Battle of the cages poll. Who makes the best and why? - Page 3 - Stunt Discussion Polls Forum

weirdsteve · 10-22-2003, 04:08 PM

I normally would get in earlier on this shit but anyway I dropped my 929 no less than 12 times in the last 2 days and my FI cage held up fine. Shit, I F*ck up and drop so much now my friends don't even bother to help pick up my bike anymore.F*ckers!!!

Pat-trick · 10-22-2003, 06:00 PM

i dont ride for p.o.b. anymore. and i dont work for freestyle ingenuity.

but i still use a F.I. cage . the new cages that tim has built is perfect. i learned circles on it. i ve hit the ground at least 75-100 times and it dose not move. highsides, lowsides, hit the ground at 5 mph up to 40 mph and it dose not budge.

i would not run anything else.

T.J THUG · 10-23-2003, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gsxr7502001
no bro i was selling my friends cage for him. its and r6 and i dont like my cage to be honest with you. i got permanent bruises on my shin cuz of that shit and i dropped a stoppie at around 25-30 and the cage is all loose now. rattles like a bitch. i have a 750 not an r6. i do speak truth, you need to read the details better bro. and i said the cage was in good shape, like no scratches & shit like that.

like i said before, 905 cages are good but mxd are better. all cages are good for the most part. ive had them all, the FI on my f4i and the 905 on my gsxr. so dont try callin my out when i havent said anything.

I know a lot more than u think I do. I won't clown u just yet, We know who u are and what you have said and done. Keep it real and u won't have thes type of issues.............ok bro....

SmurfKilla · 10-23-2003, 01:32 AM

Man that sux....Tim is building new stronger cages after I have already bought one cage and a replacement lower cage for my setup...
Bad timing on my part I guess.....
SK

-MXD- · 10-23-2003, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by T.J THUG
I know a lot more than u think I do. I won't clown u just yet, We know who u are and what you have said and done. Keep it real and u won't have thes type of issues.............ok bro....

how am i not keeping it real? ive sent you guys plenty of biz so why are you tryin to start shit? everyone that has hit me up so far ive sent to you guys so i wouldnt start talkin shit about keeping it real. all ive said is truth. where have i lied? i dont have any issues....ok bro. maybe you should chill cuz you dont know me for shit

gmantci · 10-24-2003, 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmurfKilla
Man that sux....Tim is building new stronger cages after I have already bought one cage and a replacement lower cage for my setup...
Bad timing on my part I guess.....
SK

First off, I voted FI all the way. Saved my plastic twice. Anyway SK, sounds like perfect timing.... All of the FI components are interchangeable, so you can upgrade for less than the cost of an entire cage when they make improvements. Something everyone should keep in mind. NO MATTER HOW MUCH RESEARCH IS PUT INTO A PRODUCT, ANY NEW PRODUCT WILL UNDERGO IMPROVEMENTS AS TIME GOES BY. I'm not a big stunner or anything, but it seems that FI is improving their product as they obtain information from people that use FI products. There seems to be alot of FI bashing when (from what I read on this forum as well as others) they are the ones that started development and sales of cages nationwide. Was the first software package Microsoft developed the perfect one? Something to ponder....

phqyou2 · 10-25-2003, 03:04 AM

it sounds like all of you are timpermental BITCHS.
back to back post ,o- I must of forget something to say,because my head is so far up my ass...........RETARDS..... step up or get lost

its all .....................FREESTYLE INGINUITY

wrink · 10-25-2003, 12:53 PM

My 905 cage has taken some hard ass falls, and each time I was still able to ride after it. The customer service there is excellent, any problems and they will take care of you.

NoNameStunter · 10-25-2003, 06:31 PM

my FI cage is the old version and I was able to learn all the slow stuff with it. The cage is demolished but my bike is alright, except for one of the dog ears that connect the subframe to the main frame, but that might of been my fault.

