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Old 10-22-2009, 04:01 PM   #21
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You guys missed the point of me saying France is the new hotness. Do some research its a great place to live whether theyre pussies or not.
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FYI Obama claims he is christian. His alcoholic african father was muslim. He white trash momma was godless so that makes him christian? Anyway...
These wheels have been in motion for along time. That was what NATO was originally designed for. NWO has been the globalist agenda for decades and only this year has been muttered aloud. Not fully endorsing this vid but its now obvious that its rooted in truth.


Na France has never been a good idea. U think its gunna end up any better than WWII? If u really wanna run away from a GLOBAL dictatorship try Australia. Check this out



Prime Minister Kevin Rudd - Australia Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on

Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted

radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday

by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques.
Quote: 'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.

Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether

we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist
attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the
majority of Australians'.

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials
and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.'
'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese,
Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to
become part of our society . Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing,
political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian
principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly
appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you,
then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home,
because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that
you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us..'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we
will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done
complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our
Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage
of one other great Australian freedom,

'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'...'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here.
You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
Maybe if we circulate this, American citizens will find the backbone to

start speaking and voicing the same truths.
ive always liked austrailia, now i wanna move there.
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he can legally sign the treaty. if he does, elections in 2012 wont matter cause it will superseed our constitution...fuckin shitty if ya ask me.
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Fuck those french frogs all the same.
I have confidence that most of our country wont stand for ANYONE trying to compromise our liberties. Our constitution is already been spit on and trampled. Dont Tread On Me. It seems we are going to be divided into those who stand up for our constitution (which is the only thing that ensures our rights as long as it is the absolute law of our land) and the nihilistic commies who support the globalist agenda. Obama is just a small figure head pawn in the game and has been planning this for the last 10 years. He has wanted to build an internal civilian military that answers directly to him since he started running. The last person to do that was Adolf Hitler. He called it the Gestapo. What happened right after that? He didnt shut down any of the detainment centers. He emptied most of them out. Why would a leader that stood for the people build up internal defenses and clear out secret prisons? Because he knows what hes setting up for and he knows we wont stand for it. The question now is if we are nazi germany and this NWO is axis powers who are the allies. Who will stand up for freedom and democracy.
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BTW the video is taken alil out of context. Still a big deal and def a leap n the wrong direction. I wish I had seen this bf I read this thread.
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=video&video-id=2595
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theres no way the president can or will sign taht treaty or any treaty. our country will not let him. if he does, n i dont think he even legally can, there will be the 2nd civil war in america. so this is why i do not take britts seriously.
Hard to fight when they already have taken most of our guns and are going to limit the amount of ammo you can posses, has any one tried to buy ammo lately? It's pretty scarce.... I can't find 7.62 anywhere so much for my assault rifles and the second amendment for that matter! People these days are fools, and have been brain washed into thinking guns are bad and we should get rid of guns so there is no more violence or school shootings..... Fools!! But I believe it will all go down just like it's supposed to, this country will fall just like every other empire in history..... Not from external threats but internal decay
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Fuck those french frogs all the same.
I have confidence that most of our country wont stand for ANYONE trying to compromise our liberties. Our constitution is already been spit on and trampled. Dont Tread On Me. It seems we are going to be divided into those who stand up for our constitution (which is the only thing that ensures our rights as long as it is the absolute law of our land) and the nihilistic commies who support the globalist agenda. Obama is just a small figure head pawn in the game and has been planning this for the last 10 years. He has wanted to build an internal civilian military that answers directly to him since he started running. The last person to do that was Adolf Hitler. He called it the Gestapo. What happened right after that? He didnt shut down any of the detainment centers. He emptied most of them out. Why would a leader that stood for the people build up internal defenses and clear out secret prisons? Because he knows what hes setting up for and he knows we wont stand for it. The question now is if we are nazi germany and this NWO is axis powers who are the allies. Who will stand up for freedom and democracy.
I pledge to do my part Bo duke!
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I pledge to do my part Bo duke!
