nick_villan

hey i was wondering if i should pic up one of these things to learn how to stunt or is a v strom good enough ( i know that the best choice but it was free )

nyRocketkid

definatly get a fiddy. Eather a xr50 or crf50. They will help you learn ballence point, rear brake controll, and also help you learn to slow down wheelies. And if you put a peg on the back, like the ones fron www.50stunt.com it will also help you get comfortable with the staggered foot position. I was doing staggered standups over 1/4 mile smoothly my 4th day on my 1st rocket cause I got good on my 50 first. Probably the best money I've spent in a while.
It will also help you to get the basics of being smooth on the throttle.

nick_villan

fiddys dont have gear right? can you do as many stunts on them as an crf 100?

randomjibrish

u can do everything plus...and they have 3 gears and an auto clutch, its worth it....i got good on it and ive done smooth wheelies plus combos on every other bike ive rode

nyRocketkid

ya a 50 has 3 gears with no clutch. a crf100 has 5 gears with a clutch. I learned how to wheelie and clutch up on my xr100 when I was 11. I didn't ride for along time and I bought a 50 to get back into it.
What I like about the xr/crf100 is you can learn how to clutch up on that. Also you can learn the technique of bounce/clutch up for weaker bikes.
This is when you bounce down on your bike and when the forks are compressed you clutch up and the shocks help push you up. On alot of weaker bikes you need this technique to get some bikes up.
My old F2 stock wouldn't come up in second with just clutch, but with a bounce/cluch up I had no problems getting second up at all.
A 100 will be better but a 50 will be damn good too.
Also a xr/crf 80 , & 150 are good too and both have a clutch. A crf150 actually has front disk brakes that will be alot better for endos.

Also the rear pegs for the 50 from www.50stunt.com also fit on the xr/crf100 perfect. The kickstand is alittle too long and will need to be removed though, if you use the pegs.
50stunt is also going to be making stunt parts for the xr/crf 100 soon too. Rear pegs are pimp on both bikes. And help you get used to staggered foot position.
50stunt is going to carry front & rear pegs, sprockets, a shorter kickstand for the pegs, and a 12 bar or round bar.

nick_villan

are the chinees fiddys any good?

Joker

No, they are garbage

nyRocketkid

+991 bagilion. china fiddys are garbage. the only 50's worth buying are hondas. xr50, crf50, or even the z50. china fiddys can't take abuse and are hard if not impossible to get replacment parts for. theres people beating their honda 50s with the original oil for years with no problems. and if you change the oil like I did in mine its like .6 of a quart. if you have any questions about honda 50's pm me. I know alot about them & can give you alot of advice if you need it.

noxen

im finding it tough as **** to wheelie a 50..i seem to be the only one though

-GoBLIN-

dude my 110, you dont have to try to wheelie.... We were trying to do a burnout, and it kept poppin up, so i sat on the tank and my buddy on the bars, and it lifted us both up.

nyRocketkid

Nope alot of people have trouble learning on the 50. It has alot smaller ballence point than a bigger bike, and alot less power. I think it's 10x easier to wheelie a rocket but 100x mre dangerous. A rear peg helpes alot too. Along with a big bar kit. www.50stunt.com has alot of sweet stuff.
It takes alot of practice.