kleen air on my 636-good idea! - Page 6

Ryan S · 03-20-2007, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

yeah that why u don't hose clamp them and dont make it air tight.

if you don't clamp it, then you get oil ooozin out all over the place??

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Mr. Farley · 03-20-2007, 06:18 PM

So nobody knows if F4i's have such a mod?

Ryan S · 03-20-2007, 06:18 PM

rodger sold me on it, i'm going to the hardware store to buy a couple extra hp's for my old piece of shit bike.

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

if you don't clamp it, then you get oil ooozin out all over the place??

the mass of the oil will run back into the valve cover/crank case you might get alittle bit of leakage.

Hawco · 03-20-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

that blow by pressure @15k rpm can/will push out your valve cover gasket and or stator cover gasket etc..

Blow by pressure escapes through the Crank case breather into the airbox... when u rout it back into the valve cover, your now creating a engine balloon

by this statment i get what your sayin now, why you don't run the vent hose to the valve cover

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Farley

So nobody knows if F4i's have such a mod?

u can turn a f4i up side down and hold it WOFT with out a issue.

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 06:22 PM

it is ported thru the exhaust ports......

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0s

by this statment i get what your sayin now, why you don't run the vent hose to the valve cover

i rev limiter coaster'd the fuck out of my r6 like 500 times and not once did i blow any smoke... i dip back to scrape also.

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

it is ported thru the exhaust ports......

barely, im sure blowby most the time out weights the duration of port operation and remember there is more of a positive pressure on the exhaust side. cause bikes run advanced timing.

Ryan S · 03-20-2007, 06:26 PM

so your saying that by doing this you may blow out seals?

T-NECK · 03-20-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeliest

u can turn a f4i up side down and hold it WOFT with out a issue.

It will Hydro Lock Quickly.

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeliest

barely, im sure blowby most the time out weights the duration of port operation and remember there is more of a positive pressure on the exhaust side. cause bikes run advanced timing.

hhhmmm..
may be i just don't have alot of blow by and he does..

Hawco · 03-20-2007, 06:27 PM

ok wheeliest let me get his clear here,
you don't run the vent hose to the valve cover, because of blow by pressure...which will hurt seals.
you just run the hose around the airbox and hooking it back into its original place?
correct?

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:28 PM

yes... specialy with a bike that has bad blow by

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by T-NECK

It will Hydro Lock Quickly.

i was being sarcastic. but f4is don't have much of an issue like r6's and 636s because they have a baffled crank case braether.

Hawco · 03-20-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

yes... specialy with a bike that has bad blow by

excellent...so you do that, and also dissconnect the air induction, which was shown how to, in that link you pasted earilyer
and your good to gooooooooo

old man roger · 03-20-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

so your saying that by doing this you may blow out seals?

i don't see how if it is ported thru the exhaust and the exhuast causes a vaccum

i thought the same thing as you till i read every thread on the subject

Wheeliest · 03-20-2007, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry0s

ok wheeliest let me get his clear here,
you don't run the vent hose to the valve cover, because of blow by pressure...which will hurt seals.
you just run the hose around the airbox and hooking it back into its original place?
correct?

you got it, by doing that u buy your self lots of time, i wasn't haveing any issues with it stock form... now i def wont have any issues with 2 1/2feet added to it.

Ryan S · 03-20-2007, 06:32 PM

now i think i might just stick with the long ass retarded hose running around the motor, because yeah, your motor is getting blown up like a balloon...there really isn't anyplace for pressure to fent at 15k rpms, especially when you start the motor when it's cold, (such as -15 degrees) there has to be excessive pressure build up from that.

Hawco · 03-20-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

you got it, by doing that u buy your self lots of time, i wasn't haveing any issues with it stock form... now i def wont have any issues with 2 1/2feet added to it.

yea i never had oil porblems like this either with my r6, so i shoulda with even more hose aswell SWEET:YEAH

03-20-2007, 06:18 PM	#102
Mr. Farley Screw racing, it's pricey Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 5280 Bike: Kawi ZX6RR Gender: Male Posts: 7,258	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! So nobody knows if F4i's have such a mod?

03-20-2007, 06:18 PM	#103
Ryan S Group Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: milton, wi Age: 29 Bike: 04 gt40 636 Gender: Male Posts: 10,847	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! rodger sold me on it, i'm going to the hardware store to buy a couple extra hp's for my old piece of shit bike. __________________ EVS M4 Exhaust Amsoil Throttle Threads Z1R Full Throttle Inc Thrust moto-madness.com EK Race Chains Pingel Racing 905 Permanently stained customs

03-20-2007, 06:22 PM	#107
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,227	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! it is ported thru the exhaust ports......

03-20-2007, 06:26 PM	#110
Ryan S Group Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: milton, wi Age: 29 Bike: 04 gt40 636 Gender: Male Posts: 10,847	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! so your saying that by doing this you may blow out seals? __________________ EVS M4 Exhaust Amsoil Throttle Threads Z1R Full Throttle Inc Thrust moto-madness.com EK Race Chains Pingel Racing 905 Permanently stained customs

03-20-2007, 06:27 PM	#113
Hawco Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Age: 21 Bike: 04 r6, 05 636 Gender: Male Posts: 626	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! ok wheeliest let me get his clear here, you don't run the vent hose to the valve cover, because of blow by pressure...which will hurt seals. you just run the hose around the airbox and hooking it back into its original place? correct?

03-20-2007, 06:28 PM	#114
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03-20-2007, 06:32 PM	#119
Ryan S Group Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: milton, wi Age: 29 Bike: 04 gt40 636 Gender: Male Posts: 10,847	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! now i think i might just stick with the long ass retarded hose running around the motor, because yeah, your motor is getting blown up like a balloon...there really isn't anyplace for pressure to fent at 15k rpms, especially when you start the motor when it's cold, (such as -15 degrees) there has to be excessive pressure build up from that. __________________ EVS M4 Exhaust Amsoil Throttle Threads Z1R Full Throttle Inc Thrust moto-madness.com EK Race Chains Pingel Racing 905 Permanently stained customs