I wanna hear your opinion about this!

[bikerboy]

Originally Posted by aw0n0

hes black, not that it matters. where the fuck is he anyways?

really? What proof ya got?



ahahahahahaha.

[bikerboy]

I am sorry if you feel the way you do but bro, seriously, I can't see anything wrong with what I posted and didn't think you'd take it as seriously as you did.

Nothing I can do about that. Everything in there was the truth.

Hmm.

Let's do it my style. I go by facts, not feelings.

1. you have a kid young, you cannot be that college drunken frat boy. Your times up. You have others depending on you.

2. Kids are expensive. Not month to month, but long term. PLan ahead and sacrifice now.

3. You have a kid, God blessed you with the ability to HAVE a degree. Take it and run and find a job. 3/4 of society has no degree. Going after more degrees that "might" (that is the word, might, not GUARANTEED) AND putting pressure on your wife/child is NOT a good decision in my opinion.

4. Kids are the best thing that a man could ever enjoy, but at the same time the most draining. Again financially, mentally, and physically. A crying puppy you can put outside or in a kennel, a baby, you HAVE to be there. Sorry, but that's life.

5. Your blessed with a baby without complications and healthy, zip the mouth and be thankful and quit worrying about being vengeful. Your a MAN. Men don't worry about little crap. You have to look at the broader picture my man. I am not a kid. I am not an adolescent. Before you were born I was in the streets playing/fighting and os on. I am not new to the block of life. I am telling you from someone who knows. I have friends whose kids are 14 now. Time flies. I SEE the problems they have had. SO take my advice with a grain of salt. Don't worship it but take it into consideration.

6. I said, " no you sealed your freedom. " You cannot do as you will. You have a KID. Look out for your KID. Did you expect me to give you a pamper and treat lyou like a baby? No, your a man. Come on. Your no kid. As the saying goes "you screw around like an adult, now its time to be one". I think your more angry with the fact that truth is thrown upon you. You are mad bc you regret the situation your in. How are YOU going to be mad at ME when you did it to yourself? Sorry man. Sorry, this is somethign you will carry with you until the day you die. Its the what if's. What if i did this or that or refrained from this?

That is called, LIFE.


.. Your mad b/c you have truth spewed on your being? I mean, nothing I say is falsified. This is truth.


Grow up my man. Grow up. This post was not evil or trying to despise you in any way what so ever. I was not trying to hurt your feelings , etc.

But sorry man, life is rough and I am telling you from a big boy's point of view. I have been 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, and the list goes on and on.

Gain some age and come back and read that post and you'll see. When I was your age, your frustrated, have hopes and dreams but you get in your own way.

You'll see. Just get some age under your belt and you'll see i was not trying to talk shit, make you mad, or demean you in any way.

Sorry you can't take the truth. The truth is harsh. Its sad, but true.

I can tell you, your going to be a millionaire and you will travel to a country every month. But is that reality?

I can tell you " oh man, you'll be fine. You'll be ok. you'll be rich buy a big house, pay for your kids college, have a few sportcars, bike, etc"

But is THAT REALITY?

Do those giving advice KNOW reality?

I said it then, and I will say it again.

having a kid is HARD and you have to look out for the CHILD. You can't just can't do the things you are used to doing. You have to look out for your child.

Period.



Do you now understand why I couldn't understand your harrassments in my thread lately? I coulnd;t understand why YOU would do such. I wasn't trying to bash you. If I was, trust me, you'd know. I don;t do that. Its not me. I've been FUCT by members here finacially. Do you see me posting them up? Alot of people here know about it. But fug it. Who cares. This isn't words. This is MONEY i lost. Bahhh. I'm not going to freak or lose it.

I never had a reason to break you down. I just told you the reality from life in my eyes.

Some may say having a kid is cheap easy, and have plenty of time to waste and do what ever you want. Otherwise, its my version.

Its hard man. Life isn't easy by any means.

Don't be so sensitive. Grow some thick skin. The internet is a place of looney toons. If this makes you mad then the shit I've been through yrs ago would have made you commit suicide if things as such tick you off.

I suggest you NEVER join the military either. Just stick to what your good at. The boys in the green would put you through more than you could handle man.

Just do you. Take life one piece at a time, and enjoy your kid. Always remember, your KID is depending on YOU.

