Disappointed with the new..... - Open Forum

SmurfKilla · 12-10-2004, 12:46 PM

Super Streetbike mag....Just picked it up today...Altho I luv'd the piece on Burnsday and Tony D.....great article....I thought the rest of it was a bit weak..especially the FULL BLOWN ICON add which was over 20 pages...

Sorry guys but I have every issue of this to date and felt this one just dropped the ball...

Cheers

SK

NovaMan · 12-10-2004, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmurfKilla

I thought the rest of it was a bit weak..especially the FULL BLOWN ICON add which was over 20 pages...

Sorry guys but I have every issue of this to date and felt this one just dropped the ball...

Cheers

SK

20 page advertisment!? that sucks

SmurfKilla · 12-10-2004, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NovaMan

20 page advertisment!? that sucks

Man i was brutal to wade thru that crap......

shiphteey · 12-10-2004, 01:06 PM

That was the first time I bought that mag too. The cover w/the busa got me but....yeah a little too much...they could have fit all that on 1 or 2 pages.

But the shoes are pretty cool.

Ali

-MXD- · 12-10-2004, 01:08 PM

i actually liked the icon add, it showed what was new for the year and its not like it took 20 pages away from the magazine. it was like a little bonus. maybe they could have had a little mini mag for just the icon gear, but other than that it was cool. its better than cycle world

Regstunts · 12-10-2004, 01:18 PM

SSB was weak this month, I agree. The Tony D articles have been great (the australia trip was in last issue) As for the ICON advertising, it was a bit much, but if you can buy 30 pages to advertise the so be it.

I am totally sick of these gawd-awful looking 'custom' bikes they have been feauturing. Everything chromed, every and any bell and whistle bolted on, and a lavendar paint job doens't make a nice bike!!!!

roadrasher · 12-10-2004, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DNFstar

SSB was weak this month, I agree. The Tony D articles have been great (the australia trip was in last issue) As for the ICON advertising, it was a bit much, but if you can buy 30 pages to advertise the so be it.

I am totally sick of these gawd-awful looking 'custom' bikes they have been feauturing. Everything chromed, every and any bell and whistle bolted on, and a lavendar paint job doens't make a nice bike!!!!

What kind of bikes would you like to see?

Regstunts · 12-10-2004, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by roadrasher

What kind of bikes would you like to see?

Chrome is fine, but the paint jobs are too much. I like clean simple designs, or stock paint schemes. If you have to go elaborite with airbrushed everything, then black frame/swing arm/wheels dims it back down a bit. I notice that alot of these guys are bolting on too many off-the-shelf parts, and they all start to look the same.

Examples of what I like is Greggs customs R1; thats a tastefull bike, or something liek Joe Browns ride. Simple 2 colour paint, and all the steel whited out. Looks classy.

watermanR6 · 12-10-2004, 04:23 PM

i agree about the custom "blinged" bikes in SSB. i don't think i've seen one in there and said "wow, that paint job looks awesome." case in point the "chucky" and "freddy" themed bikes. i don't know, maybe it's just because i don't like a bike with a theme on it or everything chromed out. plus, you can only look at so many chromed and stretched Busa's before they start to get old.

Regstunts · 12-10-2004, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by watermanR6

i agree about the custom "blinged" bikes in SSB. i don't think i've seen one in there and said "wow, that paint job looks awesome." case in point the "chucky" and "freddy" themed bikes. i don't know, maybe it's just because i don't like a bike with a theme on it or everything chromed out. plus, you can only look at so many chromed and stretched Busa's before they start to get old.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!! The worst part about the freddy bike, was that he didn't even look somewhat real. Totally carttonish!!!!! And who rakes out a busa, really ?

SmurfKilla · 12-10-2004, 04:48 PM

Well I can def say that down south there are a freakin ton of stretched out, raked, bling'd and whatever else BUSA's..The Busa is a great 1/4 mile street race / drag bike..but some of these designs are just to much..

Also I understand that adds in a mag are a way of generating much needed revenue..I got no problem with that..but it just felt that this new issue of SSB was one big icon add with a couple of interesting articles..

