Cluching it up in second on a goat

kalicodatdude · 07-02-2009, 04:22 PM

I got a 2000 Zx6r(My peoples call it a goat cause its older than all of theres) and I cant get it up in second

, do I have to change my sprocket

, or is there a way for me to pop it in second with with stock sprocket? Easy Easy im a newbie!

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TongWoo · 07-02-2009, 04:36 PM

Search "clutch"

zombiearrrjay · 07-03-2009, 02:09 AM

Yes sir! I have a 03 zx6rr and i couldn't get it up in 2nd either from clutching alone.

You need to try the "bounce clutch" method. It's extremely simple, but people sometimes make it sound a lot harder than it actually is. I was scared to try it for a while cause people said it is unpredictable and difficult to time right, but after trying it three times (literally) i figured it out and my 2nd gear wheelie problems were solved.

Pretty much all you do is push down hard on the front suspension and when it recoils you drop the clutch like a normal clutch wheelie. The force of the forks rebounding up gives you the momentum needed to bring the bike all the way up.

So rolling at 40 to 50 in 2nd, in one quick moment you pull in the clutch, give it gas and at the same time push down on the handlebars, then as soon as you push down on them drop the clutch like a normal clutch wheelie.

If you look around on you tube you will find a bunch of examples. I do this staggered by the way so my weight is further back.

kalicodatdude · 07-03-2009, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zombiearrrjay

Yes sir! I have a 03 zx6rr and i couldn't get it up in 2nd either from clutching alone.

You need to try the "bounce clutch" method. It's extremely simple, but people sometimes make it sound a lot harder than it actually is. I was scared to try it for a while cause people said it is unpredictable and difficult to time right, but after trying it three times (literally) i figured it out and my 2nd gear wheelie problems were solved.

Pretty much all you do is push down hard on the front suspension and when it recoils you drop the clutch like a normal clutch wheelie. The force of the forks rebounding up gives you the momentum needed to bring the bike all the way up.

So rolling at 40 to 50 in 2nd, in one quick moment you pull in the clutch, give it gas and at the same time push down on the handlebars, then as soon as you push down on them drop the clutch like a normal clutch wheelie.

If you look around on you tube you will find a bunch of examples. I do this staggered by the way so my weight is further back.

Good looking brotha

, thats how i do my standing wheelies, i push down on the forks after getting off the gas and when they come up give it everything. The people over @ sprocket center told me to go -1, +4 and ill be able to clutch it up in second and third with no problem, but I dont know if Im going to lose an outrageous amount of top end

old man roger · 07-03-2009, 05:20 AM

you will loose top end

WolfmanJack · 07-03-2009, 06:02 AM

Yep, like OMR said you will loose top end. . .but any idiot can fly down the HW at 180. Rolling down the HW on the back wheel looks waaaaay better (if you know what your doing of course!) I am -1 +5 and I ride all day on the HW, it's not bad dude. The small loss of top end is worth it!

old man roger · 07-03-2009, 06:04 AM

he's on a carbed zx6 , he will be getting beat by moms in mini vans top end ..lol

WolfmanJack · 07-03-2009, 06:11 AM

Lol. . .that sucks! Loose the goat and get a Honda dude. . .I'm bais of course.

kalicodatdude · 07-03-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WolfmanJack

Lol. . .that sucks! Loose the goat and get a Honda dude. . .I'm bais of course.

I cant front if I was on a honda i would be bias too

But still and all I got to deal with what i got to deal with. What could i do to not lose that much top end and still get it up in second, until i can get rid of the goat?

kalicodatdude · 07-03-2009, 04:23 PM

The way yall are talking i guess i shouldnt invest in that cage I was thinking about

kalicodatdude · 07-03-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old man roger

he's on a carbed zx6 , he will be getting beat by moms in mini vans top end ..lol

Damn! really that slow

OnEWhEeLNEAL · 07-03-2009, 05:59 PM

In one thread youre asking for tips about how to train yourself to use the rear brake and in another youre asking how to pop it up in 2nd at higher speeds. Learn 1st gear and brake control before you start moving and hurt yourself. And PRACTICE. Asking a million questions aint gonna get you the confidence to go out and do it

And READ. These questions have been asked a million times already and theres a million threads already asking the same exact question.

kalicodatdude · 07-04-2009, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnEWhEeLNEAL

In one thread youre asking for tips about how to train yourself to use the rear brake and in another youre asking how to pop it up in 2nd at higher speeds. Learn 1st gear and brake control before you start moving and hurt yourself. And PRACTICE. Asking a million questions aint gonna get you the confidence to go out and do it

And READ. These questions have been asked a million times already and theres a million threads already asking the same exact question.

All Points Well Taken

07-02-2009, 04:36 PM	#2
TongWoo Came back-it's still wack Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Roanoke, VA Bike: 2007 600RR Gender: Male Posts: 2,858	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat Search "clutch"

07-03-2009, 02:09 AM	#3
zombiearrrjay Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Omaha, NE Bike: 2003 zx6rr Gender: Male Posts: 43	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat Yes sir! I have a 03 zx6rr and i couldn't get it up in 2nd either from clutching alone. You need to try the "bounce clutch" method. It's extremely simple, but people sometimes make it sound a lot harder than it actually is. I was scared to try it for a while cause people said it is unpredictable and difficult to time right, but after trying it three times (literally) i figured it out and my 2nd gear wheelie problems were solved. Pretty much all you do is push down hard on the front suspension and when it recoils you drop the clutch like a normal clutch wheelie. The force of the forks rebounding up gives you the momentum needed to bring the bike all the way up. So rolling at 40 to 50 in 2nd, in one quick moment you pull in the clutch, give it gas and at the same time push down on the handlebars, then as soon as you push down on them drop the clutch like a normal clutch wheelie. If you look around on you tube you will find a bunch of examples. I do this staggered by the way so my weight is further back.

07-03-2009, 05:20 AM	#5
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 70,281	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat you will loose top end __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!! The original folding peg subcage

07-03-2009, 06:02 AM	#6
WolfmanJack STILL ON PROBATION! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio Bike: 04 600RR Gender: Male Posts: 293	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat Yep, like OMR said you will loose top end. . .but any idiot can fly down the HW at 180. Rolling down the HW on the back wheel looks waaaaay better (if you know what your doing of course!) I am -1 +5 and I ride all day on the HW, it's not bad dude. The small loss of top end is worth it!

07-03-2009, 06:04 AM	#7
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 70,281	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat he's on a carbed zx6 , he will be getting beat by moms in mini vans top end ..lol __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!! The original folding peg subcage

07-03-2009, 06:11 AM	#8
WolfmanJack STILL ON PROBATION! Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: San Antonio Bike: 04 600RR Gender: Male Posts: 293	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat Lol. . .that sucks! Loose the goat and get a Honda dude. . .I'm bais of course.

07-03-2009, 04:23 PM	#10
kalicodatdude Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: BX ,New York Bike: kawasaki zx6 Gender: Male Posts: 56	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat The way yall are talking i guess i shouldnt invest in that cage I was thinking about

07-03-2009, 05:59 PM	#12
OnEWhEeLNEAL 本田驱逐舰 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 纽约皇后区，美国 Age: 33 Bike: 本田 Gender: Male Posts: 30,968	Re: Cluching it up in second on a goat In one thread youre asking for tips about how to train yourself to use the rear brake and in another youre asking how to pop it up in 2nd at higher speeds. Learn 1st gear and brake control before you start moving and hurt yourself. And PRACTICE. Asking a million questions aint gonna get you the confidence to go out and do it And READ. These questions have been asked a million times already and theres a million threads already asking the same exact question.