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mdub4life29 · 09-12-2009, 04:39 PM

^^ lol

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herestolife1000 · 10-03-2009, 12:45 PM

i just saved a few pictures, took the laptop to the garage and used those to work with

anyways i realized that (at least on my bike) it's not a 1/2 inch t, it's a 1/2 inch t INSERT. the insert means that it fits into a 1/2 inch opening, while the 1/2 inch t has 1/2 inch openings on all sides

so i had to tape up the T pretty ghetto like, anyways

i didn't notice any real difference, if anything (maybe) the low rpm's were a bit smoother when taking off

and how does it make sense that there is a vacuum but no pressure? any kind of vacuum will create pressure if the air has nowhere to release it self?

old man roger · 10-03-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by anti-social

so how do you do this klean mod . What is a t valve? Will this mod cause the motor to blow up? ..................................................

i'm doin this to my bike right now & yes this thread has all the info you will need . You lazy non reading readers .

old man roger · 10-03-2009, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herestolife1000

i just saved a few pictures, took the laptop to the garage and used those to work with

anyways i realized that (at least on my bike) it's not a 1/2 inch t, it's a 1/2 inch t INSERT. the insert means that it fits into a 1/2 inch opening, while the 1/2 inch t has 1/2 inch openings on all sides

so i had to tape up the T pretty ghetto like, anyways

i didn't notice any real difference, if anything (maybe) the low rpm's were a bit smoother when taking off

and how does it make sense that there is a vacuum but no pressure? any kind of vacuum will create pressure if the air has nowhere to release it self?

had you read the thread you would know there is a place for the air to release through the reed valves in your valve cover to the exhaust ..

herestolife1000 · 10-03-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old man roger

had you read the thread you would know there is a place for the air to release through the reed valves in your valve cover to the exhaust ..

my bad

mdub4life29 · 10-03-2009, 09:34 PM

dee dee dee come on fellas use your school skills and read

PazUp · 10-15-2009, 02:05 PM

doo doo do you think I know the product? No. Do I sort of know the generic PAIR system, D'uh!

D'uh, I know dis much: For every action dare is an equal reaction; so say the crank and air cleaner are a matched set. Say you plumb the crankcase to the PAIR. Say, you dump a bunch of oil down the exhaust and that is going to cook some oil into carbon that is going to close the air reed down, possibly.

All of a sudden you have crank and counter shaft sprocket seals backing up; the vent goes closed.

I'd service or at least look over my reeds I start to re-plumb the bike. Next is that noise you keep hearing? I'm going to guess the pulse is getting a miss-read on the PAIR electric gate, and semi defaults to the backup.

Without hearing the noise, that is my guess. You feel some bottom grunt, but what you feel is the "backup" is Kawi terms and Suz says the "fail-safe" is their legal term for the same generic. So, do we spike the hack to the bottom grunt with a faster set ignition map?
Hummmmmmmmmm....Interesting.

adichino · 10-20-2009, 08:48 AM

can I do this mod to my carbed F4 ? anyone tried?

birdie · 10-20-2009, 11:09 AM

what is an f4i???
what is an airbox???
what is air???
what is a t-valve???
what is 1/2 inch???

Towlieee · 10-20-2009, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PazUp

D'uh, I know dis much: For every action dare is an equal reaction

The reaction you get is polluting the environment, and not hydrolocking your motor, while possibly picking up a little power.

I have probably over 15k on my bike with my clean air mod, actually never even ONCE dumped oil into my exhaust yet somehow

And this is on my 35k mile f4i

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 02:47 PM

dont listen to paz .

adichino · 10-20-2009, 05:00 PM

so no one tried on a carbed F4 ?
OMR you are the brain in this thread, share some thoughts

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adichino

so no one tried on a carbed F4 ?
OMR you are the brain in this thread, share some thoughts

if it has a pair valve and reed valves in the valve cover then it will work .

adichino · 10-20-2009, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old man roger

if it has a pair valve and reed valves in the valve cover then it will work .

this is how its on the carbed f4

maybe just dump the crankcase breather hose and fill up the hole with something ? it goes into the airbox

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 05:24 PM

cant really tell from that picture , i would need to see it in person to see where every thing goes but yes bypassing the air box is always a good idea so the crank case vent tube cant put oil in the air box

adichino · 10-20-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old man roger

cant really tell from that picture , i would need to see it in person to see where every thing goes but yes bypassing the air box is always a good idea so the crank case vent tube cant put oil in the air box

planning a trip to romania soon ?

ill try to compare the hoses from the f4i with the ones from f4 and see if it makes any sense

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adichino

planning a trip to romania soon ?