DSOG Thomas · 10-26-2003, 01:26 AM

I vote for whoever gives me a cage

STARBOYZ FRAME SLIDERS ALL THE WAY!!!

CRAZY DAN · 10-26-2003, 01:50 AM

my king kong O.G. frame sliders have done me well!!!!

TIM @ P.O.B. · 10-26-2003, 01:36 AM

Oh how I wish this could end. Please hear this. Stuntlife is a business and a public forum in which free speech is limited to where you are not supposed to use harsh language, slander, porn, and to remember that Shugga makes his money from what he advertises and sells through his stores. This allows us to have this place to converse. As far as my cages and other products go, can you for one minute blame me for protecting the idea and the place I spend a lot of money to advertise. I hear the word monopoly mentioned and there seems to be a few misconceptions. When I filed for the patents I submitted a few ideas to cover my bases and the concept along with every metal and a broad write up as to what that concept is. Because of the new nature of this patent if all goes well the government will protect that idea for twenty years and any attempt or configuration to do what FI started will be an infringement on that patent. (This is NO different from you trying to start a MC Donald's without buying the rights.) It was written to cover any configuration or different designs that you have seen. One of my original designs is very similar to what you have seen made by a few other companies and there are several reasons I chose not to manufacture those designs.

#1. In the way of the riders legs.
#2. when the cage bends (and they will all bend) the bolts that hold the cage in place are bent and when you try to remove those bent bolts from a cage that is completely welded nothing gives and that bent bolt rips the aluminum out of the head or mount.
#3. We have smacked curbs when ridding and half shell cages do NOT guard the undercarriage
#4. When you bend or grind through the cage you have to replace entire cage.
#5. Does not give ample room between bike and ground in the event the rider is caught underneath.
#6. The ability to repeat in manufacturing.
#7. Does NOT guard the upper, clip on, or levers as well.
#8. To Ridged has great potential for stress cracking the frame.
#9. Not aesthetically pleasing to the average rider that just wants to protect a common street bike.
#10 Because of rear mounts of cage it has greater potential of injuring rider in a fall.
#11. I ride too and these different designs were tested here In Texas a long time ago and the current design was overall the best.

The FI cages are not without fault but every day we are working to make things better and stronger without damage to the bike or rider. I have pro's all over testing the new ideas and giving constructive and honest feed back and we have a great set up because of it. To guy's and gal's who have purchased from us we have extended great appreciation and product assistance especially when a change in manufacturing occurred.

The one thing I ask is will you quit painting this horrible picture of what FI is because right now it just a couple of guy's who had a great idea and want make a living and ride.

Thanks
Tim Barnes
817-713-7948
Please feel free to call me or email me remembering that I will receive email here first tdaddybarnes@aol.com

*nags* · 10-27-2003, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TIM @ P.O.B.
Oh how I wish this could end. Please hear this. Stuntlife is a business and a public forum in which free speech is limited to where you are not supposed to use harsh language, slander, porn, and to remember that Shugga makes his money from what he advertises and sells through his stores. This allows us to have this place to converse. As far as my cages and other products go, can you for one minute blame me for protecting the idea and the place I spend a lot of money to advertise. I hear the word monopoly mentioned and there seems to be a few misconceptions. When I filed for the patents I submitted a few ideas to cover my bases and the concept along with every metal and a broad write up as to what that concept is. Because of the new nature of this patent if all goes well the government will protect that idea for twenty years and any attempt or configuration to do what FI started will be an infringement on that patent. (This is NO different from you trying to start a MC Donald's without buying the rights.) It was written to cover any configuration or different designs that you have seen. One of my original designs is very similar to what you have seen made by a few other companies and there are several reasons I chose not to manufacture those designs.

