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Old 08-25-2008, 08:44 PM   #81
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Old 08-25-2008, 08:47 PM   #82
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Obama should be president and as for weed or any drug being legal in America i don't think that will ever happen the Government is funded by Taxes and drugs its a big ass food chain. The drugs stimulate the economy without the drugs there wouldn't be half the goverment jobs there are and the goverment wouldnt get as much taxes as they do
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and terrorism is a made up word to brain wash America into thinking there was a reason to go into Iraq in the first place
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who cares about who the president is?!.....
if he does something CONGRESS doesnt like they canover ride him....
if he tries to prevent congress from doing something.....they canoverrride him.....

peopel make such a fuss about wh ois gonna be president but they have no interest in who represents their specific area in congress......

why not focus on fixing whats doable and not tackle the biggest fuckin issue you can find......i assure you our country/government/economy need help....but YOU are not fixing the country by any means....you CAN fix your specific area.....the type of things that need to be changed depends on where you live....HELLO CONGRESSMEN!


serisously tho...why fight over a guy who could give two shits about your specific town......
he may fix a good portion of the issues ain this country and still eave your area high and dry....why not get a grip on the people directly affecting you area......
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i should have posted it on the first page cause it's just gonna get lost in the mess ...lol
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who cares about who the president is?!.....
if he does something CONGRESS doesnt like they canover ride him....
if he tries to prevent congress from doing something.....they canoverrride him.....

peopel make such a fuss about wh ois gonna be president but they have no interest in who represents their specific area in congress......

why not focus on fixing whats doable and not tackle the biggest fuckin issue you can find......i assure you our country/government/economy need help....but YOU are not fixing the country by any means....you CAN fix your specific area.....the type of things that need to be changed depends on where you live....HELLO CONGRESSMEN!


serisously tho...why fight over a guy who could give two shits about your specific town......
he may fix a good portion of the issues ain this country and still eave your area high and dry....why not get a grip on the people directly affecting you area......
You are very correct sir. The house/senate (mostly democratic) are what controls/limits/takes away our liberties and freedoms. They are the real criminals. The president is just the guy that takes the fall for things.
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and terrorism is a made up word to brain wash America into thinking there was a reason to go into Iraq in the first place
Funny you should mention that. What do you think Hitler used to brainwash Germany in his day? "communist terrorists".

our country is so far beyond repair right now, all we can do is try to make small improvements one at a time to get things somewhat back to our root foundations. People like Obama bin laden are taking steps towards making even more of a royal clusterfuck of our country.
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When it comes down to it, it doesnt matter who will be the next prez honestly. It will never be anybody like Ron Paul who actually has balls and will do what he thinks is right. Its going to be somebody who takes money from special interest groups, i.e. the peeps that tell the bitch (prez) what to do and when to do it so he can keep gettin that money/power shit that his ego needs.

Obama is full of crap. If anybody thinks that he is just going to end the Iraq war, they need their head examined. There is way to much money in the war for it just to stop. If he becomes president, im willin to bet that he will be up at the podium some day sayin "Yeah, well, i was gonna take all of our boys home, but right now just aint the time. The iraqi people need us right now" or some crap like that. He will do a complete 180, just watch.

Im not defendin McCain at all. He is straight up sayin that that shit is gonna happen. He aint stopin the war for nothin and everybody knows it. But honestly, sayin Obama is the lesser of two evils is just a way to convince yourself that at least you tried stoppin another bush by voting for him. But if you remember, not voting for bush didnt stop puttin him in power. Obama could just as easily become another Lyndon Johnson that says ill stop the war and then dont if the right people approach him. Voting for Obama cause he is the lesser of two evils really doesnt solve any of the problems that are happenin right now and is just another way of givin up.

