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Old 03-05-2009, 12:28 PM
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I bought a gsxr 1000 for my first bike because of an awsome deal. I really want to get into stunting and everyone here pretty much says you can't stunt a 1000 and almost all the pro's ride a 600. Thinking of selling my bike for a 600 but can anyone tell why it's so hard to stunt. As I recall almost everything is the same besides a bigger engine and a little more weight. Is there something I am missing? If any 1000 stunters out there, any advice on what size sprocket is good for a 1000. I've looked on here and most say about +7 to about +10 for a 600 but what about people on 1000. Most advice I can find to stunt are for 600's so I'm about to say screw it and trade mine in if there really is that big of a difference. thanks...
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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I bought a gsxr 1000 for my first bike because of an awsome deal. I really want to get into stunting and everyone here pretty much says you can't stunt a 1000 and almost all the pro's ride a 600. Thinking of selling my bike for a 600 but can anyone tell why it's so hard to stunt. As I recall almost everything is the same besides a bigger engine and a little more weight. Is there something I am missing? If any 1000 stunters out there, any advice on what size sprocket is good for a 1000. I've looked on here and most say about +7 to about +10 for a 600 but what about people on 1000. Most advice I can find to stunt are for 600's so I'm about to say screw it and trade mine in if there really is that big of a difference. thanks...
theres no such thing as a bike that cant be stunted. just some bikes are better suited for it. a liter bike is number 1 very expensive and expensive to repair when it breaks. all the extra power that a liter bike has makes it a little more difficult to control. the weight isnt really that much of a factor as theres usually only about 20lbs or so diff in the weight of most 600s and 1000s. a 600 is just a very friendly bike and alot more forgiving than a 1000. you will also find it more difficult to find stunt parts for liter bikes compared to 600s. in the long run you will progress much faster and your wallet wont suffer as bad if you sell ur liter bike and get a 600.
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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theres no such thing as a bike that cant be stunted. just some bikes are better suited for it. a liter bike is number 1 very expensive and expensive to repair when it breaks. all the extra power that a liter bike has makes it a little more difficult to control. the weight isnt really that much of a factor as theres usually only about 20lbs or so diff in the weight of most 600s and 1000s. a 600 is just a very friendly bike and alot more forgiving than a 1000. you will also find it more difficult to find stunt parts for liter bikes compared to 600s. in the long run you will progress much faster and your wallet wont suffer as bad if you sell ur liter bike and get a 600.
Listen to the man. He's right on every point. There is a reason why every pro stunts a 600.
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+1 ^^^^^ all excelant advice!!!!!!!
any bike can and has been stunted and the throttle control will be much more touchy and less forgiving. if your learning you don't want to make it harder or more exspensive for yourself.

it wouldnt be a bad idea if you got a cheap 900rr, 929, or something that older to learn on in the lot. if its for the lot only and youve never stunted before your best bet is to look for a good deal on a f4i or get a cheap f4 or 900rr, rather than destroy a nice minty one. try to get one thats already stunted out, it will save you lots of $$$. then get a nicer and newer bike once your threw the learning curve.

or if you want to ride on the street with it and have a stunt worthy pimp *** bike..... sdfkillz is selling his 636 for a good price

636 is sick!!!!!! for killing the street and the lot!!!!! (i love mine!!!!)
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Re: 600 vs 1000

i think a stock 600cc is harder to wheelie than a stock say 929 or 954 or 1000 for somebody that has no clue as to how the bike will react
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Re: 600 vs 1000

i think one of the best options to get started is what i did............

get a nice fiddy stunter play on that for a while and get some basic throttle and brake control down.

once your consitant with the basics on the fiddy move to a supermoto or dirt bike with street tires and a HB. and get used to a handbrake and clutch at the same time and get used to more power and more tricks.

then move to a real stunt bike and realize that its way more difficult (whether its a 600, 900, or 1000), but at least you have some of the basics already down and worked your way up. it will make the learning curve easier.
at least for lot only stunting

