Is the cost of gas and the economy affecting your wallet?

[Aaron Colton]

I would say that the economy is hurting me a ton. In the new rig it cost me 1400 to go from Minnesota to Tennessee and then back to Minnesota!

-Aaron

[nags]

Gas is killing me bad.

[Vern]

I think it's a temporary thing for maybe the next year. The economy is falling into recession but when it hits the bottom things will start to settle. There is already other kinds of vehicles on their way out like electric cars and lots more hybrids at lower price. Not everyone needs to buy an electric car to stop the problem. Just speculating about high gas prices above the roof will make a few paranoid buy those cars and the demand for gas in general will drop therefore you don't have to worry about it. Gas prices have been going up for several years now and there have been lots of plans since then for alternate sources of energy. It's just a matter of time before things settle in. In the short term yes we have a big problem but the bigger the problem the better the solutions will come and faster too.

Just look at this video that was posted November of last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88k6Ipp3c

Like I said it just takes a few to buy in and your safe. Demand of gas goes down significantly and this ZEN car is only one alternative. There are many hybrid cars and other solutions out there. It just takes a bite to the wallet to make people realize we need to change our habits.

[scott3824]

It has nothing to do with supply and demand.

[NINER]

Originally Posted by nags

Gas is killing me bad.

Get some bean-o.

[Vern]

Originally Posted by scott3824

It has nothing to do with supply and demand.

The price of anything you buy is affected by supply and demand. If half america would stop buying gas then the price would go down significantly but it's not going to happen. It's going to be a gradual thing with the alternate energy options that are coming out. In the meantime we are fucked.

[scott3824]

Ok I assume you never took macroeconomics then. Supply and demand is only 1 of many determining factors. There is no shortage of oil to our demand. The effects of Katrina on gas/oil prices was due to supply and demand, the last year of inflated cost does not however.

[-ChaOs-]

Originally Posted by Vern

I think it's a temporary thing for maybe the next year. The economy is falling into recession but when it hits the bottom things will start to settle. There is already other kinds of vehicles on their way out like electric cars and lots more hybrids at lower price. Not everyone needs to buy an electric car to stop the problem. Just speculating about high gas prices above the roof will make a few paranoid buy those cars and the demand for gas in general will drop therefore you don't have to worry about it. Gas prices have been going up for several years now and there have been lots of plans since then for alternate sources of energy. It's just a matter of time before things settle in. In the short term yes we have a big problem but the bigger the problem the better the solutions will come and faster too.

Just look at this video that was posted November of last year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M88k6Ipp3c

Like I said it just takes a few to buy in and your safe. Demand of gas goes down significantly and this ZEN car is only one alternative. There are many hybrid cars and other solutions out there. It just takes a bite to the wallet to make people realize we need to change our habits.

Blah blah blah on the save the enviroment bullshit and that we need to change our habits. Why are we so concerned with vehicles and not looking at the bigger picture like plants that are burning fossile fuels to run???? Carbon monoxide is one of the biggest causes of ozone damage yet we are told that the trucking industry is one of the biggest contributers to this problem. Last I checked semi's run diesel and last I checked a diesel produces next to nothing when it comes to carbon monoxide so how does that work? The gas prices are increasing to fatten pockets and nothing more, lets look at the big picture once again why dont we open the oil reserves in the U.S. and cut or dependance with the countries we are at war with?

[Vern]

Originally Posted by -ChaOs-

Blah blah blah on the save the enviroment bullshit and that we need to change our habits. Why are we so concerned with vehicles and not looking at the bigger picture like plants that are burning fossile fuels to run???? Carbon monoxide is one of the biggest causes of ozone damage yet we are told that the trucking industry is one of the biggest contributers to this problem. Last I checked semi's run diesel and last I checked a diesel produces next to nothing when it comes to carbon monoxide so how does that work? The gas prices are increasing to fatten pockets and nothing more, lets look at the big picture once again why dont we open the oil reserves in the U.S. and cut or dependance with the countries we are at war with?