I think its bout time we, the people, take back our country and get rid of elitist assholes like these two. Right now, in this country, its about the haves and the have nots. There is no longer a middle class. I like to compare the middle class of today to the "house slaves" during slavery...they want oh so much to get to the top, yet they dont see that it wont ever happen. They think that if they work there ass off, are loyal, and put their job's first that they will be highly rewarded at the end of the day. In reality, they are just another person that could be layed off like the rest. And with this lil 2nd potential cold war that is gettin set up in the old eastern bloc, the gap is only gonna get wider while the people in our country get dumber.

Sorry for the rant, but im gettin sick of seein this shit. America is headin so far from its origins that its not even funny. Our ancestors came over here to get away from poverty in the old countries and make for themselves and those around them better lives than what they had. Whether it was cause of religious freedom or just a chance of not having to live in a barn, sheparding their fuedal lords sheep all day or some crap like that just to get a lil food at night. Granted, we dont have "fuedal lords" round here, but its becoming that way. I believe that we as a people need to recognize that and re-read the declaration of independence and the bill of rights and compare why this country was started to where it is now.
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If you consider having an inexperienced elitist, who keeps company with terrorists the lesser of two evils. Hope you enjoy givin half your paycheck away to the government.
or line the pockets of the wealthy who could give to shits about you or I...

Hmmm, help someone who actually would utilize it and help someone down the line like those who earn less than $250,000/yr or line the pockets of a bunch of extremely wealthy individuals with hundreds of millions. Hmmmm. That's a tough one....
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Heard on a local radio station that cover politics.

If this is true he may be out :YEAH

http://www.obamacrimes.com/index.php...-for-president
I seriously doubt that. I mean think about it.


He was born here in the USA of a mother who was from the midwest. Hmmm, that would pretty much make him an American the last time I checked.


hell, if those few "scare tactic crews" want to keep up the bullshit, ask them why is that illegal aliens here in california, where BOTH parents are ILLEGAL, have a kid born here and is still an American citizen as the child was BORN HERE....


Some of this should be common sense but when a rumor flies, people tend to lose their thought process and rational sides.
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a BIG +1 to that. The shitty part is that there is no way he will win, because he is black. this country is just to racist to elect a black president. Mabey in a couple generations down the line but not today.

we don't have that much time to wait. Our country is being sold out from our jobs being outsourced, big people taking advantage of the middle and smaller people, etc. Look around.

It'll be gone. we'll be a country but not a world power by any means if we keep heading the rate at which we are. Like seriously, take a look around. Why are we borrowing money from russia, china, and countries in the middle east to fund the war and keep us out of the fire. Its putting us further in it by being in debt to these countries who are not our allies. Like what gives, do people not think?

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who cares ... he is the lesser of two evils, anything is better than the walking dead man that will be another 4 years of W's politricks


I don't know if these people know what is going on, or if they choose to ignore it on purpose or what. Like I cannot sit and believe that anyone that is not, borderline a non-US citizen from some thrid world country, can sit and think that we are not in a horrid situation due to the current administration.


I mean, how many trillions of dollars, high gas, brutal job market, and list list goes on and on, that people can sit and say "Obama this, Obama that".....

Like I truly think they are either very very very limited in mental capacity, extrememly racist that they would endure and get that much closer to losing the great American nation we live in with more hardship, suffering, and the further selling out of the nation just to prevent this black guy that will undoubtedly do better than what we have currently, EASILY.

I can't think of anything else. I for the life of me am not a fan of either. But this is what we have on the table, Im sorry, Obama is better than the archaic, outdated, Mccain. Apologies, but he's too old school and will continue in the direction we are going.

McCain is even agreeing with Obama with his methods and acting like they are his own.

he stated he will fight in Iraq for 100yrs. That is recorded on national news on several occasions. Obama says we should have a time limit and let them get on with their program.

Now mccain says "we shoudl come up with a timeline" and every bonehead for him cheers. Like dude, Obama said that like a few weeks ago and has been preaching it.


I am not really democratic and all that but, nah, our country needs something different. Its common sense.

Are we for the country truly making progress or not. Its that simple.
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I couldnt tell you who is more or less racist, but white people are the majority of the population, so they will have a far greater effect on the outcome of the election.
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Were you hanging out with them during the last terrorists convention, is that how you know this?