ill try to compare the hoses from the f4i with the ones from f4 and see if it makes any sense

no but i hear it is very nice in the mountains

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 05:35 PM

from the pictures it looks like the pair valve is ported to the intake and you dont want to reroute your crank case breather to the intake ...

adichino · 10-20-2009, 05:39 PM

the left hose from the pair valve goes in the airbox and the right one splits in two and goes in the carbs, the other one is the outer air vent hose which must stay there for air intake
the crankcase hose goes directly from the motor to the airbox this is why ive said that maybe fill it up will do the trick

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adichino

the left hose from the pair valve goes in the airbox and the right one splits in two and goes in the carbs, the other one is the outer air vent hose which must stay there for air intake
the crankcase hose goes directly from the motor to the airbox this is why ive said that maybe fill it up will do the trick

fill the hose in the air box but the crank case still needs to be vented

10-03-2009, 12:45 PM	#262
herestolife1000 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: clearwater weekdays, orlando weekends Bike: '01 cbr 600 f41 Gender: Male Posts: 81	Re: how to air box mod f4i i just saved a few pictures, took the laptop to the garage and used those to work with anyways i realized that (at least on my bike) it's not a 1/2 inch t, it's a 1/2 inch t INSERT. the insert means that it fits into a 1/2 inch opening, while the 1/2 inch t has 1/2 inch openings on all sides so i had to tape up the T pretty ghetto like, anyways i didn't notice any real difference, if anything (maybe) the low rpm's were a bit smoother when taking off and how does it make sense that there is a vacuum but no pressure? any kind of vacuum will create pressure if the air has nowhere to release it self?

10-03-2009, 09:34 PM	#266
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10-15-2009, 02:05 PM	#267
PazUp I Chose to No Longer Post Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY, Long Eyelan Bike: World's Fast Test Mule is BoneStock Gender: Male Posts: 57	Re: how to air box mod f4i doo doo do you think I know the product? No. Do I sort of know the generic PAIR system, D'uh! D'uh, I know dis much: For every action dare is an equal reaction; so say the crank and air cleaner are a matched set. Say you plumb the crankcase to the PAIR. Say, you dump a bunch of oil down the exhaust and that is going to cook some oil into carbon that is going to close the air reed down, possibly. All of a sudden you have crank and counter shaft sprocket seals backing up; the vent goes closed. I'd service or at least look over my reeds I start to re-plumb the bike. Next is that noise you keep hearing? I'm going to guess the pulse is getting a miss-read on the PAIR electric gate, and semi defaults to the backup. Without hearing the noise, that is my guess. You feel some bottom grunt, but what you feel is the "backup" is Kawi terms and Suz says the "fail-safe" is their legal term for the same generic. So, do we spike the hack to the bottom grunt with a faster set ignition map? Hummmmmmmmmm....Interesting. Last edited by PazUp; 10-15-2009 at 02:08 PM.

10-20-2009, 08:48 AM	#268
adichino Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: bucharest Bike: 1KRR&four easy Gender: Male Posts: 237	Re: how to air box mod f4i can I do this mod to my carbed F4 ? anyone tried?

10-20-2009, 11:09 AM	#269
birdie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: blackpool uk Age: 25 Bike: 05 636 with an MMD 12 bar and an OMR subcage Gender: Male Posts: 652	Re: how to air box mod f4i what is an f4i??? what is an airbox??? what is air??? what is a t-valve??? what is 1/2 inch???

10-20-2009, 02:47 PM	#271
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10-20-2009, 05:00 PM	#272
adichino Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: bucharest Bike: 1KRR&four easy Gender: Male Posts: 237	Re: how to air box mod f4i so no one tried on a carbed F4 ? OMR you are the brain in this thread, share some thoughts

10-20-2009, 05:24 PM	#275
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,047	Re: how to air box mod f4i cant really tell from that picture , i would need to see it in person to see where every thing goes but yes bypassing the air box is always a good idea so the crank case vent tube cant put oil in the air box __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE RIGHTEOUSSTUNTMETAL,COM STRICTLYSTUNT.COM

10-20-2009, 05:35 PM	#278
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,047	Re: how to air box mod f4i from the pictures it looks like the pair valve is ported to the intake and you dont want to reroute your crank case breather to the intake ... __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE RIGHTEOUSSTUNTMETAL,COM STRICTLYSTUNT.COM

10-20-2009, 05:39 PM	#279
adichino Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: bucharest Bike: 1KRR&four easy Gender: Male Posts: 237	Re: how to air box mod f4i the left hose from the pair valve goes in the airbox and the right one splits in two and goes in the carbs, the other one is the outer air vent hose which must stay there for air intake the crankcase hose goes directly from the motor to the airbox this is why ive said that maybe fill it up will do the trick