[GSWITCH33]

I'm not a sensitive guy by any means. I dont hate you for what you said. I just think you where being a little biased because of the fact that im only 21 compared to other 30 year old guys. I guess I didnt appreciate you telling me that im a drunken frat boy and am out all night getting drunk and shit when I dont. I'm more responsible than that. Nothings ever been handed to me in life and I dont expect a helping hand with this upcoming child. Its all on me and I know that. Just because Im only 21 doesnt mean that I cant be like any other dad out doing his thing for his child.


I'm not going to go get another degree for the money. I'm getting it because I like school and have the ability to still go so why not. I'll be bettering myself for my childs future and also mine.

I know what ive gotten myself into and im not running away from it or pushing it off onto someone else. This is my responsibility and I want to know what others have done that might of been in my situation at one point or time. My life isnt over by any means. It has yet to even begin.

I dont know if you have any kids yourself or not but, I cant wait to have her. Im excited as all hell for this. I hated kids before this but now its like I cant wait to do everything for her that I can as a father and I dont need someone telling me that my life is over and im done for.


So no I didnt take it in a sensitive way and I was offended as to how you worded it. What you said might be the truth but not entirely.

[bikerboy]

Originally Posted by GSWITCH33

I'm not a sensitive guy by any means. I dont hate you for what you said. I just think you where being a little biased because of the fact that im only 21 compared to other 30 year old guys. I guess I didnt appreciate you telling me that im a drunken frat boy and am out all night getting drunk and shit when I dont. I'm more responsible than that. Nothings ever been handed to me in life and I dont expect a helping hand with this upcoming child. Its all on me and I know that. Just because Im only 21 doesnt mean that I cant be like any other dad out doing his thing for his child.

1. I didn't ay you were a drunken frat boy. I said you can't go out and party and be carefree like one.

2. I never said that being 21 you cannot raise a son. I said it is going to make you life HARDER. I never said it was impossible. I said you can't act andf think like a kid who has no boudaries. You are BOUND DOWN now. You cannot be foolish and ride a bike like you used to and could. You could die and will leave a child without a father and a mother who will most like struggle her ass off. Again, you have to be a MAN. Stop the childish "wants" and grow up. That is what I am saying.

Originally Posted by GSWITCH33

I'm not going to go get another degree for the money. I'm getting it because I like school and have the ability to still go so why not.

3. Now that you have admitted this it makes you seem even more immature. Seriously. OK, your not going to school, as going back, will not affect your household income. You just want to go back b/c you "like" school. And you think that is a Man's decision? You being young is forcing you to want to be care free and take classes b/c you can, etc. Again, you have a kid. Go to class WHILE WORKING A FULL TIME JOB with your career if you want to dick and play around with classes and going into debt.

So, uhhh, your going to put prerssure on your FAMILY now that you are the person responsible for putting food down. But not only that, your going to do it b/.c you "like" school. Uhhh yea. Dude, again, grow up. You BLEW your freedoms to be free and do what you want.

Yes, you can do what ever then hell you want technically. You can smash bottles on your head b/c your manic for all I care. But do your actions make it right? You have a kid, and I have been saying this one billion times. You cannot do the same childish things you have done before. You have to be a man. GO TO WORK and quit wasting time bc you scared to get shit shoved at you by your boss. Youre afraid to go into the real world it seems, now that you have some luggage.

Now, your FORCED to stay at a job b/c if you lose it you start from scratch all over again. New retirement, new benefits, new everything. You don't get it I see. But you know what? You will, society will shove it down your throat and make you get with the program. Otherwise, you'll be a bottom feeder of society if you cant change or adapt and make sound decisions. You have a kid and your kid is depending on YOU to hang in there with that asshole boss, the moutaints of paperwork, etc. your wife too. You must be the man, so be one as they are looking up to you.

But, you jumped into shit while you are a kid and thought it would be easy, so deal with it.

I'm frank, will not hold your hand or give you cuddly words. That's not me and never will. I tell it the way it is.

If its not going to do much finacially except put you in more debt, then quit wasting time and go get a job with the degree. Dilly dally when the kid starts grade school or something.

Originally Posted by GSWITCH33

I dont know if you have any kids yourself or not but, I cant wait to have her. Im excited as all hell for this. I hated kids before this but now its like I cant wait to do everything for her that I can as a father and I dont need someone telling me that my life is over and im done for.


So no I didnt take it in a sensitive way and I was offended as to how you worded it. What you said might be the truth but not entirely.

No one said your damn life was over. Again, be tough and be a man. I said its going to make your life extremely difficult.

