kleen air on my 636-good idea! - Page 11

old man roger · 03-28-2007, 11:41 AM

im old ,i know things ..lol

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verticaljay · 03-28-2007, 11:42 AM

so this is fine and won't blow out head gaskets? Sweet! I'll put the mod in tomorrow.

Hawco · 03-28-2007, 11:50 AM

so it works, awesome!
same deal for the r6 wheeliest?...shouldn't blow gaskets etc...

old man roger · 03-28-2007, 11:55 AM

yep ...

Wheeliest · 03-28-2007, 12:08 PM

it prolly is the same... im not 100% sure but it has the same reed valve set up.

THORPE · 03-28-2007, 01:43 PM

Finally some closure!

Everybody's doin it, you do it too!

Thanks for lookin into it Wheeliest, you took all the guessing out

old man roger · 03-28-2007, 02:05 PM

yea he just didn't find what he thought he would...lol

Wheeliest · 03-28-2007, 02:08 PM

also i know, is johnnyp and i have seen issues from this... mainly it pushed out valve cover seal, but did not damage it.

BURN · 03-28-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0s

so it works, awesome!
same deal for the r6 wheeliest?...shouldn't blow gaskets etc...

it's real easy on the R6. i did it a few weeks ago, and its been fine. and actually does seem to have more low end torque.

if you need, i can try to get some pics of it....

old man roger · 03-28-2007, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wheeliest

also i know, is johnnyp and i have seen issues from this... mainly it pushed out valve cover seal, but did not damage it.

no johnny p made a nipple that went directly in to the valve cover not the kleen air ports......

Hawco · 03-28-2007, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BURN

it's real easy on the R6. i did it a few weeks ago, and its been fine. and actually does seem to have more low end torque.

if you need, i can try to get some pics of it....

do it !! would be appreiated even though i get the idea , but i'd just like to see it

Wheeliest · 03-28-2007, 05:14 PM

no johnnyp runs a hose arround the bike back to the air box.

BURN · 03-28-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0s

do it !! would be appreiated even though i get the idea , but i'd just like to see it

k, i'll will get them up as soon as i can......

old man roger · 03-29-2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

no johnnyp runs a hose arround the bike back to the air box.

your just arguing now if he just ran it around the air box then how did he blow a valve cover gasket from doing this mod ?

he may have it that way now but he made his own port in to the valve cover and that blew out the gasket

you your self proved that the kleen air mod doesn't blow gaskets

as a matter of fact if the bike is at a steady rpm with the mod done it could possibly stop a gasket from leaking until you turned the bike off because the exhaust creates a vaccum in the crank case

old man roger · 03-29-2007, 01:04 AM

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Re: 636 Crankcase Vent Solutions
This is really starting to piss me off

Just put a new very low milage motor in and I got oil sprayed all over me on the highway!

I used to have my crankcase breather blocked off and had a hose comming off the valve cover wraped around the motor once, then routed up to the front of the bike with a little filter on the end. On my old motor this worked fine, only on the street (high RPM) it would piss a little oil here and there....

So I drop in the new motor keeping the breather the same but changed to a catch can instead of a filter on the end, and after 5 min on the highway and a little wheelie Im covered in oil

I really wanted to ride so I rushed back to the shop power washed the bike and hooked up my crankcase breather to my valve cover, now the ****in bastard is leakin oil through my stator cover(where the wires come out) and it blew the o-ring in my manual cam chain tensioner out.....I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE A BAD IDEA

I think my only option now is to put it back to stock and burn all the oil and try my best not to hydro lock the motor......

I dont understand how these fixes are working for some people and not for others, even between my 2 motors the outcome was dufferent

Hawco · 03-31-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BURN

k, i'll will get them up as soon as i can......

get any yet?

BURN · 04-01-2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ry0s

get any yet?

not yet, sorry.....

been riding, and havent needed to take the take off. i'll try tomorrow, but no promises.

Hawco · 04-02-2007, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BURN

not yet, sorry.....

been riding, and havent needed to take the take off. i'll try tomorrow, but no promises.

just wonderin, when you got the mod all hooked up, did you just disconnect the AIS or did you leave it there?

BURN · 04-04-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ry0s

just wonderin, when you got the mod all hooked up, did you just disconnect the AIS or did you leave it there?

AIS? the intake? i had all of that taken out anyway. cause i had it streetfighter for a while...

got some pics, i'll get them up today.

BURN · 04-04-2007, 06:15 PM

here ya go...sorry for the shitty cell phone pics, its the only camera i could get ahold of.

anyway, the red arrows show where the hoses connect.

the "T" just replaces the air valve, i re-used the L-shaped hoses that attach to the vavle cover. just un hook the plug for the air valve and zip tie it out of the way,

ran the large hose back to the crank case vent. just tucked the hose between the throttle bodies and frame.

it is really easy, hope it helps...

03-28-2007, 11:42 AM	#202
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03-28-2007, 11:50 AM	#203
Hawco Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Age: 21 Bike: 04 r6, 05 636 Gender: Male Posts: 626	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! so it works, awesome! same deal for the r6 wheeliest?...shouldn't blow gaskets etc...

03-28-2007, 11:55 AM	#204
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,201	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! yep ...

03-28-2007, 12:08 PM	#205
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! it prolly is the same... im not 100% sure but it has the same reed valve set up. __________________ . Last edited by Wheeliest; 03-28-2007 at 12:14 PM.

03-28-2007, 01:43 PM	#206
THORPE Thread Killer!!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kosciusko, MS Age: 33 Bike: '04 R6 Gender: Male Posts: 1,421	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! Finally some closure! Everybody's doin it, you do it too! Thanks for lookin into it Wheeliest, you took all the guessing out

03-28-2007, 02:05 PM	#207
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,201	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! yea he just didn't find what he thought he would...lol

03-28-2007, 02:08 PM	#208
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! also i know, is johnnyp and i have seen issues from this... mainly it pushed out valve cover seal, but did not damage it. __________________ .

03-28-2007, 05:14 PM	#212
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! no johnnyp runs a hose arround the bike back to the air box. __________________ .

03-29-2007, 01:04 AM	#215
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,201	Re: kleen air on my 636-good idea! JohnnyP vbmenu_register("postmenu_2088030", true); Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Toronto Age: 25 Bike: 03 R6, 03 636, 04 CRF50/106 Gender: Male Posts: 1,697 Re: 636 Crankcase Vent Solutions This is really starting to piss me off Just put a new very low milage motor in and I got oil sprayed all over me on the highway! I used to have my crankcase breather blocked off and had a hose comming off the valve cover wraped around the motor once, then routed up to the front of the bike with a little filter on the end. On my old motor this worked fine, only on the street (high RPM) it would piss a little oil here and there.... So I drop in the new motor keeping the breather the same but changed to a catch can instead of a filter on the end, and after 5 min on the highway and a little wheelie Im covered in oil I really wanted to ride so I rushed back to the shop power washed the bike and hooked up my crankcase breather to my valve cover, now the ****in bastard is leakin oil through my stator cover(where the wires come out) and it blew the o-ring in my manual cam chain tensioner out.....I KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE A BAD IDEA I think my only option now is to put it back to stock and burn all the oil and try my best not to hydro lock the motor...... I dont understand how these fixes are working for some people and not for others, even between my 2 motors the outcome was dufferent