catching idle

Nikoli · 05-05-2006, 12:57 PM

how long did it take everyone to catch idle? iv been trying to slow stunt for about 2 weeks now and i keep finding bp at like 13krpms... I know i need to clutch higher and stop with the brake but any more tips?

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Wheeliest · 05-05-2006, 02:56 PM

i learnd to clutch it up and give it one constant amount of brake pressure, like i just mentaly knew it was enough to stop me from looping and just kept going back further and further till it slowed down... just keep solid pressure on the rear brake and apply alittle more n more throttle.

DURTY · 05-05-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

i learnd to clutch it up and give it one constant amount of brake pressure, like i just mentaly knew it was enough to stop me from looping and just kept going back further and further till it slowed down... just keep solid pressure on the rear brake and apply alittle more n more throttle.

+1

Jaket · 05-05-2006, 05:27 PM

You don't need to catch idle, find the balance first and get it high enough to run against the brake. Stop pumping the throttle. just clutch it, keep throttle as constant as possible and use the brake.

JT

STICKYstunts · 05-05-2006, 06:51 PM

It took me forever to learn idle. Then someone watched me do it one day and saw what I was doing wrong. I was clutching it up and hitting the brake too early.

To catch idle, have your foot on the brake pedal. Dont apply pressure just make sure your foot it touching the pedal. Then roll about 1-2 mph and pull in the clutch. When you are slightly moving, dab the brake to make the bike stop. As soon as you do that, blip the gas and clutch it up. This will make you come up quick and high without gaining alot of speed. Clutch it up and dont hit the brake til you feel the idle pull you back. Keep practicing that and getting used to the idle pulling you. You are allowed to hit the brake when u feel the idle kick in. If you dont feel the idle blip the gas a bit and DONT touch the brake til you feel the idle. Hope this helps. Once I did this I was riding idle in 2 minutes.

STICKYstunts · 05-05-2006, 06:55 PM

Oh, and be smooth with the brake and gas. Hit the brake 1/2 as hard as you think you should. And dont KEEP pressure on the brake, this will make you bog the bike down and stall.

-nelson · 05-05-2006, 07:05 PM

Heres how I get it up to idle, I turn the rpms up to like 3g ,with the bike in first I sit there at complete stop with my foot holding the brake and clutch pulled in. Then just slip out the clutch and blip the throttle ,I always keep an eye on my front forks ,when there level im at B.p and the idle is carrying me along ,I gently press the rear brake constantly , but most of the time I dont need it. When the front wheel starts to fall I just blip the throttle. I use a 73 tooth ,and a little under 10 pds.. good luck hope this helps...

Wheeliest · 05-05-2006, 07:08 PM

were talking about learning idle, not being good at idle allready and getting on the idle.

STICKYstunts · 05-05-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Wheeliest

were talking about learning idle, not being good at idle allready and getting on the idle.

You are retarded

Wheeliest · 05-05-2006, 08:42 PM

and your awesome!

Nikoli · 05-06-2006, 03:56 PM

Thanks a lot guys. I'll be hitting the lots later today or tomorrow (damn rain) and ill post up how I made out with the new advice!

jth017 · 05-06-2006, 08:12 PM

nikoli...what kind of work do you have done to that bike? this is kinda off-topic compared to the post, but im just curious. is it geared? pc111? nice bike bro!

Nikoli · 05-06-2006, 09:17 PM

scrape works sub frame, adj 12 bar and cage
a custom re-inforced sub because i broke my frame...
905 front fairing stay
full throttle risers for db bars
tags metals db bars
full throttle hand brake
all steel brake lines
gpr damnpner
avs shorty clutch(junk)
yana shiki slip on(soon to be shorty)
-1 +10 geared
power commander USB III with a map i downloaded and tweeked with :YEAH
bunch of stickers and rattle can work( helps with ballance

)
ton of zip ties... a ton

GundamnitPete · 05-06-2006, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by STICKYstunts

It took me forever to learn idle. Then someone watched me do it one day and saw what I was doing wrong. I was clutching it up and hitting the brake too early.