Then you say "I cant wait to do everything for her that I can as a father ". Hey pal does not working a real job and taking classes that won't put more money in the bank make sense? Does that sound like everything you can? If you were doing everyhting you could, you'd sell useless crap around the house, get a real job, and get saving, alot. Work full time at a real job and take classes in the evening. But again, guess what? You won't get to see your child. So she's stressed from the baby all day, your stressed, etc. Hmm, makes for a great family relationship. Doesn't it ring a bell as to why 64% of marraiges where the people are 25 or younger never work out? Its b/c their mentally not ready. So I am not saying YOU are going to fail. I am saying the ODDS are against you. So you going to have to work harder to not be a statisitc. No one plans for divorce, or break up, or to pay child support b.c she's figured out she didn't go out and enjoy life enough and realize she's getting old and the list goes on.

Most of the problems are with money. And working at "mcdonalds" or where ever while you hold a degree in your hand so you can go back to screw with some classes DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

Those that had kids young realize its HARD WORK. Trust me. You say you hated kids but all of a sudden turned over a new leaf. Yea, you say that as you are excited. But wait until that baby shits, needs, food, supplies, doctor, your wife starts to ignore you a little to tend to the baby, etc.

What, you gonna be a little boy and go on welfare ESP WITH A DEGREE b/c you can't afford a baby???

Huh?

That isn't a fukin man. How does a man do it? GO TAKE YOUR ASS TO WORK. Get on a health and dental plan at youR damn job and CARE FOR THE BABY. Youre selling wolf ticket to me right now.


You said your offended by my words? The truth hurts pal and I'm nice. Those people all around you that see you on the road could care less about you or your baby. How about a boss that lays off a man that has worked at his job for 15 yrs and needs money to pay the housenote, the bills, and food for his kids? Then the boss say " I'm going to have to let you go"

You think that boss is going to let you cry on his shoulder? NOPE.

When you get out in the real world, your on your own and guess what?


YOUR GOING TO BE OFFENDED BY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT LIFE. SO get used to it.

Kids get bent out of shape when people name call or says something they don't want to hear..... A man, doesn't miss a beat and keeps on keepin on and ignores what is not truth.

Which one are you?

(hmm, I need to be on tv talking about tough love. Hell, I'm pretty good...haha)

[Pimpus Maximus]

Bikerboy, with all this fact based information I'd love to see a picture of your son or daughter.

-Max.

[Beto]

Originally Posted by bikerboy

really? What proof ya got?



ahahahahahaha.

so tell me b/c now its bugging me dude. Are you white or black?

[David D]

Originally Posted by Beto

Yeah, I dont see whats offensive about it either but ummm I thought bikerboy was white

+1

[GSWITCH33]

Originally Posted by bikerboy

1. I didn't ay you were a drunken frat boy. I said you can't go out and party and be carefree like one.

2. I never said that being 21 you cannot raise a son. I said it is going to make you life HARDER. I never said it was impossible. I said you can't act andf think like a kid who has no boudaries. You are BOUND DOWN now. You cannot be foolish and ride a bike like you used to and could. You could die and will leave a child without a father and a mother who will most like struggle her ass off. Again, you have to be a MAN. Stop the childish "wants" and grow up. That is what I am saying.





3. Now that you have admitted this it makes you seem even more immature. Seriously. OK, your not going to school, as going back, will not affect your household income. You just want to go back b/c you "like" school. And you think that is a Man's decision? You being young is forcing you to want to be care free and take classes b/c you can, etc. Again, you have a kid. Go to class WHILE WORKING A FULL TIME JOB with your career if you want to dick and play around with classes and going into debt.

So, uhhh, your going to put prerssure on your FAMILY now that you are the person responsible for putting food down. But not only that, your going to do it b/.c you "like" school. Uhhh yea. Dude, again, grow up. You BLEW your freedoms to be free and do what you want.

Yes, you can do what ever then hell you want technically. You can smash bottles on your head b/c your manic for all I care. But do your actions make it right? You have a kid, and I have been saying this one billion times. You cannot do the same childish things you have done before. You have to be a man. GO TO WORK and quit wasting time bc you scared to get shit shoved at you by your boss. Youre afraid to go into the real world it seems, now that you have some luggage.