#1. In the way of the riders legs.
#2. when the cage bends (and they will all bend) the bolts that hold the cage in place are bent and when you try to remove those bent bolts from a cage that is completely welded nothing gives and that bent bolt rips the aluminum out of the head or mount.
#3. We have smacked curbs when ridding and half shell cages do NOT guard the undercarriage
#4. When you bend or grind through the cage you have to replace entire cage.
#5. Does not give ample room between bike and ground in the event the rider is caught underneath.
#6. The ability to repeat in manufacturing.
#7. Does NOT guard the upper, clip on, or levers as well.
#8. To Ridged has great potential for stress cracking the frame.
#9. Not aesthetically pleasing to the average rider that just wants to protect a common street bike.
#10 Because of rear mounts of cage it has greater potential of injuring rider in a fall.
#11. I ride too and these different designs were tested here In Texas a long time ago and the current design was overall the best.

The FI cages are not without fault but every day we are working to make things better and stronger without damage to the bike or rider. I have pro's all over testing the new ideas and giving constructive and honest feed back and we have a great set up because of it. To guy's and gal's who have purchased from us we have extended great appreciation and product assistance especially when a change in manufacturing occurred.

The one thing I ask is will you quit painting this horrible picture of what FI is because right now it just a couple of guy's who had a great idea and want make a living and ride.

Thanks
Tim Barnes
817-713-7948
Please feel free to call me or email me remembering that I will receive email here first tdaddybarnes@aol.com

ericgsxr · 10-27-2003, 03:42 PM

When I was at stuntfest, the off da chain stunta boyz had FI gear, and I saw some serious tumbles from them, and they would pick up the bikes and go on, I was freaking out!

I also saw a few boyz drag the 12 bars, which might be no big deal to some of the guys on here, but where I'm from, this is a new thing, and looked really sic.

There was ONE guy there that was in Sly Dogs stunt fest that was in the advanced group, and he looped during a highchair stoppie, and if you could see the damage it did to his bike you wouldn't even thing twice about putting a cage on your bike.

I was also in Dayton Ohio, Quaker Steak and Lube, for bike night, there was 2000 bikes there, and again I saw a few FI enhanced bikes. I decided that the workmanship of the bars and cages looked really good, so I asked around and got the web site for FI. I then talked to Tim and he couldn't have been nicer about offering up advice. Anybody can sell you motorcycle parts, but to call up a company and have a guy answer the phone that can ride 20 mile wheelies, and then converse with you about it for 1/2 hour, is way above and beyond the call of duty. Based on looks of the product, Tim's personable behaivior, and mostly based on watching the bikes at Sly dogs stuntfest get up again and again, I'm going to have to say FI all the way.

ericgsxr · 10-27-2003, 03:44 PM

When I was at stuntfest, the off da chain stunta boyz had FI gear, and I saw some serious tumbles from them, and they would pick up the bikes and go on, I was freaking out!

I also saw a few boyz drag the 12 bars, which might be no big deal to some of the guys on here, but where I'm from, this is a new thing, and looked really sic.

There was ONE guy there that was in Sly Dogs stunt fest that was in the advanced group, no cage or 12 bar, and he looped during a highchair stoppie, and if you could see the damage it did to his bike you wouldn't even thing twice about putting a cage on your bike.

I was also in Dayton Ohio, Quaker Steak and Lube, for bike night, there was 2000 bikes there, and again I saw a few FI enhanced bikes. I decided that the workmanship of the bars and cages looked really good, so I asked around and got the web site for FI. I then talked to Tim and he couldn't have been nicer about offering up advice. Anybody can sell you motorcycle parts, but to call up a company and have a guy answer the phone that can ride 20 mile wheelies, and then converse with you about it for 1/2 hour, is way above and beyond the call of duty. Based on looks of the product, Tim's personable behaivior, and mostly based on watching the bikes at Sly dogs stuntfest get up again and again, I'm going to have to say FI all the way.