To catch idle, have your foot on the brake pedal. Dont apply pressure just make sure your foot it touching the pedal. Then roll about 1-2 mph and pull in the clutch. When you are slightly moving, dab the brake to make the bike stop. As soon as you do that, blip the gas and clutch it up. This will make you come up quick and high without gaining alot of speed. Clutch it up and dont hit the brake til you feel the idle pull you back. Keep practicing that and getting used to the idle pulling you. You are allowed to hit the brake when u feel the idle kick in. If you dont feel the idle blip the gas a bit and DONT touch the brake til you feel the idle. Hope this helps. Once I did this I was riding idle in 2 minutes.

that's damn good advice..... so i should just let the engine brake bring me back onto the idle???

as of right now, everytime i try idle, i'm either to low, or i blip it to much and go so far back that i just slow down and bogg out

jth017 · 05-06-2006, 10:22 PM

nikoli, u def seem like u know what ur doing and talking about. im on an 06R6, my 3rd bike, with just a racefit slip on. (no money for anything else right now) obviously stock geared still and my question is; is it possible to bring it up like that from a stand still and then slow it down? im kinda a beginner when it comes to stuntin, and hesitant to do it with a new bike, but also curious at the same time. im not lookin to do crazy circles or anything like that, just a slow, high parkin lot wheelie that my friends can't do lol. i also know when i'm not ready to try a new trick, so don't worry about me doin somethin im not ready for yet. but my question is, is it possible on my bike, and how do i start to learn?

jth017 · 05-06-2006, 10:24 PM

o and 1 more thing, i can wheelie and stoppie quite well, so dont think im just tryin to jump into the world of wheelies with a 12 oclock parkin lot. haha

Nikoli · 05-06-2006, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jth017

nikoli, u def seem like u know what ur doing and talking about. im on an 06R6, my 3rd bike, with just a racefit slip on. (no money for anything else right now) obviously stock geared still and my question is; is it possible to bring it up like that from a stand still and then slow it down? im kinda a beginner when it comes to stuntin, and hesitant to do it with a new bike, but also curious at the same time. im not lookin to do crazy circles or anything like that, just a slow, high parkin lot wheelie that my friends can't do lol. i also know when i'm not ready to try a new trick, so don't worry about me doin somethin im not ready for yet. but my question is, is it possible on my bike, and how do i start to learn?

that bike of yours will wheely like a banshee, just alot of clutch. but if your going for stand ups in 1st gear in parking lots, id deffently get a cage if I were you

thoes new R6's are sweet for sure, where in NY do you live?

jth017 · 05-06-2006, 10:56 PM

carmel, in putnam county/ the bronx i have an apt in the bronx for college year round, and i live in carmel so im back n forth. now that its so nice out more in carmel, which is only about 45 minutes north, since there are much nicer roads to ride up here

Nikoli · 05-06-2006, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jth017

carmel, in putnam county/ the bronx i have an apt in the bronx for college year round, and i live in carmel so im back n forth. now that its so nice out more in carmel, which is only about 45 minutes north, since there are much nicer roads to ride up here

even better roads more north than that! I live in toga which is near Albany

STICKYstunts · 05-06-2006, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GundamnitPete

that's damn good advice..... so i should just let the engine brake bring me back onto the idle???

as of right now, everytime i try idle, i'm either to low, or i blip it to much and go so far back that i just slow down and bogg out

You should try to get to it right off of the clutch up. If you speed up and blip the throttle you have to blip it past balance point and gently touch the brake to slow it down. Easier to try to get it right off clutch up and blip one time to get there.

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05-05-2006, 02:56 PM	#2
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: catching idle i learnd to clutch it up and give it one constant amount of brake pressure, like i just mentaly knew it was enough to stop me from looping and just kept going back further and further till it slowed down... just keep solid pressure on the rear brake and apply alittle more n more throttle. __________________ .