Now, your FORCED to stay at a job b/c if you lose it you start from scratch all over again. New retirement, new benefits, new everything. You don't get it I see. But you know what? You will, society will shove it down your throat and make you get with the program. Otherwise, you'll be a bottom feeder of society if you cant change or adapt and make sound decisions. You have a kid and your kid is depending on YOU to hang in there with that asshole boss, the moutaints of paperwork, etc. your wife too. You must be the man, so be one as they are looking up to you.

But, you jumped into shit while you are a kid and thought it would be easy, so deal with it.

I'm frank, will not hold your hand or give you cuddly words. That's not me and never will. I tell it the way it is.

If its not going to do much finacially except put you in more debt, then quit wasting time and go get a job with the degree. Dilly dally when the kid starts grade school or something.





No one said your damn life was over. Again, be tough and be a man. I said its going to make your life extremely difficult.

Then you say "I cant wait to do everything for her that I can as a father ". Hey pal does not working a real job and taking classes that won't put more money in the bank make sense? Does that sound like everything you can? If you were doing everyhting you could, you'd sell useless crap around the house, get a real job, and get saving, alot. Work full time at a real job and take classes in the evening. But again, guess what? You won't get to see your child. So she's stressed from the baby all day, your stressed, etc. Hmm, makes for a great family relationship. Doesn't it ring a bell as to why 64% of marraiges where the people are 25 or younger never work out? Its b/c their mentally not ready. So I am not saying YOU are going to fail. I am saying the ODDS are against you. So you going to have to work harder to not be a statisitc. No one plans for divorce, or break up, or to pay child support b.c she's figured out she didn't go out and enjoy life enough and realize she's getting old and the list goes on.

Most of the problems are with money. And working at "mcdonalds" or where ever while you hold a degree in your hand so you can go back to screw with some classes DOES NOT MAKE SENSE.

Those that had kids young realize its HARD WORK. Trust me. You say you hated kids but all of a sudden turned over a new leaf. Yea, you say that as you are excited. But wait until that baby shits, needs, food, supplies, doctor, your wife starts to ignore you a little to tend to the baby, etc.

What, you gonna be a little boy and go on welfare ESP WITH A DEGREE b/c you can't afford a baby???

Huh?

That isn't a fukin man. How does a man do it? GO TAKE YOUR ASS TO WORK. Get on a health and dental plan at youR damn job and CARE FOR THE BABY. Youre selling wolf ticket to me right now.


You said your offended by my words? The truth hurts pal and I'm nice. Those people all around you that see you on the road could care less about you or your baby. How about a boss that lays off a man that has worked at his job for 15 yrs and needs money to pay the housenote, the bills, and food for his kids? Then the boss say " I'm going to have to let you go"

You think that boss is going to let you cry on his shoulder? NOPE.

When you get out in the real world, your on your own and guess what?


YOUR GOING TO BE OFFENDED BY PEOPLE THROUGHOUT LIFE. SO get used to it.

Kids get bent out of shape when people name call or says something they don't want to hear..... A man, doesn't miss a beat and keeps on keepin on and ignores what is not truth.

Which one are you?

(hmm, I need to be on tv talking about tough love. Hell, I'm pretty good...haha)

You went from being dumb to being royally fuckin retarded. Your going off on stuff that has nothing to do with me. Where in the fuck did you get this whole tough love shit from? Where you beat daily as a child? You are talkin about nothing that has to do with anything that started this whole issue. You keep rambling on and have convinced me you have diahera of the mouth which also makes me think you've gotten your ass kicked alot.

1. I'm Not married
2. I have never worked at a fast food restaurant
3. People can hold jobs while in school you know


Seriously your gonna sit and lecture me for things that have nothing to do with me? When in the fuck did I ever say I was married or not working to support a kid? Stop making shit up and maybe you would shut up.

You think your so damn great for being a pro for tough love? Wow thats something to brag about but then again that might be the only thing you have to brag about. When in the fuck did I ever ask you to hold my hand and give me cuddly words? I mean seriously do you make this shit up as you go or do you imagine things and hear voices in your head? Your going nuts over something that you make up?


Get over yourself.

[MikeM]

bikerboy's right

[GSWITCH33]

What that, my marriage wont last? or my job at Mcdonalds is not enough? Whoever said I worked at that shit?

I never said he was wrong, I understand everything he is saying but hes making shit up about me and going off about that?

Whoever said I wanted someone to hold my hand thru life? I mean seriously, everything he says is common sense about the real world, but seriously dont make shit up about me and go off on what you make up about someone.