I didn't say anything about the envrionment and that we need to change our habits. It's just normal part of evolution that some people will buy those new cars that are cheaper. If you look forward in 10 years there will be a lot less fuel cars and other alternatives will take over the market. Which will reduce the demand for gas and will not impact us anymore.

[-ChaOs-]

Ya it wasnt directed at you I am just saying in general this is what they keep saying which is what was in your post lol

[NINER]

Originally Posted by -ChaOs-

why dont we open the oil reserves in the U.S. and cut or dependance with the countries we are at war with?

I say we keep the oil reserves untouched, and not to portect a couple of polar bears or owls. I say keep it as an emergency fund in case we REALLY piss off some major oil producing countries and get cut off.

[-ChaOs-]

I dont think poeple realize how much oil we actually have in country, I got a better idea, how bout when we goto war and put american soldiers lives at risk we take the fucking country over and not be so civil about it that way we will also gain because we have a whole nother country full of oil. I am sick of burracrats telling us how war should be faught. The world is mad at us for being there whats the difference now if we take it over? Nothing! Instead we go into a country get americans killed and then fuck up our economy by rebuilding the country we just blew up with our tax dollars, this makes no sense!!!

[scott3824]

Originally Posted by -ChaOs-

why dont we open the oil reserves in the U.S. and cut or dependance with the countries we are at war with?

Because the reserves are an emergency short term supply, we would blow through it and have nothing for emergencies and I don't know about you but I want to know this country has a contingency plan if ww3 kicks off. If we drilled in Alaska we could be almost self sufficient btw. Anyways this is not a supply/demand issue like I already stated. And as far as not buying from countries we are at war with - ha, where do you think some of the oil we get from Russia comes from - the middle east. That shit is sold around so much it doesn't matter. We need drilling in Alaska and many more refineries here - if that happened gas would be down around $1.50 a gallon in 5 years.

[-ChaOs-]

Like I said people have no clue, they just tested the capacity of the oil in alaska and estimate that there is enough oil to power this country at the rate we are currently at for well over 1000 years. How is that going to blown through in no time. Also they just published new information on oil wells and that they are now starting to look at the possibility that it is not a natural resource, but is actually a renewable resource due to the fact that old dry wells from some years ago are now showing signs of oil again. I am sick of this country depending on others wether it is the arabs or the russians!!! We need to start caring about us for once and worry about this country instead of every other poor ass place on the planet!

[NINER]

Originally Posted by -ChaOs-

We need to start caring about us for once and worry about this country instead of every other poor ass place on the planet!

+1,0000000000000000

[scott3824]

Originally Posted by -ChaOs-

Like I said people have no clue, they just tested the capacity of the oil in alaska and estimate that there is enough oil to power this country at the rate we are currently at for well over 1000 years. How is that going to blown through in no time. Also they just published new information on oil wells and that they are now starting to look at the possibility that it is not a natural resource, but is actually a renewable resource due to the fact that old dry wells from some years ago are now showing signs of oil again. I am sick of this country depending on others wether it is the arabs or the russians!!! We need to start caring about us for once and worry about this country instead of every other poor ass place on the planet!

Are you agreeing with me or not you big gorilla Because we are saying the same thing.

[-ChaOs-]

lol i am agreeing, I am sick of of politions!!!

[Aaron Colton]

Exxon mobile made 7billion dollars of profit total in the year 2000 and they made 10.9 billion dollars of profit in the first three months of 2007.

Supply and demand? I think not.

-Aaron

[-ChaOs-]

It is supply and demand, the politicians "demand" you "supply" there pockets!

[ksolo]

I own and operate an automitve aftermarket accessories and parts business. we've been open for over 10 years. business is down 35-40% from before the economy got shitty. however i do vinyl graphics and sign work also and that is actually gettin busier every month...