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Re: 600 vs 1000

liter bikes are ******* awesome for street rush,and gearing -1 + 2,600 ccm bikes are for tehnical stuff,lots,but you can use it on the street,same you can ride 1000 at the spot,and before 4-5 y 80% of stuntbikes was literbikes like 929...
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Its alot safer to learn on a 600. Doing power wheelies on a gsxr1000 or say a 1000rr in first you will wreck at 100ish instead of 35.
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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i bought a gsxr 1000 for my first bike because of an awsome deal. i really want to get into stunting and everyone here pretty much says you can't stunt a 1000 and almost all the pro's ride a 600. Thinking of selling my bike for a 600 but can anyone tell why it's so hard to stunt. as i recall almost everything is the same besides a bigger engine and a little more weight. Is there something i am missing? If any 1000 stunters out there, any advice on what size sprocket is good for a 1000. I've looked on here and most say about +7 to about +10 for a 600 but what about people on 1000. Most advice i can find to stunt are for 600's so i'm about to say screw it and trade mine in if there really is that big of a difference. Thanks...
:lmao: yea that was a great idea a 1000cc bike for your first bike. dont make a mistake or its gonna cost you some serious pain and cash.
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Re: 600 vs 1000

thanks for all the replies... I've had the bike over a year now and pretty good with wheelies over 50mph but want to start doing slower ones for the lot and thats why I want to change out sprockets. Any advice on how much to change up to? Is up 7 to much on a liter bike? I know up 7 to about 10 is what 600's do but what's too much on a liter bike? I'll try and sell my bike but right now with the economy it might take a while so for now there's no way I'll just sit around and watch on the side lines not stunting. So any advice on sprockets would help out a lot... thanks guys
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Re: 600 vs 1000

just try one down 2 up. I use to just use one down for a bit and liked it alot. you can get a 1 down 2 up kit for like 80bucks and use your stock chain, not gonna slow your wheelies down but might help to make you feel more comfortable trying to,..
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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:lmao: yea that was a great idea a 1000cc bike for your first bike. dont make a mistake or its gonna cost you some serious pain and cash.

why is it a big deal to buy a liter bike for your first bike?
I did and dont regret it at all, only think i would have regreted was getting a 600 because after starting on a 1000 i could never go back......just speaking of canyons and highway.......stunting of course 636 only
but differnce between a 600 and 1000 killing you is none, they both will do a good job..........hate comments bashin on 1000 for first bike, they only do what you tell them to do thus being machines
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whatever you do don't buy a brand new R1 with a 60 sprocket....haha! that picture with that sprocket was ******* crazy funny
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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thanks for all the replies... I've had the bike over a year now and pretty good with wheelies over 50mph but want to start doing slower ones for the lot and thats why I want to change out sprockets. Any advice on how much to change up to? Is up 7 to much on a liter bike? I know up 7 to about 10 is what 600's do but what's too much on a liter bike? I'll try and sell my bike but right now with the economy it might take a while so for now there's no way I'll just sit around and watch on the side lines not stunting. So any advice on sprockets would help out a lot... thanks guys
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whatever you do don't buy a brand new R1 with a 60 sprocket....haha! that picture with that sprocket was ******* crazy funny

72 tooth! haha and that **** taught mad throttle control cause it was so snappy! lol
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haha!!! 72 tooth..that is ******* funny. yeah I got off the 954 and started getting into my new f4i and I was like what the **** I jerked the throttle and didn't crash it is wierd getting onto a 600, but I love this thing im selling my 954. Only thing is stoppies were like my only decent trick and I can't get them on my f4i yet.
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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why is it a big deal to buy a liter bike for your first bike?
I did and dont regret it at all, only think i would have regreted was getting a 600 because after starting on a 1000 i could never go back......just speaking of canyons and highway.......stunting of course 636 only
but differnce between a 600 and 1000 killing you is none, they both will do a good job..........hate comments bashin on 1000 for first bike, they only do what you tell them to do thus being machines
first time sutin spooks a new rider on a 1k and they yank the throttle. good for you bro your one of how many who bought a 1k and didnt **** themselves up. not to mention the cost of insurance on a 1k vs. a 600. amongst other ****.
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get a gsxR 600-750 and a 1000 ALL IN ONE!!!!

ask d-bag, formely known as the YUUUUTTT UGHHHH!!! guy
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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first time sutin spooks a new rider on a 1k and they yank the throttle. good for you bro your one of how many who bought a 1k and didnt **** themselves up. not to mention the cost of insurance on a 1k vs. a 600. amongst other ****.
yank a 1000 yank a 600 same ****
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Re: 600 vs 1000

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yank a 1000 yank a 600 same ****
not exactly. i remember when my brother brought home his 929 we were riding down the street and he jumped on it real hard in 2nd gear and that thing got headshake and he almost wrecked lol, jump on any 600 like that and it wont happen like that. a 1000 demands alot more respect than a 600. but in general yes if you really dont know what youre doing any bike is dangerous for you.
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