Cheers

SK

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Originally Posted by DNFstar

Thank you!!!!!!!!!! The worst part about the freddy bike, was that he didn't even look somewhat real. Totally carttonish!!!!! And who rakes out a busa, really ?

FOTOgrapher · 12-10-2004, 05:09 PM

People seem to over look the significance of the Icon ad, having Icon drop that much money to run an ad of that size shows that the stunt market and customizing market are growing. Seeing Icon step forward and show support is a great thing; but to see their efforts looked down upon will not help the magazine or sport grow. Instead of coming on here and badmouthing some of the limited supports, Super Streetbike and Icon, the stunt riders have; why don’t you give suggestions on what you would like to see.

Also the magazine isn’t tailored to just stunt riders. There are a lot of people reading the magazine that like the custom bikes. These people put a lot of work into their bikes and should get exposure for their work. I don’t like all of them but I respect the work they put into them.

The magazine can’t be personalized for each person’s specific taste. If more people give feed back, it will help the magazine grow.

Just dropping some knowledge on you, take it for what it is worth.

DAV

GundamnitPete · 12-10-2004, 05:18 PM

I agree with foto.

You can't have the custom bikes be only what you like

I like flat blakc EVERYTHING, and performance parts ONLY. Like one of GR's bikes, but that's me, and my idea of a custom bike. When i see a chromed out, extended swingarm busa, I'm sure not gonna trash it, to much work and to much time put into it. Even though EVERYONE does the busa, each one is a work of art, and each diserves it's own respect.

On a side note, I thought the 20 pages wasn't TOO bad. If you don't wanna read it, flip ahead.

SoCalRPM · 12-10-2004, 05:24 PM

Also keep in mind for all the chromed out trick bits, there's a company that sells them. Hopefully, by showing a chromed out, slammed bike, and a place that sells the parts, the magazine helps connect the two.

As far as the Icon ad, I'd like to say THANK YOU to Icon for supporting the sport. There isn't many big companies putting their money up like that.

Then next time I'm going to buy some gear, I'm going to look at who supports what I'm into.

On another note, I write some of those stories on the custom bikes. WHat type of bikes would you like to see featured.

SmurfKilla · 12-10-2004, 05:41 PM

First of all I have supported SSB since its first edition and will continue to do so.
2nd I BOUGHT the mag and expressed my displeasure with it...I also took the time to acknowledge the Burns day article...But did I enjoy flipping thru the 20 plus pages of Icon adds when i was hoping to see more articles about the stunt and bike scene no I did not....You say I should of had some suggestions on how to make the mag better...Well I thought I did just that....In case you missed it...less ICON adds would of been nice.
I got no problem with adds in the mag, of course all support aimed at the stunt world is welcome...BUT I thought the icon section was HUGE overkill and for me killed the flow of the mag...I bought it, read it and was simply giving some critical feedback. I never told anyone to not buy it.

SK

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Originally Posted by foto

People seem to over look the significance of the Icon ad, having Icon drop that much money to run an ad of that size shows that the stunt market and customizing market are growing. Seeing Icon step forward and show support is a great thing; but to see their efforts looked down upon will not help the magazine or sport grow. Instead of coming on here and badmouthing some of the limited supports, Super Streetbike and Icon, the stunt riders have; why don’t you give suggestions on what you would like to see.

Also the magazine isn’t tailored to just stunt riders. There are a lot of people reading the magazine that like the custom bikes. These people put a lot of work into their bikes and should get exposure for their work. I don’t like all of them but I respect the work they put into them.

The magazine can’t be personalized for each person’s specific taste. If more people give feed back, it will help the magazine grow.

Just dropping some knowledge on you, take it for what it is worth.

DAV

R1Aaron · 12-10-2004, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NovaMan

20 page advertisment!? that sucks

Actually, the Icon ad was 48 pages.