05-05-2006, 05:27 PM	#4
Jaket Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North pole Age: 35 Bike: Speed triple 05 & 636 05 Gender: Male Posts: 700	Re: catching idle You don't need to catch idle, find the balance first and get it high enough to run against the brake. Stop pumping the throttle. just clutch it, keep throttle as constant as possible and use the brake. JT

05-05-2006, 06:51 PM	#5
STICKYstunts Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 24 Bike: (2) 05 636s, 08 kx250f, 03 rm250 Gender: Male Posts: 1,799	Re: catching idle It took me forever to learn idle. Then someone watched me do it one day and saw what I was doing wrong. I was clutching it up and hitting the brake too early. To catch idle, have your foot on the brake pedal. Dont apply pressure just make sure your foot it touching the pedal. Then roll about 1-2 mph and pull in the clutch. When you are slightly moving, dab the brake to make the bike stop. As soon as you do that, blip the gas and clutch it up. This will make you come up quick and high without gaining alot of speed. Clutch it up and dont hit the brake til you feel the idle pull you back. Keep practicing that and getting used to the idle pulling you. You are allowed to hit the brake when u feel the idle kick in. If you dont feel the idle blip the gas a bit and DONT touch the brake til you feel the idle. Hope this helps. Once I did this I was riding idle in 2 minutes.

05-05-2006, 06:55 PM	#6
STICKYstunts Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 24 Bike: (2) 05 636s, 08 kx250f, 03 rm250 Gender: Male Posts: 1,799	Re: catching idle Oh, and be smooth with the brake and gas. Hit the brake 1/2 as hard as you think you should. And dont KEEP pressure on the brake, this will make you bog the bike down and stall.

05-05-2006, 07:05 PM	#7
-nelson life is good Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cape Cod.....MASS!! Age: 33 Bike: almost perfectly setup 04 636! 02 YZ-125 (www.sickshooter.com) Gender: Male Posts: 1,202	Re: catching idle Heres how I get it up to idle, I turn the rpms up to like 3g ,with the bike in first I sit there at complete stop with my foot holding the brake and clutch pulled in. Then just slip out the clutch and blip the throttle ,I always keep an eye on my front forks ,when there level im at B.p and the idle is carrying me along ,I gently press the rear brake constantly , but most of the time I dont need it. When the front wheel starts to fall I just blip the throttle. I use a 73 tooth ,and a little under 10 pds.. good luck hope this helps...

05-05-2006, 07:08 PM	#8
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: catching idle were talking about learning idle, not being good at idle allready and getting on the idle. __________________ .

05-05-2006, 08:42 PM	#10
Wheeliest I Love To Post! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Avondale Az Age: 26 Bike: 03 954 RRRRR Gender: Male Posts: 8,818	Re: catching idle and your awesome! __________________ .

05-06-2006, 03:56 PM	#11
Nikoli Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saratoga, NY Age: 25 Bike: 01 F4i Gender: Male Posts: 367	Re: catching idle Thanks a lot guys. I'll be hitting the lots later today or tomorrow (damn rain) and ill post up how I made out with the new advice!

05-06-2006, 08:12 PM	#12
jth017 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: new york Age: 24 Bike: o-six-r-six Gender: Male Posts: 19	Re: catching idle nikoli...what kind of work do you have done to that bike? this is kinda off-topic compared to the post, but im just curious. is it geared? pc111? nice bike bro!

05-06-2006, 10:22 PM	#15
jth017 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: new york Age: 24 Bike: o-six-r-six Gender: Male Posts: 19	Re: catching idle nikoli, u def seem like u know what ur doing and talking about. im on an 06R6, my 3rd bike, with just a racefit slip on. (no money for anything else right now) obviously stock geared still and my question is; is it possible to bring it up like that from a stand still and then slow it down? im kinda a beginner when it comes to stuntin, and hesitant to do it with a new bike, but also curious at the same time. im not lookin to do crazy circles or anything like that, just a slow, high parkin lot wheelie that my friends can't do lol. i also know when i'm not ready to try a new trick, so don't worry about me doin somethin im not ready for yet. but my question is, is it possible on my bike, and how do i start to learn?

05-06-2006, 10:24 PM	#16
jth017 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: new york Age: 24 Bike: o-six-r-six Gender: Male Posts: 19	Re: catching idle o and 1 more thing, i can wheelie and stoppie quite well, so dont think im just tryin to jump into the world of wheelies with a 12 oclock parkin lot. haha

05-06-2006, 10:56 PM	#18
jth017 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: new york Age: 24 Bike: o-six-r-six Gender: Male Posts: 19	Re: catching idle carmel, in putnam county/ the bronx i have an apt in the bronx for college year round, and i live in carmel so im back n forth. now that its so nice out more in carmel, which is only about 45 minutes north, since there are much nicer roads to ride up here