F4i idle screw relocation
06-22-2005, 01:40 AM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by Schwartz
Dude did you read the post???
Gotta leave the stock one in place.
Gotta leave the stock one in place.
06-22-2005, 02:22 AM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by got circles?
duuude did you read my post i said switch them the one in the center(screw only) just screw in where the cable one(stock one goes)and cable one in the center. your not gonna need to adj. the stock one just do it from the cable in the center.
OOOHHHHH I See!!!
Good idea!!!
Sorry my bad.
07-05-2005, 05:25 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by Schwartz
You can get the idle to the desired RPM and only have to twist the cable like 1/4 to 1/2 A Turn and the idle is more sufficant then when you use the stock Idle up. This is for the f4i's. I am sure the f4's are fine stock. The stock setup doens't even open the throttel bodies it only fatten's up the idle simalar to a choke.
07-05-2005, 05:40 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
i don't know what yall are talkin about, but i took out the stock idle "stop" and screwed my Cable in where that goes.. and I've got NOOOOO problem.. well, you can get it to stall if you unscrew it all the way.. and you can still get it WAAYYYYY up there in the Rpms' to get up around 45mph..
07-05-2005, 06:44 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by atnuts
I know you have to leave the stock idle cable installed but what should it be set at? I have the stock set to 3krpm. should I set it back to normal idle and just mess with the second cable?
(stock one changes fuel flapper, second one does the same thing as turning the throttle, just holds it where you want it)
07-06-2005, 03:24 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by SIC GSXR
second one does the same thing as turning the throttle, just holds it where you want it)
08-11-2005, 09:21 AM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by Schwartz
IF YOU PEOPLE LISTEN TO What GOTCIRCLES is saying.
YOU NEED NOTHING!!!
Take the stock cable out and put it where a set screw is.
DONE!
YOU NEED NOTHING!!!
Take the stock cable out and put it where a set screw is.
DONE!
i dont turn my idle up all the time, is ther anyway to smooth out the regular idle?
or do i need to put the stock idle cadle back in its stock location and get another cable to turn it up?
08-11-2005, 02:38 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by Kelly.
i did this last night, and now it seems to idle rough.
i dont turn my idle up all the time, is ther anyway to smooth out the regular idle?
or do i need to put the stock idle cadle back in its stock location and get another cable to turn it up?
i dont turn my idle up all the time, is ther anyway to smooth out the regular idle?
or do i need to put the stock idle cadle back in its stock location and get another cable to turn it up?
schwartz?
gotcircles?
teamclc?
anyone that has done this mode to thier f4i ?
08-11-2005, 02:40 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by atnuts
does the actual throttle grip turn if you set the second cable to 3krpm? or is it all internal?
08-11-2005, 04:56 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
If you read above, we covered this...
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Originally Posted by atnuts
I know you have to leave the stock idle cable installed but what should it be set at? I have the stock set to 3krpm. should I set it back to normal idle and just mess with the second cable?
Ya leave the stock one set to normal idle and just turn up the second cable.
(stock one changes fuel flapper, second one does the same thing as turning the throttle, just holds it where you want it)
But. anyways...again YES YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE STOCK IDLE ADJUST CABLE and ADD A SECOND ONE to the throttle bodies or the bike will not run right (or at all on a 600rr)
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Originally Posted by atnuts
I know you have to leave the stock idle cable installed but what should it be set at? I have the stock set to 3krpm. should I set it back to normal idle and just mess with the second cable?
Ya leave the stock one set to normal idle and just turn up the second cable.
(stock one changes fuel flapper, second one does the same thing as turning the throttle, just holds it where you want it)
But. anyways...again YES YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE STOCK IDLE ADJUST CABLE and ADD A SECOND ONE to the throttle bodies or the bike will not run right (or at all on a 600rr)
08-11-2005, 06:10 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by SIC GSXR
If you read above, we covered this...
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Originally Posted by atnuts
I know you have to leave the stock idle cable installed but what should it be set at? I have the stock set to 3krpm. should I set it back to normal idle and just mess with the second cable?
Ya leave the stock one set to normal idle and just turn up the second cable.
(stock one changes fuel flapper, second one does the same thing as turning the throttle, just holds it where you want it)
But. anyways...again YES YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE STOCK IDLE ADJUST CABLE and ADD A SECOND ONE to the throttle bodies or the bike will not run right (or at all on a 600rr)
Quote:
Originally Posted by atnuts
I know you have to leave the stock idle cable installed but what should it be set at? I have the stock set to 3krpm. should I set it back to normal idle and just mess with the second cable?
Ya leave the stock one set to normal idle and just turn up the second cable.
(stock one changes fuel flapper, second one does the same thing as turning the throttle, just holds it where you want it)
But. anyways...again YES YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE STOCK IDLE ADJUST CABLE and ADD A SECOND ONE to the throttle bodies or the bike will not run right (or at all on a 600rr)
08-14-2005, 09:38 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Here is what I added to make turning up idle even easier go buy a rubber hose from an auto parts store zip tie over your extra idle screw know and just run it out the right side of the bike easy to turn up and down even with gloves on! :YEAH
go buy a rubber hose from an auto parts store zip tie over your extra idle screw know and just run it out the right side of the bike easy to turn up and down even with gloves on! :YEAH 
08-15-2005, 01:28 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
The normal idle adjuster does not adjust the butterfly's. It adjust small idle valves that let bypass air past the throttle body butterfly's. Now the thing is that adjusting this stock cable can only increase the idle very little and when you turn it, the Throttle position sensor does not turn, so the mixture goes lean. When the engine is cold the same valves let more air in , and the ECU gives more fuel because the engine is cold. But when engine is warm you don't get no extra fuel when you increase idle speed with the stock adjuster. This is probably the reason why the idle goes inregular if you increase the idle too high with stock adjuster.
This new adjuster adjust the throttle butterfly's, now the throttle position sensor also turns and ECU knows that throttle has been opened more and gives more fuel to compensate. Basicly the mixture is depending on the stock adjuster position, so you can make it little leaner with opening the stock cable or making it richer by closing it.
JakeT.
This new adjuster adjust the throttle butterfly's, now the throttle position sensor also turns and ECU knows that throttle has been opened more and gives more fuel to compensate. Basicly the mixture is depending on the stock adjuster position, so you can make it little leaner with opening the stock cable or making it richer by closing it.
JakeT.
08-15-2005, 01:48 PM
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Re: F4i idle screw relocation
Originally Posted by Jaket
The normal idle adjuster does not adjust the butterfly's. It adjust small idle valves that let bypass air past the throttle body butterfly's. Now the thing is that adjusting this stock cable can only increase the idle very little and when you turn it, the Throttle position sensor does not turn, so the mixture goes lean. When the engine is cold the same valves let more air in , and the ECU gives more fuel because the engine is cold. But when engine is warm you don't get no extra fuel when you increase idle speed with the stock adjuster. This is probably the reason why the idle goes inregular if you increase the idle too high with stock adjuster.
This new adjuster adjust the throttle butterfly's, now the throttle position sensor also turns and ECU knows that throttle has been opened more and gives more fuel to compensate. Basicly the mixture is depending on the stock adjuster position, so you can make it little leaner with opening the stock cable or making it richer by closing it.
JakeT.
This new adjuster adjust the throttle butterfly's, now the throttle position sensor also turns and ECU knows that throttle has been opened more and gives more fuel to compensate. Basicly the mixture is depending on the stock adjuster position, so you can make it little leaner with opening the stock cable or making it richer by closing it.
JakeT.
nice, thanks for the info man
