learn 12s the easist way??? - Page 2 - Stunting Help and Advice

hayez · 02-19-2003, 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by mixtremesdave
i have a bar on it now, its about 10 inches out, i hit it a couple times, but hard, i plan on doing the same as said before, get comfortable with it and then cut it down some. but by the time my shit is on the lite the trick will be played out(as if its not allready)

thanks for all the help guys

p.s. sliders wont help if you wreck a 12............

im thinking im gonna put a bar on,anyo of you guys using that cage that the texas guy sells?

Merk · 02-19-2003, 12:22 AM

JackassRR uses one of those cages, its dope but i think hes gonna change somethin on it..holla at him hes madd nice

mattdedes · 02-19-2003, 12:46 AM

i just put my bar on, its gonna stick out about 10 inches past the tail, i wanna get it up to that point, then shorten it as i get better, i think that will be the best strategy for me

hayez · 02-19-2003, 01:27 AM

how should i make a 12 bar??i think im gonna make one this week,

*nags* · 02-19-2003, 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by hayez
how should i make a 12 bar??i think im gonna make one this week,

You should probably just learn without one...

hayez · 02-19-2003, 01:58 AM

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Originally posted by nags
You should probably just learn without one...

YOU GUYS GOT ME BACK AND FORTH,LOL.im gonna pm you towmorrow if i decide to ride after i get out of school,all depends on how tired i am after words,be about 10 30 or so if i do

JackassRR · 02-19-2003, 04:34 AM

Hey Merk:fugoff ..j/k

I run a cage from www.freestyleingenuity.com and highly reccomend it. It has paid for itself already. Fuk..I'll push it over just to show people how good it works..seriously.

icehot113 · 02-22-2003, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by mattdedes
i just put my bar on, its gonna stick out about 10 inches past the tail, i wanna get it up to that point, then shorten it as i get better, i think that will be the best strategy for me

10 inches past the tail? u will hardly be able to ride a wheelie past balance point cuz u will scrape... learn with the tail, tails are cheap as hell and ur less likely to crash when u scrape...
-ice

MikeM · 02-22-2003, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mattdedes
i just put my bar on, its gonna stick out about 10 inches past the tail, i wanna get it up to that point, then shorten it as i get better, i think that will be the best strategy for me

Thats how I learned to scrape, after destroying my tail trying. It was good to get used to the feeling without being in the danger zone. It took me 3 sessions of 10 minutes each to get it to the length of the stock tail.

*nags* · 02-23-2003, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by icehot113
10 inches past the tail? u will hardly be able to ride a wheelie past balance point cuz u will scrape... learn with the tail, tails are cheap as hell and ur less likely to crash when u scrape...
-ice

look who's talking

infamy · 02-24-2003, 07:01 PM

i took my subframe to my friends house and gave him some good pics of 12 bars so he could make me one. when i picked it up a week later he had made me an adjustable one with square tubing that slides in and out. and you can bolt up the contact plate so you can replace them. it has about 6 inches of adjustment. real easy to adjust the length with plastics on and everything.
its on the bike now , looks good but havent had a chance to test it yet since i have to take the bike back to his house and have him put some finishing touches on it.
will post when i get a chance to test.

infamy · 02-24-2003, 07:02 PM

by the way... whats the best psi. to run when learning twelves? and whats tooo low of a psi?

hayez · 02-24-2003, 10:35 PM

do post pics i would like to see it,thanks,i actually run 15 psi in my tire when i go out,i dont knowi if its good or bad but my wheelies are more stable like that,i actually just put a new m1 on the other day and dealer put it up to 36,my first wheelie i almost crashe because of the wobble

skillz · 03-12-2003, 07:15 PM

15 psi is where you want to be for all around stunting in general .anything less and the tire casing will have a tendency to shift

hayez · 03-12-2003, 08:27 PM

cool,today was actually a good day,i think im getting pretty close

infamy · 03-13-2003, 02:16 PM

15psi for all around stunting???? wouldnt you dent the rim setting stoppies down?

skillz · 03-13-2003, 05:49 PM

I have no dents from putting my endos down,but i wouldn't reccommend it if you are riding around avoiding pot holes. i weigh 220lbs.

hayez · 03-17-2003, 10:55 AM

this is what happened after my first scrape

http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/show...threadid=13329 (my first 12 oclock pics inside)

gixxerking · 03-17-2003, 12:09 PM

i been trying 12's whitout a bar and let me tell you im not even close from scraping,everytime im try them i come up too fast and almost flip,do you keep presure on the brake as you go,does gearing make it easier?

