clutchless upshifting? - About Racing, For Racers

tys0n_rr · 01-12-2007, 02:11 AM

I was just wondering what the most proper way to clutchless upshift...i know you gotta have rpms up thats about it?

old man roger · 01-12-2007, 03:13 AM

pin it ,lift, shift ,pin it.....repeat when needed

Scott- · 01-14-2007, 02:09 AM

ya what he said just let off on the throttle a little then shift same as driven my peterbuilt at work

letsride · 01-14-2007, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KSFSTUNTER

ya what he said just let off on the throttle a little then shift same as driven my peterbuilt at work

what do you drive a tri axle?

old man roger · 01-14-2007, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KSFSTUNTER

ya what he said just let off on the throttle a little then shift same as driven my peterbuilt at work

i said ,pin it lift shift

Ed-o · 01-15-2007, 09:17 PM

Same way you would using the clutch.................................except..... .............dont use the cultch.

Scott- · 01-15-2007, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by letsride

what do you drive a tri axle?

yes a 3 axle truck and trailer its a tanker truck i haul fuel its got a 10 speed

hessogood · 01-17-2007, 10:49 AM

Put pressure on the shifter and blip the throttle and the transmission will pull it into gear. You can also put some pressure on the shifter and let the rev limiter kick it into gear on the first bounce like I do.

tys0n_rr · 01-21-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed-o

Same way you would using the clutch.................................except..... .............dont use the cultch.

yah i knew that i just wanted to make sure i wasnt gunna fu*k up the gear box when i started ripping thru the gears wit no clutch....

old man roger · 01-21-2007, 05:15 PM

just use the clutch for first to second , it is a big gear ratio difference

pigs01GSXR2 · 01-21-2007, 05:28 PM

Dont ever force it but blipn the Trottle will be key..I wanna get the clutchless up shifter from Power commander...

Ed-o · 01-26-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

just use the clutch for first to second , it is a big gear ratio difference

+1

Ed-o · 01-26-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tys0n_rr

yah i knew that i just wanted to make sure i wasnt gunna fu*k up the gear box when i started ripping thru the gears wit no clutch....

Ya they actually shift smoother w/o using the clutch, you wont hurt nothing. Just dont do it from 1st -2nd

bobthebiker · 02-05-2007, 06:29 PM

the key is being SMOOTH about it. put light pressure on the shifter, let off the throttle for a second and let it slide right into the next gear up, it should NOT require forcing, or grinding of any gears. like I said, smoothness is key.
if you know the sweet spot on your bike, I learned you can actually shift from first to second smoothly, but you gotta do it at a specific spot. at least it was possible on my old ninja 500.

fizzergixxer · 04-03-2007, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pigs01GSXR2

Dont ever force it but blipn the Trottle will be key..I wanna get the clutchless up shifter from Power commander...

Yeah its a good thing. I figured without that you lose about 2-3 bike lengths per shift on other guys that use it. Huge difference if you think about the amount of times you shift in a single lap.

Mr. Farley · 11-01-2007, 12:13 PM

Whenever I'm cruising I use my clutch, but when I'm racing I never use my clutch to upshit. But there is nothing like coming into a turn, clutch in, double click, match revs and back it into a turn! So much fun!!

Ziptied10R · 03-22-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Farley

Whenever I'm cruising I use my clutch, but when I'm racing I never use my clutch to upshit. But there is nothing like coming into a turn, clutch in, double click, match revs and back it into a turn! So much fun!!

You shit up?

Sytrept · 05-07-2008, 03:57 AM

Its easy and more fluid to do when you're giving more than 50% throttle, just chop the throttle to like 25% for .000000000001 seconds as you shift it and as soon your foot is done shifitng, put more gas.

EnderWiggin · 05-09-2008, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bobthebiker

the key is being SMOOTH about it. put light pressure on the shifter, let off the throttle for a second and let it slide right into the next gear up, it should NOT require forcing, or grinding of any gears. like I said, smoothness is key.
if you know the sweet spot on your bike, I learned you can actually shift from first to second smoothly, but you gotta do it at a specific spot. at least it was possible on my old ninja 500.

I believe my father can clutchless shift from 1st-2nd on his bike o.0

Danger_Dave · 05-11-2008, 11:07 AM

grinding gears is not what happens when you hear a clunk or grr sound. its the collar not engaging with the gear. the lack of synchronizers is what allows
you to clutchless shift without hurting anything. if you clutchless shift a tranny that has synchronizers and dont match the revs you can burn those out and not even notice because they shift so smoothly. not all bikes are unsynchronized. also do you notice how you need to goose it a little sometimes to downshift? this is all about matching the speeds of the collar, gear, and current speed of the output shaft.

01-12-2007, 02:11 AM	#1
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01-12-2007, 03:13 AM	#2
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01-21-2007, 05:28 PM	#11
pigs01GSXR2 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Boston/Palm Coast Age: Bike: 06 GSXR 1K,99 F4, 99 Formula 700 Gender: Male Posts: 1,034	Re: clutchless upshifting? Dont ever force it but blipn the Trottle will be key..I wanna get the clutchless up shifter from Power commander...

02-05-2007, 06:29 PM	#14
bobthebiker Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: New Port Richey, FL Age: Bike: 2000 XR80R Gender: Male Posts: 32	Re: clutchless upshifting? the key is being SMOOTH about it. put light pressure on the shifter, let off the throttle for a second and let it slide right into the next gear up, it should NOT require forcing, or grinding of any gears. like I said, smoothness is key. if you know the sweet spot on your bike, I learned you can actually shift from first to second smoothly, but you gotta do it at a specific spot. at least it was possible on my old ninja 500.

11-01-2007, 12:13 PM	#16
Mr. Farley Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 5280 Age: 26 Bike: PERFECTLY LEGAL BIKES, UNLIKE 904 HOMOS! Gender: Male Posts: 6,196	Re: clutchless upshifting? Whenever I'm cruising I use my clutch, but when I'm racing I never use my clutch to upshit. But there is nothing like coming into a turn, clutch in, double click, match revs and back it into a turn! So much fun!!

05-07-2008, 03:57 AM	#18
Sytrept Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NewportNowhere FL Age: Bike: . Gender: Male Posts: 3	Re: clutchless upshifting? Its easy and more fluid to do when you're giving more than 50% throttle, just chop the throttle to like 25% for .000000000001 seconds as you shift it and as soon your foot is done shifitng, put more gas.

05-11-2008, 11:07 AM	#20
Danger_Dave Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: FLORIDA !!! tryin to ride call me Age: 25 Bike: F4i lotbike, Crf50 stoppie madness Gender: Male Posts: 2,091	Re: clutchless upshifting? grinding gears is not what happens when you hear a clunk or grr sound. its the collar not engaging with the gear. the lack of synchronizers is what allows you to clutchless shift without hurting anything. if you clutchless shift a tranny that has synchronizers and dont match the revs you can burn those out and not even notice because they shift so smoothly. not all bikes are unsynchronized. also do you notice how you need to goose it a little sometimes to downshift? this is all about matching the speeds of the collar, gear, and current speed of the output shaft.