After a year of pushing this magazine we've learned one thing: 98-percent of advertisers and potential advertisers (ie, the people that make it possible to produce this magazine) effin' hate stunting and wish it would forever go away. Ironically, Icon is one of the two percent that doesn't hate stunting... Those same 98-percent of potential advertisers almost universally love custom sportbikes, because each one of those blinged-out 'Busas that everyone loves to hate represents a person who has spent anywhere from $30K-$60K of his or her hard-earned cash in the motorcycle industry. Advertisers want to reach those people--most of them could give a sh*t about reaching broke-a** stunters...

Until stunters and stunt fans start spending cash like that there is no way this industry will ever support a stand-alone stunt magazine, so if you like reading any stunt content at all on the newsstand you're just going to have to choke down the occasional circus-freak Busa.

Sorry kids, just droppin' some reality,

Aaron Frank
Editor in Chief, Super Streetbike

FOTOgrapher · 12-10-2004, 05:57 PM

Smurfkilla my post wasn’t directed to you specifically, it was for the masses. I grasped the concept of you not liking the Icon ad, I also grasped the concept of it being your opinion.

Dav

BILL50 · 12-10-2004, 06:01 PM

i thinks it cool to have the chrome bike and stuntin in the same mag

it would be tight if people stunted some of those custom bikes

like that pm busa wheelie that was fresh

serslyfkdup · 12-10-2004, 06:10 PM

get 2 wheel tuner instead,they got the same bikes and articles more girls less ads and hey it was free this year.

forcefedfreak · 12-10-2004, 06:11 PM

Yeah **** all the custom bikes they suck, I would like to see some pictures of some clean streetfighter conversions. BTW DNF I see you reppin the bubb rubb above your avatar...PIMP SHIT!

12-10-2004, 12:46 PM	#1
SmurfKilla Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa Canada Age: Bike: GSXR1000 Gender: Male Posts: 1,813	Disappointed with the new..... Super Streetbike mag....Just picked it up today...Altho I luv'd the piece on Burnsday and Tony D.....great article....I thought the rest of it was a bit weak..especially the FULL BLOWN ICON add which was over 20 pages... Sorry guys but I have every issue of this to date and felt this one just dropped the ball... Cheers SK

12-10-2004, 01:06 PM	#4
shiphteey Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Northern VA Age: 31 Bike: ZX-12R and F2 Gender: Male Posts: 71	Re: Disappointed with the new..... That was the first time I bought that mag too. The cover w/the busa got me but....yeah a little too much...they could have fit all that on 1 or 2 pages. But the shoes are pretty cool. Ali

12-10-2004, 01:08 PM	#5
-MXD- I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: cali Age: Bike: 00 750, 03 750 xr50 Gender: Male Posts: 3,564	Re: Disappointed with the new..... i actually liked the icon add, it showed what was new for the year and its not like it took 20 pages away from the magazine. it was like a little bonus. maybe they could have had a little mini mag for just the icon gear, but other than that it was cool. its better than cycle world __________________ www.mxdcages.com www.socalstunts.com www.sicriders.com www.mikey-d.net www.stuntersinc.com tony - faultline/fsp dont be a cheap bastard, contribute your $10 to stuntlife today

12-10-2004, 01:18 PM	#6
Regstunts DNFstunt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Mississauga, Ontario Age: 25 Bike: ZX10R Gender: Male Posts: 4,506	Re: Disappointed with the new..... SSB was weak this month, I agree. The Tony D articles have been great (the australia trip was in last issue) As for the ICON advertising, it was a bit much, but if you can buy 30 pages to advertise the so be it. I am totally sick of these gawd-awful looking 'custom' bikes they have been feauturing. Everything chromed, every and any bell and whistle bolted on, and a lavendar paint job doens't make a nice bike!!!! __________________ The Sticker Guy

12-10-2004, 04:23 PM	#9
watermanR6 Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: MA Age: 27 Bike: 04 R6, 04 CRF50 Gender: Male Posts: 24	Re: Disappointed with the new..... i agree about the custom "blinged" bikes in SSB. i don't think i've seen one in there and said "wow, that paint job looks awesome." case in point the "chucky" and "freddy" themed bikes. i don't know, maybe it's just because i don't like a bike with a theme on it or everything chromed out. plus, you can only look at so many chromed and stretched Busa's before they start to get old.