NICK HILL · 03-17-2003, 01:08 PM

id learn without a scrape bar.

make sure your rear brake is new with good fluid. while your learning them your going to probably go through a pad. watch out for brake fade. if you have a steel braded line that will help ALOT while your learning them.

also i suggest you hacksaw the tip of your pipe off.

also it helps me if i move all the way to the tank. (nuts to the tank) and extend my arms with hardly any bend at the elbow. this seems to keep the bike from going side to side.

do not chop the throttle. be consistent with it. be smooth.

right before i commit to a scrape i lighn up my triple tree to the bolts on my gastank to ensure im not crooked when i touch.

02-19-2003, 12:46 AM	#23
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03-12-2003, 07:15 PM	#34
skillz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DIRTY JERZEY Age: 38 Bike: Haro Gender: Male Posts: 1,043	15 psi is where you want to be for all around stunting in general .anything less and the tire casing will have a tendency to shift __________________ the throttle is that thing there on the right

03-13-2003, 05:49 PM	#37
skillz Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DIRTY JERZEY Age: 38 Bike: Haro Gender: Male Posts: 1,043	I have no dents from putting my endos down,but i wouldn't reccommend it if you are riding around avoiding pot holes. i weigh 220lbs. __________________ the throttle is that thing there on the right

03-17-2003, 01:08 PM	#40
NICK HILL ScooterTrashST.com Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Mission Viejo, CA Age: 30 Bike: 929rr/XR50 Gender: Male Posts: 2,174	id learn without a scrape bar. make sure your rear brake is new with good fluid. while your learning them your going to probably go through a pad. watch out for brake fade. if you have a steel braded line that will help ALOT while your learning them. also i suggest you hacksaw the tip of your pipe off. also it helps me if i move all the way to the tank. (nuts to the tank) and extend my arms with hardly any bend at the elbow. this seems to keep the bike from going side to side. do not chop the throttle. be consistent with it. be smooth. right before i commit to a scrape i lighn up my triple tree to the bolts on my gastank to ensure im not crooked when i touch. __________________ Visit us online at: www.ScooterTrashST.com

02-19-2003, 12:22 AM	#22
Merk **** BULLSHITTERS Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CHICAGO Age: 24 Bike: horeshit Gender: Male Posts: 1,382	JackassRR uses one of those cages, its dope but i think hes gonna change somethin on it..holla at him hes madd nice

02-19-2003, 01:27 AM	#24
hayez Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: miami Age: 29 Bike: ill buy what you got Gender: Male Posts: 2,776	how should i make a 12 bar??i think im gonna make one this week,

02-19-2003, 04:34 AM	#27
JackassRR Group Moderator Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: everywhere Age: 39 Bike: 00' 929, 01' 9 duece nizzle, 03xr fiddy Gender: Male Posts: 1,062	Hey Merk:fugoff ..j/k I run a cage from www.freestyleingenuity.com and highly reccomend it. It has paid for itself already. Fuk..I'll push it over just to show people how good it works..seriously.

02-24-2003, 07:01 PM	#31
infamy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: sac , CA Age: Bike: 2002 gsxr 1000 Gender: Posts: 95	i took my subframe to my friends house and gave him some good pics of 12 bars so he could make me one. when i picked it up a week later he had made me an adjustable one with square tubing that slides in and out. and you can bolt up the contact plate so you can replace them. it has about 6 inches of adjustment. real easy to adjust the length with plastics on and everything. its on the bike now , looks good but havent had a chance to test it yet since i have to take the bike back to his house and have him put some finishing touches on it. will post when i get a chance to test.

02-24-2003, 07:02 PM	#32
infamy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: sac , CA Age: Bike: 2002 gsxr 1000 Gender: Posts: 95	by the way... whats the best psi. to run when learning twelves? and whats tooo low of a psi?

02-24-2003, 10:35 PM	#33
hayez Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: miami Age: 29 Bike: ill buy what you got Gender: Male Posts: 2,776	do post pics i would like to see it,thanks,i actually run 15 psi in my tire when i go out,i dont knowi if its good or bad but my wheelies are more stable like that,i actually just put a new m1 on the other day and dealer put it up to 36,my first wheelie i almost crashe because of the wobble

03-12-2003, 08:27 PM	#35
hayez Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: miami Age: 29 Bike: ill buy what you got Gender: Male Posts: 2,776	cool,today was actually a good day,i think im getting pretty close

03-13-2003, 02:16 PM	#36
infamy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: sac , CA Age: Bike: 2002 gsxr 1000 Gender: Posts: 95	15psi for all around stunting???? wouldnt you dent the rim setting stoppies down?

03-17-2003, 10:55 AM	#38
hayez Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: miami Age: 29 Bike: ill buy what you got Gender: Male Posts: 2,776	this is what happened after my first scrape http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/show...threadid=13329 (my first 12 oclock pics inside)

03-17-2003, 12:09 PM	#39
gixxerking Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: jersey Age: Bike: gixxer1000/ gixxer750 Gender: Posts: 142	i been trying 12's whitout a bar and let me tell you im not even close from scraping,everytime im try them i come up too fast and almost flip,do you keep presure on the brake as you go,does gearing make it easier?