Got any bullets? Lol
Yup. U need 7.62X39 or 54R? haha Seriously those of us that give a shit just need to pass the word and organize. Just be ready and be armed. Knowledge is the ultimate weapon. Its best that we have an intellectual renaissance were we open our minds and encourage free thought and expression. The most important people are the artist. Those who think outside the box. The people with open minds and vision for the future. Its the close minded pussies who have rolled over at the thought of confrontation that hold us back. If ur not moving forward than ur a speed bump slowing progress.
Its really simple actually if u take the initiative to step up and make ur own decisions on what u believe is tru. Ill make it easier by doing my best to sow the seeds of thought.
http://latter-rain.com/escha/beast.htm
This is interesting and at the very least deserves consideration. Heres ur ammo. Ull know when its time to use it
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Word 7.62 x 39, good lookin out in I'm definatly one who cars about our freedom, " Give me liberty or give me death"
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Hard to fight when they already have taken most of our guns and are going to limit the amount of ammo you can posses, has any one tried to buy ammo lately? It's pretty scarce.... I can't find 7.62 anywhere so much for my assault rifles and the second amendment for that matter! People these days are fools, and have been brain washed into thinking guns are bad and we should get rid of guns so there is no more violence or school shootings..... Fools!! But I believe it will all go down just like it's supposed to, this country will fall just like every other empire in history..... Not from external threats but internal decay
Ammo is not being limited. All the doomsdayers are buying it up faster than it can be made. Gun and ammo manufacturers are making a killing right now.
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Theirs a limit on how much u can buy at one time and for some reason or another the manufacturers are shippin in limited quantities. Well bellow what the retailers typically order anyway. Its not that demand has sky rocketed its that availability has dropped off.
Iv been all over my area in the last yr and a half asking about it cuz I like to shoot the crap outta things and that requires ammo (and red spray paint cans +grungy stuffed animals from goodwill (: muahahaha)
Originally the gov had predicted a brass shortage, but steel cased (which should have blown up in popularity and availability) and surplus ammo (which there are still huge stock piles of) supplies are both being restricted in the same manner. No shortage of brass or ammo either btw. The stock piles are still there. They are just not changing hands from co to public for whatever lame ass reason. People are using a hell of alot less ammo. They are saving it up. The demand has changed bc the supply has changed thus drining the value up as well. Suppliers try to predict trends and maximize their profits. This is most likely coordinated by those who stand to profit most by the trends of the market. Those companies who work closely w world governments and whos biggest customers are those governments militaries. Who do u think they market to more?
FYI if their was a brass shortage it would go up in value, thats how the market works, but the only thing to go up n value has been gold. That is bc the value of monetary assets have been dropping.
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Theirs a limit on how much u can buy at one time and for some reason or another the manufacturers are shippin in limited quantities. Well bellow what the retailers typically order anyway. Its not that demand has sky rocketed its that availability has dropped off.
Iv been all over my area in the last yr and a half asking about it cuz I like to shoot the crap outta things and that requires ammo (and red spray paint cans +grungy stuffed animals from goodwill (: muahahaha)
Originally the gov had predicted a brass shortage, but steel cased (which should have blown up in popularity and availability) and surplus ammo (which there are still huge stock piles of) supplies are both being restricted in the same manner. No shortage of brass or ammo either btw. The stock piles are still there. They are just not changing hands from co to public for whatever lame ass reason. People are using a hell of alot less ammo. They are saving it up. The demand has changed bc the supply has changed thus drining the value up as well. Suppliers try to predict trends and maximize their profits. This is most likely coordinated by those who stand to profit most by the trends of the market. Those companies who work closely w world governments and whos biggest customers are those governments militaries. Who do u think they market to more?
FYI if their was a brass shortage it would go up in value, thats how the market works, but the only thing to go up n value has been gold. That is bc the value of monetary assets have been dropping.
Where are you getting this info? Everything I've read says gun and ammunition sales are booming. Ammunition manufacturers are even adding extra shifts to try to keep up with the demand. The places that sell ammo may be limiting the amount you buy so that people don't hoard it all. Wal Mart is doing that up here.
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I guess I should rephrase. "Its not TOTALLY DO TO demand sky rocketing" Yea demand has gone up and supply has gone down. I got most of my information from the dealers that I usually buy from. Local gun shops, sporting good stores and even Wal-Mart. From what Iv heard they arent selling anymore ammo than they ever have bc they are getting less from their suppliers. They will only sell a limited quantity to one buyer bc they are rationing it for other customers. They dont have the supply to keep up w the demand. Yea people are stock piling what they can get when they can get it bc its hard to get. That is the trend created by the "brass shortage" that restricted original supply a year or so ago.
I donno for sure but mayb in another yr or so they will dump supplies and flood the market. People would buy it up quick and once the supplies readily available again then people will start using it alot more. Creating a boom in sales. LIS I donno whats gunna happen its speculation on my part but what wev been told is fact and what Iv heard and seen myself are conflicting and all any of us can do is read between the lines and speculate until it comes to pass.