[dilligaff4i]

It's possible to have a full time job while going to college as a full time student. I'm doing it right now. I'm currently working an average of 60+ hours a week at $12.00 per hour plus $18.00 per hour of overtime. Yeah, that suck but Fort Wayne, IN has a shitty economy. I had to leave a $17-$21 per hour depending on bonus job at Smoker Craft Boat Co. that I loved to move to go to school, I got tired of driving an hour and a half each way to go to class. And I also used to work at Dutchman RV's in Goshen, IN bringing home an average of $900-$1000+ per week depending on bonus. And I'm only 21 too, and I already found out how hard you have to work to make "good" money.

So good luck with the kid. I'd say continue with school to get a good job that you can recieve awesome benifits at. Plus who really wants to bust their ass at work all day every day when you could just finish out your degree and sit on your ass at work all day... just my

And school sucks

[showtyme]

Originally Posted by Pimpus Maximus

Bikerboy, with all this fact based information I'd love to see a picture of your son or daughter.

-Max.

+1 I can't stand when people think they know everything about everything. If you have no experiance on a subject should you realyy be putting in your . I think not. Everybody on here that's sayin BB is right I'll bet that none of you have kids either. You can say whatever you want about me but as soon as you bring my kids into it then that's when I start gettin pissed.

I understand what BB was getting at but It could have been worded differently.

Anyways I'm done with all this shit. Everybody can just keep talkin about shit that they have no clue about.

[bikerboy]

Originally Posted by showtyme

+1 I can't stand when people think they know everything about everything. If you have no experiance on a subject should you realyy be putting in your . I think not. Everybody on here that's sayin BB is right I'll bet that none of you have kids either. You can say whatever you want about me but as soon as you bring my kids into it then that's when I start gettin pissed.

I understand what BB was getting at but It could have been worded differently.

Anyways I'm done with all this shit. Everybody can just keep talkin about shit that they have no clue about.

Good. All of that is hogwash. Yea, I could have said it in a different manner. so what, I didn't. I'm me and that is the way it goes. I do not go out of my way to talk shit in other threads of your b/c you don't agree with me.

Its your kiddie mentality. You don't even see it. Your nothing but a mere child yourself.

You said you get pissed when your kids start to get involved. Man, who is involving YOUR kid? YOU devulged you had a kid so if your that sensitive about what some jackass may say on the net then DON'T BRING UP that you have a kid. Otherwise, people are going to do and say what the hell they want. And who are you to make them stop?

So say what you want. You can feed yourself lies, etc.

Raising a child is NOT EASY AND NOT CHEAP. Quit thinking like a dman kid and understand you have a responsibility. You sould like those kids on Maury Povich or something "I can do it. I can have a baby if I want. Its my child. I can do it and can barely afford my normal stuff. "

Dude, what you two are failing to understand is there is something called "A RIGHT TIME AND PLACE" If your a broke kid who can barely pay his own bills and are willing to put yourself more hardships to pay for a kid then that is your damn business. You are making your damn bed so lie in it. Quit the crying about what the hell is say and the manner I do. But a mature person would say " nah, I foresee stress and problems in the future. I might wait until I am more able to care for another person. But you did what you want.

No your life isn't over but guess what, your not going to be as carefree as someone without a child. and if you do act carefree then you have no right having a child until you learn how to grwo up.

I am speaking truth and that's it.

Period.

You can go on and rant about how I am mistreating you but get over it. Your life is naturally going to be alot tougher than someone who is married and both working at their careers for appx 10yrs. Hmm, who has a better chance at success? You take a guess and figure it out.

Its called planning ahead.

Again since you and the other guy have such a hard time comprhending material.

What I am saying one more time is YES, you CAN do it but your life if going to be alot harder than someone who is well established and has $1000s and $1000s put away in preparation for a kid. Its not a dog, its a HUGE COMMITMENT.

Go pick a fight with your neighbor or something. I can see life is getting to you to stress and dilly dally over such stupid crap...

[bikerboy]

Originally Posted by dilligaff4i

It's possible to have a full time job while going to college as a full time student.

So good luck with the kid. I'd say continue with school to get a good job that you can recieve awesome benifits at.

2 points that you didn't get out of this.

A. I have worked a full time job AND went to school full time and not with mickey mouse courses either. I know the struggle. But if you can avoid it, why not avoid it?

Originally Posted by dilligaff4i

So good luck with the kid. I'd say continue with school to get a good job that you can recieve awesome benifits at.

B. That's the point your MISSING. dude, he ALREADY HAS A DEGREE.. He's admitted that going back will not increase his financial gains. So it would be virtually useless.

