Do stunters need heavy-duty footpegs? - Open Forum

crazeinc · 11-27-2002, 04:14 PM

I keep reading about how these pegs are breaking off.

My buddy's dad has a metal fabrication shop that could produce beefy units without much problem. If there's a need for them, I could talk to him about it. I was reading elsewhere that the aftermarket rear sets are weaker and made for racing.

Let me know.

PeteK9 · 11-27-2002, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by crazeinc
I keep reading about how these pegs are breaking off.

My buddy's dad has a metal fabrication shop that could produce beefy units without much problem. If there's a need for them, I could talk to him about it. I was reading elsewhere that the aftermarket rear sets are weaker and made for racing.

Let me know.

I need some 929 rear sets that can take some abuse, whata ya got?

Dirty B · 11-27-2002, 09:13 PM

If you could come up with something at a reasonable price, I'm sure many would be interested in it. If you're gonna do it, go ahead and make stronger rearsets too. Also, the most common bike is a 900RR so you should probably start making the parts for them

11-27-2002, 11:00 PM

guys i hate to bring up a bad spot but if we put stronger rearsets, brackets on our bikes we are doing this to prevent breakage during what? If its a peg break during astand up wheelie like mentioned in another thread, the stronger bracket wont help. Im not positive in thecases mentioned on this site, but in the case of my buddies R1 it was not the bracket but the bolt that went through the peg and attached it to the bracket that snapped. (and from my understanding from a dealer friend that we spoke to this is where the problem lies in all thecases hes heard about on the r1's at least) If we make astronger bracket because the bracket is breaking in a wreck while practicing or normal riding i think we are then running the very likely risk that any impact that would have simply broken a bracket will now break off the threaded area of the frame here the bracket attaches (the aluminum atach point being weaker than the bracket itself) this would be a much bigger hassle and alot more expensive than a broken bracket i think.
Well thats just my opinion on it good chance it doesnt help any body but what else am i gonna do at work? work? yeah ok its the night before turkey day i shouldnt even be here!

Kyle_PBZ · 11-28-2002, 02:57 AM

Sclevela makes a good point about breaking the frame where the peg hangers mount. It would be much worse if the frame was damaged, hard to weld aluminum. I think it would be best if everyone kept an eye on them especially after dropping the bike. Just my.02 cents.:cool:

11-28-2002, 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by PsychoBoy1
Sclevela makes a good point about breaking the frame where the peg hangers mount. It would be much worse if the frame was damaged, hard to weld aluminum. I think it would be best if everyone kept an eye on them especially after dropping the bike. Just my.02 cents.:cool:

just to add a point about the aluminum peg hangers on the frame. A guy that i ride with broke off one of the hangers for his leftside peg in an endo gone wrong. He had the piece welded on once ..... it lasted 1 week and broke again, we took it to another welder who made a whole new hanger spot my building it up into a lump and grinding it to shape redrilling and retapping the whole, this lasted just afew days and not only broke again but now the other bolt point has cracked also because it was weakened by the heating and cooling from welding the one above it.
Best solution i have come up with is to again check ur bolts (there is a reason why racers safety wire stuff so it cant back out) and in critical spots remove factory bolts (like the peg bolts on the r1) and replace them with something like a grade 8 bolt)

psyco650 · 11-28-2002, 12:35 PM

hey just a few things to say. i am a tool and die apprentice so i do alot of aluminum welding(had to weld my rear break lever back togather)any time you have to weld aluminum, like with weldingup the bump then drilling and retapping you will lose up to 50% of the aluminums strength. it is like over heat treating steel it will cause the material to get brittle. and every time it is welded it will get worse. plus cast aluminum, like most shit is is harder to weld and even weaker after it is welded. so be careful with the heavy duty brackets

crazeinc · 11-28-2002, 05:54 PM

sounds like people just need to buy some heavier duty bolts.

11-28-2002, 06:28 PM

sclevela's comment is the exact reason I have not made stronger rearsets. The guy that does my welding said he could make it but he was afraid the added strength would cause a break at the frame instead.
Those tabs that hold the rearset would probably would not be able to take the added stress. Then you have a worse problem then just replacing the rearset.