The president doesn't change tax law, congress does, and it's better than the oil & auto industries getting massive tax breaks to keep us spending more on those so people like mccain and W can line their pockets.

You want to back someone that can't even answer how many houses he owns? Yeah real good economics. I guess if you think that being rich means you’ve got to make $5 million, and if you don’t know how many houses you have, then it’s not surprising that you might think the economy was fundamentally strong. But if you’re like me, and you got one house, or you were like the millions of people who are struggling right now to keep up with their mortgage so they don’t lose their home, you might have a different perspective.

Get off the rhetoric band wagon and pay attention to facts.


I am right on with you dude.


Again, I think that people are soooo trying to ignore truth with flames that make no sense. Like, let's get real. Do we live in the same country?

I think these middle lower class mccain fans think he's is actually like them. Almost like our current administration. Listen guys, sorry to bust your bubble but he's not middle class nor has been in it. He has no idea how many houses he owns. How can he relate? Obama released his income and all records to the public as did his wife and many others. Hilary did everntually and mccain still didn't release all of his income I beleieve and his wife didn't give up anything. Not to say we need a man who has poor finances in office but try to have your assets known.

What is there to hide, too bad so sad, you chose a position in which you are a public figure, your going to have to be public with your life and all aspects thereof.

Hell look at someone not even political and an entertainer, all their crap is all over the media.
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Go Ron Paul
I was ALL for Ron Paul. He was the one candidate that was on it.
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who the fuck is ron paul? i see his signs and stickers everywhere in the bay area and when i went to san diego this past week i saw huge ron paul stickers on peoples back windows.


Here's a start bro....


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He has never voted to raise taxes.
He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
He has never taken a government-paid junket.
He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

He voted against the Patriot Act.
He voted against regulating the Internet.
He voted against the Iraq war.

He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress

http://www.ronpaul.net/html/about.html

http://www.ronpaul.com/

His economics are on point, he is all about the constitution and our civil liberties, oh and ... http://granitestaters.com/candidates/ron_paul.html
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You want to be a liberal democrat, no problem. Think it's a good idea to have a black President, no problem! Think Obama is a good choice you're insane. That guy says nothing with any depth, He has no plans. If you know anything about reading peoples actions you can tell he is an elitist, power hungry narcissist who already thinks he's the leader of the world. He has pretty much contradicted everything he originally ran on just to try and get more level headed democrats to like him and not just the crazy 19 y/o college hippies and black woman who like him. THIS GUY IS DANGEROUS, get your heads straight if you like this FUCK.


PS i did vote for ron paul in primary too scott

Ihave never in the history of the USA seen a candidate or person running who isn't confident and think they can handle the job.

Not only that, I seriously doubt that he is going to lead it like the Korean Pres Mr. Kim. He's not a dictator and we have something called congress, and laws, voters, etc that all have an input in propositions.


have you ever been a supervisor before? well, if you have then you'd know, you don't call all the shots. You have to hear people out and everyone will come to a conclusion but use the higher up to help put a velvet hammer on what's fair and equal with everyones input.


McCain wants to jump all over russia. Being bulldogish. dude, does it not play a role that your campaign buddy is the embassy leader of georgia who has contributed millions to his interests might play a role in his wanting to fight russia? Why not hear the story? The georgians had killed several high officials from russia on russias territory on their side. Russia was responding for their people and getting the georgian advance on their country boudaries.

So they reacted.

we went to war for those who flew into our towers. we defended ours.

whats the difference? At least they went after the right people who caused the issue. we went after a country who had not much to do with it if any as 12 of the 14 hijackers of 9/11 came from suadi arabia. Hmmmmm
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Not anymore he's not. He's lost 5 points in the last month or two. A liberal piece of shit like Obama is the last thing we need in this country. The douche flip-flops more than john kerry! The only time that Obama knows what to say during a speech is when it's written out right in front of him! Put him in front of a camera candid and watch him fumble and trip all over his own words. That guy is a fuck.
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