I already told him that he needs to use the degree he's got, WORK LIKE A MAN, use the benefits, etc form the job, and if he wants to screw around with classes that make no differeence, then go at night. But then he'll be away from the kid and his wife for extended periods of time. All day work and night time school.

He doesn't seem to get that what we are trying to say is to go get a REAL job to take advantage of the healthcare, etc. He has a kid, get on with life. He's scared of growing up. He'll see the mistakes later on in life.

He's trying to blame others for his problems and expected cuddling and praising. Not real life discussion.

[Mr. Farley]

Holy long posts Batman!!

[bikerboy]

Originally Posted by GSWITCH33

What that, my marriage wont last? or my job at Mcdonalds is not enough? Whoever said I worked at that shit?

I never said he was wrong, I understand everything he is saying but hes making shit up about me and going off about that?

Whoever said I wanted someone to hold my hand thru life? I mean seriously, everything he says is common sense about the real world, but seriously dont make shit up about me and go off on what you make up about someone.

Did I say you? HUH? I said "X" AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGES OF PEOPLE AGED.....have highter rates of breakup and divorce.


Do you make up the entire percentage? HUH? Or did i say the ODDS ARE AGAINST YOU! Pay attention. You graduated college right? Act like it and use phonetics when reading. Just seeing words isn;'t reading.

McDonalds? Its a figure of speech. Some peopel make successful careers working there.

Just due to your reaction you said "Whoever said I worked at that shit?" signifies that you think that is a low sub-standard job. Your not going to be working on a lifelong career, raising a baby, and going to school. Its possible but let's face it and get real. Its going to put SEVERE strains elsewhere.


So get over this, gorw up, get a damn job like I have been saying and quit your bitching.

Fuck school unless you go at night, Why? YOU HAVE A DEGREE AND THE NEW COURSE WON'T AFFECT YOUR financial future. Uhh Duhhhhhhhh.

Its a no brainer.

Are you sure you graduated from college?

Bahh, that makes not difference. A person may have the world of booksmarts and not an ounce of common sense.

NOT saying YOU, before you start to pout and get all bent out of shape b/c someone wasn't speaking in a language and manner that you expect. Sorry, its called life.

Get over it.

I could care less what you do. Listen to me. I dont care. But regardless about what I say or do out here, you are, in reality, on your own. People here will come and go. But you know what? You are going to be working you fuckin ass off trying to put food on the table.

Not me, not his, not any of the memmebrs here is going to sit and let you live off their paycheck. So whatever you decide, its going to affect your life. You can be dumb or you can use smarts.

Most people want to buy that sports car in their 20s hang out, travel, be free and SETTLE DOWN LATER. You chose to settle down now.

So start acting like that 30-35y/o.... IN many cases, you get married, she wants you to get a larger car for the kids and lose the sportscar, stop the riding so much or completely as its dangerous and they don't want to lose you and so on.

Guess what buddy, you decided to be a big man, so stop goofing around and be a man. Pay your bills, be careful, and plan for the kids fufutre. You are not living for you anymore.

You are going to spew sweat and tears from your face and brow working and saving. Trying to give your child a good future.


But what ever, the end justifies the means. If you want to be ignorant and stupid, then expect life to shove its foot up your ass.


ALSO,

QUICK FUKKIN WITH ME AND ACTUALLY PLAN A FUTURE FOR YOUR BABY. Damn, you should be thinking about the baby and your fuckin life. Again, your priorities are all messed up. getting huffy with my posts of truth. but yet wait when that baby cries its ass off all night. You have to go to work and await tons of bills and this screaming goes on for extended periods.

If youare serious, and I think he is, and get BENT out of shape. Then admits that he's been trashing my thread b/c of my opinion of "raising kids is not a cakewalk and takes responsibility" then he's headed for a mental break down as he is not ready or mentally strong enough for such a load of responsibility.

My man, go do some praying. You're going to need it. And this person you called a "hippy" isn't going to be on welfare like the direction your headed b/.c you can;'t afford your own fuckin kid let alone plan a financial future. You don't even have a career oriented job and have a degree. we'll see who the burden on society is going to be and I don't foresee it being me. I am a man and take care of mine.

[Valeska]

UGH. Will the BOTH of you just STFU, drop your lil never-ending resolutionless verbal battle, and just agree to wait & see who gets to say "I told you so" for chrissakes??? Sheesh...