FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Old 01-26-2004, 01:28 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Black Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cape muthafukin Cod, BITCH
Age: 37
Posts: 1,379
Black Rob can only hope to improve
FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Ok, heres the deal. I bought a "salvaged" bike (with no title) off a guy figuring I could rebuild it with a titled salvaged frame cheap. Well as it turns out, this is an insurance job bike. To put it on the road is near impossible. My state, Massachusetts requires a title and VIN for everything. If I rebuild a "salvaged" bike, I need reciepts and VIN #'s of the the bikes the parts came off of. That goes for plastics to motor. Am i screwed, or has anyone been able to beat the system. I was thinking:


1. Buy just a clean title off someone who's stunting only and re-stamp my bike with their vin's? Now it's technically "their old bike". They can keep "just stunting" and I get to register mine.

2. Buy a clean frame/title and do the complete swap. (Lots of $$$)

3. Ditch the bike, sell as a stunt/track/parts bike only.

**Oh yeah, it's a 2003 Yamaha R6. Minor damage. Please let me know how I can get around this crap. Thanks...
Black Rob is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 01:44 AM
  #2  
I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife!
 
Spark~R.O.C.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: METRO D.C.
Age: 37
Posts: 1,231
Spark~R.O.C. is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

keep your mouth shut and part it out.
Spark~R.O.C. is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 01:58 AM
  #3  
.
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: around
Age: 34
Posts: 6,597
covertwar is a decent person
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Two cheap options.

1. Part it out

2. Put in in a pickup truck or trailer and go stunt it off the road

Swapping frames would run you close to $2000 for just an '03 frame............if you can find one. And that's assuming all the parts on your bike are in great condition to swap over to the new frame.
covertwar is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 02:13 AM
  #4  
...
 
DLISH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Denver, ColoRADo
Posts: 16,296
DLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to behold
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

yamahas are cheap...ebay, buy a cln titled frame
DLISH is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 02:17 AM
  #5  
...
 
DLISH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Denver, ColoRADo
Posts: 16,296
DLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to beholdDLISH is a splendid one to behold
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

or find a friend in another state that isnt as strict to rebuild it, title in that state,if there are #'s on the frame, find someone to run them, if not get a BOS and start getting reciepts
DLISH is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 02:17 AM
  #6  
I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife!
 
HOLDINGITBIG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: EVERYWHERE
Posts: 2,903
HOLDINGITBIG will become famous soon enoughHOLDINGITBIG will become famous soon enough
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

yeah ... if you wanna get it on the road you gotta get either a clean frame, or at leat get some clean numbers and stamp them into the frame ....


and then you can enjoy your cheesecake
HOLDINGITBIG is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 11:44 AM
  #7  
Stunlife's #1 Gimp!
 
Shaggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Aurora, Illinois
Posts: 1,902
Shaggy is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

I know with collector car there is a scam going on and services to help you out.

For example, my buddy buys, fixes and re-sells vintage Corvettes. If he finds a nice one with a salvage title, he uses different "Title Services". What they do is they title the car in a state that doesn't have salvage titles (there are a few of them out there) so they get a normal title.....then re-titles it back to him in Illinois. Since he is re-titling the car with a normal title it get it's new title without being salvage, thus making the car worth a butt load more. It should work with bikes too. Look in the auto trader or online for "Title Services" and talk to them, it may cost a couple hundo but you should be legal afterwards. They provide a legal way of doing something totally illegal,

Try a place like this:
http://www.titlesunlimitedinc.com/

It is illegal and some companies may not do it, just talk to them though and tell them what you want to do.
Shaggy is offline  
Old 01-26-2004, 11:48 AM
  #8  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Black Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cape muthafukin Cod, BITCH
Age: 37
Posts: 1,379
Black Rob can only hope to improve
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

wow, thanks man...
Black Rob is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 10:07 AM
  #9  
POS
Registered User
 
POS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: South shore
Posts: 729
POS is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Yo do you still got this bike? Hmm my buddy got an 03 "salvage" R6 last night...Wonder if it's the same bike? Hit me up on aim thug
POS is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 02:15 PM
  #10  
.
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: around
Age: 34
Posts: 6,597
covertwar is a decent person
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Not illegal at all, if you transfer the title to them and they have a lega residence in that state, and then they "sell" it back to you, no problem at all!
covertwar is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 04:26 PM
  #11  
Gas'er!!
 
TEACH C6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: from the East to the West
Age: 41
Posts: 6,272
TEACH C6 will become famous soon enough
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

cleaning a title is possible, but if you ever put insurance on it, it WILL come back as salvaged-i just had this happen to me on a bike that someone stole from me. i bought it 'clean' title (on stuntlife too), registered it (came back clean title), then had it stolen and when my ins. co ran the history, they found out it was salvaged and i only got 70% of the book value on it.

as far as restamping your frame...that is a nono, it is illegal and MA state pd is onto the game...there are tons of idiots on this board riding around with bad numbers, no numbers, and stamped numbers--go for it if you want, but it IS a risk i personally am not willing to take....although yamaha has some funny ways of buying new frames and stuff like that.

as for receipts, the way around that is to:
A: find a small shop you know who will give you receipts for all the parts you need (you WILL need to make the bike just about minty to get it salvaged insepected in MA)

B: call up Argos and see if they can help you

C: fix it up a bit, get it registered and titled in another state, and then get it back.

mass is a biotch to get salvaged inspected, even NH is becoming a pain...friendly, close by states include Vermont....to get a salvage inspect you need to make the bike virtually mint or they wont consider it finished. if you bought the bike with no title, you may have been screwed, you still NEED that title whether it is salvaged or clean...if you dont have it then you may have a stolen bike-if your friend claimed it or sold the title...good luck, be smart.

Teach
TEACH C6 is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 11:42 PM
  #12  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Black Rob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cape muthafukin Cod, BITCH
Age: 37
Posts: 1,379
Black Rob can only hope to improve
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Teach, I appreciate that. Anyways, it turns out the guy didn't feel like paying for it anymore, so it went "missing". Looks like I have to buy another clean frame and title, or put it in my pickup to beat on it...
Black Rob is offline  
Old 01-27-2004, 11:45 PM
  #13  
.
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: around
Age: 34
Posts: 6,597
covertwar is a decent person
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Search eGayMotors, frames pop up on there from time to time, I know for a fact that right now there are two complete sets of bodywork for your bike on eGayMotors as we speak, I'm always browsing the motorcycle part, just check it like once a week and you won't miss anything...
covertwar is offline  
Old 01-28-2004, 12:02 AM
  #14  
I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife!
 
Outkast Rafe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Orleans
Age: 36
Posts: 2,842
Outkast Rafe is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Originally Posted by Spark~R.O.C.
keep your mouth shut and part it out.
haha


here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2456379113
get this you will be straight
Outkast Rafe is offline  
Old 01-28-2004, 12:05 AM
  #15  
.
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: around
Age: 34
Posts: 6,597
covertwar is a decent person
Re: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...

Originally Posted by movistargixxer6
haha


here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2456379113
get this you will be straight
Lucky bastard you better grab that up
covertwar is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SilverOrange
Newbie Welcome Center
0
05-19-2013 01:35 AM
racinghart
Stunt Discussion
25
05-14-2007 08:34 AM
Big T's&nice A
Scooter Trash
5
04-25-2006 04:47 PM
Droptop
All Odds Beaten A.O.B.
12
12-08-2004 02:27 PM
MrGixxer600
Florida
13
12-12-2003 09:04 AM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: FRAME/TITLE/VIN # question...


Contact Us - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.