JPratt · 10-27-2003, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ericgsxr
Anybody can sell you motorcycle parts, but to call up a company and have a guy answer the phone that can ride 20 mile wheelies, and then converse with you about it for 1/2 hour, is way above and beyond the call of duty. Based on looks of the product, Tim's personable behaivior, and mostly based on watching the bikes at Sly dogs stuntfest get up again and again, I'm going to have to say FI all the way.

I was looking into other cages too, but after getting a call this morning from Tim. That made me rethink again about the cage. He's still in the process of making a cage for my 96-99 GSXR. I've always liked the design of F.I. cages. There have only been a few other cages that I've liked other than that one. One being the one the U.R. use. And the two new cages I've been looking at was the Metalmasters and MXD. And also Powerworx cages.

The pricing on the F.I. cage is the only complaint I have. But seeing how the cage can be taken off and just run the sliders,a nd all other parts being replacable make me keep leaning towards F.I.

Right now, it would really be a race between F.I. and MEtalmasters.

ocat · 10-27-2003, 05:06 PM

anyone got any links or pictures of the metal master cages?

JPratt · 10-27-2003, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ridemyf4i
anyone got any links or pictures of the metal master cages?

Talk the Redline Jimmy and Laura for the metalmaster pics.

D-UNIT dem xpt · 10-27-2003, 05:24 PM

me and all my friends build our own cages and bars.....yes they do break but not really anyhting on the bike does so they do the job....so far im on my 2nd bar and 2nd or 3rd cage(cant remember)and i have spent no more than 30-40 buks for all of it combined(thx big t

).....nobodies beatin that shit

E-DUB OM · 10-27-2003, 05:28 PM

who needs a cage

View Poll Results: Who has the best cages and why?
Freestyle Inginuity	160	36.61%
Racing 905	158	36.16%
Another company(Who?)	91	20.82%
I make my own(Pics attached)	28	6.41%
Voters: 437. You may not vote on this poll

10-22-2003, 04:08 PM	#41
weirdsteve Loving North Carolina Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: F-NAM, North Carolina Age: 29 Bike: 01 F4I, 02 F4I, 03 636 Gender: Male Posts: 3,067	I normally would get in earlier on this shit but anyway I dropped my 929 no less than 12 times in the last 2 days and my FI cage held up fine. Shit, I Fck up and drop so much now my friends don't even bother to help pick up my bike anymore.Fckers!!! __________________ Frank 6/03 You will always be the best Philly Stuntrider - I'll never forget you. www.myspace.com/weirdstevestunts

10-22-2003, 06:00 PM	#42
Pat-trick Stunt Pimp Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Ft.worth?Dallas ,TX Age: 27 Bike: a 929 i think and f41 Gender: Male Posts: 2,148	i dont ride for p.o.b. anymore. and i dont work for freestyle ingenuity. but i still use a F.I. cage . the new cages that tim has built is perfect. i learned circles on it. i ve hit the ground at least 75-100 times and it dose not move. highsides, lowsides, hit the ground at 5 mph up to 40 mph and it dose not budge. i would not run anything else. __________________ www.myspace.com/patrickstunts www.myspace.com/patrickthecomic www.patrickstephensfreestyle.com

10-25-2003, 03:04 AM	#47
phqyou2 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Huntington Beach, Ca Age: Bike: gsxr 750& zx6 Gender: Posts: 8	it sounds like all of you are timpermental BITCHS. back to back post ,o- I must of forget something to say,because my head is so far up my ass...........RETARDS..... step up or get lost its all .....................FREESTYLE INGINUITY __________________ if you do'nt try it at least one time you'll always be a SPECTATOR

10-25-2003, 12:53 PM	#48
wrink Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: socal Age: 35 Bike: 02 GSXR 750 Gender: Male Posts: 61	My 905 cage has taken some hard ass falls, and each time I was still able to ride after it. The customer service there is excellent, any problems and they will take care of you. __________________ www.section8st.com

10-23-2003, 01:32 AM	#44
SmurfKilla Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ottawa Canada Age: Bike: GSXR1000 Gender: Male Posts: 1,813	Man that sux....Tim is building new stronger cages after I have already bought one cage and a replacement lower cage for my setup... Bad timing on my part I guess..... SK

10-25-2003, 06:31 PM	#49
NoNameStunter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: anywhere concrete Age: Bike: GsXr 750 Gender: Posts: 89	my FI cage is the old version and I was able to learn all the slow stuff with it. The cage is demolished but my bike is alright, except for one of the dog ears that connect the subframe to the main frame, but that might of been my fault.