12-10-2004, 05:09 PM	#12
FOTOgrapher I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: tampa Age: 29 Bike: ... Gender: Male Posts: 1,392	Re: Disappointed with the new..... People seem to over look the significance of the Icon ad, having Icon drop that much money to run an ad of that size shows that the stunt market and customizing market are growing. Seeing Icon step forward and show support is a great thing; but to see their efforts looked down upon will not help the magazine or sport grow. Instead of coming on here and badmouthing some of the limited supports, Super Streetbike and Icon, the stunt riders have; why don’t you give suggestions on what you would like to see. Also the magazine isn’t tailored to just stunt riders. There are a lot of people reading the magazine that like the custom bikes. These people put a lot of work into their bikes and should get exposure for their work. I don’t like all of them but I respect the work they put into them. The magazine can’t be personalized for each person’s specific taste. If more people give feed back, it will help the magazine grow. Just dropping some knowledge on you, take it for what it is worth. DAV __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness.

12-10-2004, 05:18 PM	#13
GundamnitPete Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: detroit, MI Age: 19 Bike: 92 CBR 600 F2, 06 Diamondback Response Gender: Male Posts: 11,781	Re: Disappointed with the new..... I agree with foto. You can't have the custom bikes be only what you like I like flat blakc EVERYTHING, and performance parts ONLY. Like one of GR's bikes, but that's me, and my idea of a custom bike. When i see a chromed out, extended swingarm busa, I'm sure not gonna trash it, to much work and to much time put into it. Even though EVERYONE does the busa, each one is a work of art, and each diserves it's own respect. On a side note, I thought the 20 pages wasn't TOO bad. If you don't wanna read it, flip ahead.

12-10-2004, 05:24 PM	#14
SoCalRPM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal, CA Age: 34 Bike: What ever I can steal from the press cage, ZX-6, R1 and 2 Fiddies Gender: Male Posts: 663	Re: Disappointed with the new..... Also keep in mind for all the chromed out trick bits, there's a company that sells them. Hopefully, by showing a chromed out, slammed bike, and a place that sells the parts, the magazine helps connect the two. As far as the Icon ad, I'd like to say THANK YOU to Icon for supporting the sport. There isn't many big companies putting their money up like that. Then next time I'm going to buy some gear, I'm going to look at who supports what I'm into. On another note, I write some of those stories on the custom bikes. WHat type of bikes would you like to see featured. __________________ See what's happenin on the West Side!!! [url]http://www.socalrpm.com[/url]

12-10-2004, 05:57 PM	#17
FOTOgrapher I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: tampa Age: 29 Bike: ... Gender: Male Posts: 1,392	Re: Disappointed with the new..... Smurfkilla my post wasn’t directed to you specifically, it was for the masses. I grasped the concept of you not liking the Icon ad, I also grasped the concept of it being your opinion. Dav __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness.

12-10-2004, 06:01 PM	#18
BILL50 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: LOUISIANA Age: 21 Bike: FIDDY Gender: Male Posts: 1,004	Re: Disappointed with the new..... i thinks it cool to have the chrome bike and stuntin in the same mag it would be tight if people stunted some of those custom bikes like that pm busa wheelie that was fresh

12-10-2004, 06:10 PM	#19
serslyfkdup Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ohio Age: Bike: zx9r Gender: Male Posts: 141	Re: Disappointed with the new..... get 2 wheel tuner instead,they got the same bikes and articles more girls less ads and hey it was free this year.

12-10-2004, 06:11 PM	#20
forcefedfreak Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Concord, NH Age: 23 Bike: Suzuki SV650S Gender: Male Posts: 710	Re: Disappointed with the new..... Yeah **** all the custom bikes they suck, I would like to see some pictures of some clean streetfighter conversions. BTW DNF I see you reppin the bubb rubb above your avatar...PIMP SHIT!