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! roger, bikes have blow by... it comes out the crankcase breath and goes into the airbox. __________________ .

03-20-2007, 07:17 PM	#99
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! that blow by pressure @15k rpm can/will push out your valve cover gasket and or stator cover gasket etc.. Blow by pressure escapes through the Crank case breather into the airbox... when u rout it back into the valve cover, your now creating a engine balloon __________________ .