10-26-2003, 01:26 AM	#50
DSOG Thomas Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wherever the $$$ is Age: Bike: half as many as kane Gender: Male Posts: 5,858	I vote for whoever gives me a cage STARBOYZ FRAME SLIDERS ALL THE WAY!!! __________________ --Stuntride Magazine and Calendar-- www.stuntridemag.com --Forums-- www.stuntride.com

10-26-2003, 01:50 AM	#51
CRAZY DAN A Few Loose Screws - DVD Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Compton Age: 30 Bike: 06 kawi 636 Gender: Male Posts: 3,860	my king kong O.G. frame sliders have done me well!!!! __________________ Alpinestars Shoei Micron Michelin Vortex Ferodo Scotts Cheetah KC Trends Carrozzerria FI Products Full Throttle Inc Detroit Muscle Smithers Customs Fabtech Chux Trux JMI Sign

10-26-2003, 01:36 AM	#52
TIM @ P.O.B. P.O.B. Rider and F.I. Owner Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: alvarado Age: 41 Bike: 929 Gender: Posts: 114	Oh how I wish this could end. Please hear this. Stuntlife is a business and a public forum in which free speech is limited to where you are not supposed to use harsh language, slander, porn, and to remember that Shugga makes his money from what he advertises and sells through his stores. This allows us to have this place to converse. As far as my cages and other products go, can you for one minute blame me for protecting the idea and the place I spend a lot of money to advertise. I hear the word monopoly mentioned and there seems to be a few misconceptions. When I filed for the patents I submitted a few ideas to cover my bases and the concept along with every metal and a broad write up as to what that concept is. Because of the new nature of this patent if all goes well the government will protect that idea for twenty years and any attempt or configuration to do what FI started will be an infringement on that patent. (This is NO different from you trying to start a MC Donald's without buying the rights.) It was written to cover any configuration or different designs that you have seen. One of my original designs is very similar to what you have seen made by a few other companies and there are several reasons I chose not to manufacture those designs. #1. In the way of the riders legs. #2. when the cage bends (and they will all bend) the bolts that hold the cage in place are bent and when you try to remove those bent bolts from a cage that is completely welded nothing gives and that bent bolt rips the aluminum out of the head or mount. #3. We have smacked curbs when ridding and half shell cages do NOT guard the undercarriage #4. When you bend or grind through the cage you have to replace entire cage. #5. Does not give ample room between bike and ground in the event the rider is caught underneath. #6. The ability to repeat in manufacturing. #7. Does NOT guard the upper, clip on, or levers as well. #8. To Ridged has great potential for stress cracking the frame. #9. Not aesthetically pleasing to the average rider that just wants to protect a common street bike. #10 Because of rear mounts of cage it has greater potential of injuring rider in a fall. #11. I ride too and these different designs were tested here In Texas a long time ago and the current design was overall the best. The FI cages are not without fault but every day we are working to make things better and stronger without damage to the bike or rider. I have pro's all over testing the new ideas and giving constructive and honest feed back and we have a great set up because of it. To guy's and gal's who have purchased from us we have extended great appreciation and product assistance especially when a change in manufacturing occurred. The one thing I ask is will you quit painting this horrible picture of what FI is because right now it just a couple of guy's who had a great idea and want make a living and ride. Thanks Tim Barnes 817-713-7948 Please feel free to call me or email me remembering that I will receive email here first tdaddybarnes@aol.com __________________ Rubber side up!