BTW I amended my previous post bf I read ur last one.
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If there's a overall shortage then why are the manufacturers working overtime? It just doesn't make sense. People are quick to come up with conspiracy theories. Especially gun fanatics.
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Yea it doesnt make sense.There WAS supposedly a brass shortage and now there is more demand. Like I said we can only speculate until it comes to pass. I havent spoken to anyone who works for an ammo manufacturer nor do I know anyone who does so all I know is what they say they are doing. Doesnt make 2+2=666 haha jk. Seriously I dont really know. There are alot of theories out there and alot of conflicting 'facts' Im just not one to jump on any band wagons or be spoon fed comforting and misleading information. People arent stupid. My goal is to invoke free thought. I appreciate ur debate. Really. It proves that u are not a moron.
I could be wrong. Ive been wrong bf. I thought I made a mistake once jk.
Some people are quick to come up w conspiracy theories. Sometimes not warranted but dont b too quick to pass labels and judgments. I dont think u are one of those people Zuki750. Hopefully somebody else will read this and think. Hopefully they will read bt the lines and question what they are told. We need a renaissance of thought and speculation. Rather than a civil war fought w the guns and ammo that are being stock piled. Knowledge is power and the mind is the most powerful weapon the pen is mightier than the sword. So long as we are sharing knowledge and inspiring said free thought than we are standing united.
Anyway thats the real point Im trying to make.
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As far as ive been told, its a straight up shortage. And the stores that are putting limits on buying ammo are trying to keep people from hoarding it or buying a shit-ton and reselling it. My local Walmart had that problem, dude was going in there and buyin this stuff by the case as soon as it was in and then reselling it. Either way, Im hoardin lol. I havent seen shit for my ak in a while but i have a couple hundo rounds so im good. Same with the 9mm. I can get bird shot (that is it) for my shotgun, and havent even tried lookin for my 30.06. Good thing I got a gift cert from a gun store for xmas last year...went straight there and bought up as much ammo as i could and some.
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As far as ive been told, its a straight up shortage. And the stores that are putting limits on buying ammo are trying to keep people from hoarding it or buying a shit-ton and reselling it. My local Walmart had that problem, dude was going in there and buyin this stuff by the case as soon as it was in and then reselling it. Either way, Im hoardin lol. I havent seen shit for my ak in a while but i have a couple hundo rounds so im good. Same with the 9mm. I can get bird shot (that is it) for my shotgun, and havent even tried lookin for my 30.06. Good thing I got a gift cert from a gun store for xmas last year...went straight there and bought up as much ammo as i could and some.
Yup I hear ya. Every Wal Mart was or is doing that. It may have turned to a shortage by now. I havent bought ammo in prolly 7 months. I havent used much either. Saving it back and avoiding the hassle.
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I really want to like him because of the marijuana thing, and calling Kanye a jackass, but this would be a huge step in the wrong direction for me liking him.
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