Kyle_PBZ · 11-29-2002, 12:36 PM

Doesn't look like a good idea!

11-27-2002, 04:14 PM	#1
crazeinc Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: Bike: '98 F3, '85 Z50 (f/s) Gender: Male Posts: 647	Do stunters need heavy-duty footpegs? I keep reading about how these pegs are breaking off. My buddy's dad has a metal fabrication shop that could produce beefy units without much problem. If there's a need for them, I could talk to him about it. I was reading elsewhere that the aftermarket rear sets are weaker and made for racing. Let me know.

11-27-2002, 11:00 PM	#4
sclevela Age: Bike: Gender: Posts: n/a	one problem guys i hate to bring up a bad spot but if we put stronger rearsets, brackets on our bikes we are doing this to prevent breakage during what? If its a peg break during astand up wheelie like mentioned in another thread, the stronger bracket wont help. Im not positive in thecases mentioned on this site, but in the case of my buddies R1 it was not the bracket but the bolt that went through the peg and attached it to the bracket that snapped. (and from my understanding from a dealer friend that we spoke to this is where the problem lies in all thecases hes heard about on the r1's at least) If we make astronger bracket because the bracket is breaking in a wreck while practicing or normal riding i think we are then running the very likely risk that any impact that would have simply broken a bracket will now break off the threaded area of the frame here the bracket attaches (the aluminum atach point being weaker than the bracket itself) this would be a much bigger hassle and alot more expensive than a broken bracket i think. Well thats just my opinion on it good chance it doesnt help any body but what else am i gonna do at work? work? yeah ok its the night before turkey day i shouldnt even be here!

11-28-2002, 02:57 AM	#5
Kyle_PBZ 2 WHEELS UP! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: So. IL Age: 32 Bike: 1970 Honda S90 Gender: Male Posts: 6,084	Sclevela makes a good point about breaking the frame where the peg hangers mount. It would be much worse if the frame was damaged, hard to weld aluminum. I think it would be best if everyone kept an eye on them especially after dropping the bike. Just my.02 cents.:cool: __________________ www.psychoboyz.com

11-29-2002, 12:36 PM	#10
Kyle_PBZ 2 WHEELS UP! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: So. IL Age: 32 Bike: 1970 Honda S90 Gender: Male Posts: 6,084	Survey Says! Doesn't look like a good idea! __________________ www.psychoboyz.com

11-27-2002, 09:13 PM	#3
Dirty B I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Orlando Age: 30 Bike: GSXR6 Gender: Male Posts: 1,444	If you could come up with something at a reasonable price, I'm sure many would be interested in it. If you're gonna do it, go ahead and make stronger rearsets too. Also, the most common bike is a 900RR so you should probably start making the parts for them

11-28-2002, 12:35 PM	#7
psyco650 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: ionia michigan Age: 28 Bike: 2001 SV650S Gender: Male Posts: 663	hey just a few things to say. i am a tool and die apprentice so i do alot of aluminum welding(had to weld my rear break lever back togather)any time you have to weld aluminum, like with weldingup the bump then drilling and retapping you will lose up to 50% of the aluminums strength. it is like over heat treating steel it will cause the material to get brittle. and every time it is welded it will get worse. plus cast aluminum, like most shit is is harder to weld and even weaker after it is welded. so be careful with the heavy duty brackets

11-28-2002, 05:54 PM	#8
crazeinc Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: Bike: '98 F3, '85 Z50 (f/s) Gender: Male Posts: 647	sounds like people just need to buy some heavier duty bolts.

11-28-2002, 06:28 PM	#9
GSE Anthony Age: Bike: Gender: Posts: n/a	sclevela's comment is the exact reason I have not made stronger rearsets. The guy that does my welding said he could make it but he was afraid the added strength would cause a break at the frame instead. Those tabs that hold the rearset would probably would not be able to take the added stress. Then you have a worse problem then just replacing the rearset.