10-27-2003, 03:42 PM	#54
ericgsxr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Greenville Ohio Age: 43 Bike: 98 VTR 1000 Gender: Male Posts: 794	FI bars and such When I was at stuntfest, the off da chain stunta boyz had FI gear, and I saw some serious tumbles from them, and they would pick up the bikes and go on, I was freaking out! I also saw a few boyz drag the 12 bars, which might be no big deal to some of the guys on here, but where I'm from, this is a new thing, and looked really sic. There was ONE guy there that was in Sly Dogs stunt fest that was in the advanced group, and he looped during a highchair stoppie, and if you could see the damage it did to his bike you wouldn't even thing twice about putting a cage on your bike. I was also in Dayton Ohio, Quaker Steak and Lube, for bike night, there was 2000 bikes there, and again I saw a few FI enhanced bikes. I decided that the workmanship of the bars and cages looked really good, so I asked around and got the web site for FI. I then talked to Tim and he couldn't have been nicer about offering up advice. Anybody can sell you motorcycle parts, but to call up a company and have a guy answer the phone that can ride 20 mile wheelies, and then converse with you about it for 1/2 hour, is way above and beyond the call of duty. Based on looks of the product, Tim's personable behaivior, and mostly based on watching the bikes at Sly dogs stuntfest get up again and again, I'm going to have to say FI all the way. __________________ It's not where you start that matters, it's where you end up...

10-27-2003, 03:44 PM	#55
ericgsxr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Greenville Ohio Age: 43 Bike: 98 VTR 1000 Gender: Male Posts: 794	FI bars and such When I was at stuntfest, the off da chain stunta boyz had FI gear, and I saw some serious tumbles from them, and they would pick up the bikes and go on, I was freaking out! I also saw a few boyz drag the 12 bars, which might be no big deal to some of the guys on here, but where I'm from, this is a new thing, and looked really sic. There was ONE guy there that was in Sly Dogs stunt fest that was in the advanced group, no cage or 12 bar, and he looped during a highchair stoppie, and if you could see the damage it did to his bike you wouldn't even thing twice about putting a cage on your bike. I was also in Dayton Ohio, Quaker Steak and Lube, for bike night, there was 2000 bikes there, and again I saw a few FI enhanced bikes. I decided that the workmanship of the bars and cages looked really good, so I asked around and got the web site for FI. I then talked to Tim and he couldn't have been nicer about offering up advice. Anybody can sell you motorcycle parts, but to call up a company and have a guy answer the phone that can ride 20 mile wheelies, and then converse with you about it for 1/2 hour, is way above and beyond the call of duty. Based on looks of the product, Tim's personable behaivior, and mostly based on watching the bikes at Sly dogs stuntfest get up again and again, I'm going to have to say FI all the way. __________________ It's not where you start that matters, it's where you end up...

10-27-2003, 05:06 PM	#57
ocat Regular StuntLifer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 25 Bike: F4i, pimp ass fiddy and a stock fiddy Gender: Male Posts: 586	anyone got any links or pictures of the metal master cages? __________________ Fortune Favors the Brave www.mxdcages.com <---

10-27-2003, 05:24 PM	#59
D-UNIT dem xpt Liv fr PEACE prpre fr WAR Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: . Age: 29 Bike: cbr f4(no I) Gender: Male Posts: 1,834	me and all my friends build our own cages and bars.....yes they do break but not really anyhting on the bike does so they do the job....so far im on my 2nd bar and 2nd or 3rd cage(cant remember)and i have spent no more than 30-40 buks for all of it combined(thx big t ).....nobodies beatin that shit

10-27-2003, 05:28 PM	#60
E-DUB OM AGGRESSION! Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: the ALB Age: 29 Bike: new gen shit Gender: Male Posts: 5,613	who needs a cage __________________ The Death Squad Movement is coming! www.avonmotorcycleusa.com www.kbchelmets.com www.freestyleingenuity.com