learn 12s the easist way??? - Page 13

Goose · 01-01-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by CBR up on one
Build or get a bar....that is how I learned. Not hard just learn how to slow down a wheelie with the rear brake then a 12 is nothing.

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be there this summer, I can slow them down already but I still need to get a bar.

Goose

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*nags* · 01-04-2004, 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by Goose
Nags, I'm close to 12'ing my POS....as you can see from my AVATAR that day was only my 2nd time ever trying a 12. I think I did pretty good. You'll see more of it on our video: UNSANE RYDERZ "9 Lives"!!!! Its coming out in about a month on DVD!!!

Goose

don't forget to hook a brutha up

ZANE · 01-13-2004, 08:11 PM

I thought that learning on my dirtbike would help....but so far it seems realy twichy. is it more dificult on a dirbike or less. i know it is cheaper.

Goose · 01-13-2004, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by nags
don't forget to hook a brutha up

Most definately................

Goose

squeakdogg69 · 01-19-2004, 09:31 PM

You know, there is no easy way to learn to 12' a bike. Also most of the people replying on here have good ideas

I can tell you though, that I learned on an '03 DR-Z 125. There was no way I was going to try it on anything bigger. So I built a bar for the back and tried the high and slow thing just getting comfortable with the bike 1st. When I finally did get the balls to take it all the way back, It was like scrape, wobble, *@#$, hard on the back brake. When I finally did take it back, the bar was too short and the bike came over backwards. There is a theory of braking and control I must have forgot to study at that point. Plus I built a slightly longer bar now so there is more pressure on the rear tire instead of the bar(keeps the tire from spinnin' and helps forward momentum). This is a small bike though and I only weigh 130 lbs.

Practice is key, followed by going slow and lots of control on the rear brake, with control on the throttle hand as well. When I want to set it down I just tap the clutch with 1 finger about the same time I get on the rear brake and both tires are on the road again. I won't attempt to scrape/drag if the bike comes up feeling loose or off centered. KNow your limitations and know your machine, before you know it you'll be scraping all day. Everyone here could ramble on forever on this subject, there are alot of views here, and lots of good advice. The only advice I can give is know the bike, what you can do and practice practice practice. Your gonna fall learning this stuff.

bmacd · 01-20-2004, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DR1130

learn them on a 50 first to get a the whole concept down, you wreck a fifty you get up and try it again, you wreck your big bike your hurtin for a couple days

i don't care what anybody says...that fifty will do more damage than a full sized bike! It's real easy to get overconfident on those things.

-=bmacd=-

teamkawy55 · 01-22-2004, 08:24 AM

I learned to 12 on my motocross bike and on quads first, then get on ur bike and dont be scared slam the bitch and it'll treat you right if you treat her right. Start off easy on a nice straight and then go till you think you hit your limit, like others said if you wreck you wreck, wrecking means learning bro

locrotondo · 01-23-2004, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hayez

ive been trying to learn 12s but i just cant seem to get it all the way,im afraid im gonna hit to hard and either loop back words or go back a little to far and crunch my tail and lose control,whats the best way to get em right?should i put a 12 bar on to help?or should i just keep doing what im doing?

dirtyrider · 01-26-2004, 02:00 PM

[ practice practice practice. Your gonna fall learning this stuff.[/quote]

not really...i put my bar on and scraped in an hour with noooo crashing..
but you have to already have the idea of slow wheeling before you try and put it on the bar..

squeakdogg69 · 01-26-2004, 07:56 PM

What I meant was you're going to fall learning this "stuff" as in stunting, doing different tricks, trying to learn new stuff, etc. etc.. Everybody goes down eventually. Myself included

:YEAH

dirtyrider · 01-26-2004, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by squeakdogg69

What I meant was you're going to fall learning this "stuff" as in stunting, doing different tricks, trying to learn new stuff, etc. etc.. Everybody goes down eventually. Myself included

:YEAH

yea no dout

PMDizzle · 02-09-2004, 12:42 PM

I got two things to say , fiftys are ****ing dangerous , ive balled up harder on one of them more than i have on my big bizzike, and my question is , i have a 02 F4i and im 1 down in the front and 10 up in the back , im running a 15 - 56 combo, and my stock pipe hits before anything else, but i dont wana **** my D&D , but i dont know how i should go about chopping the stock pipe, should i cut the tip off and take a few inches outta the can , then re weld the tip back on ?

squeakdogg69 · 02-09-2004, 07:29 PM

On my cuz' F2 he's running about the same combo as you. With the D&D slip on we cut it where it goes into the header. On the joint where those 2 pieces of pipe meet, (the slip-on side) we were able to trim about an inch or a lil' more off where the slip-on goes into the header. Now with the 12 bar on the back the tip doesn't hit the road. Where b4 if he set it on the bar, the end of the pipe would hit the road and throw the bike all over. So see if you can trim it at the joint i'm talking about. Might be the simple fix you need man

SCRAPETHIS · 02-11-2004, 07:36 PM

i learned without a bar cause i thought it was cool but its alot better with a bar, more tricks obviously, but i dont think it matters if you learn with or without

Captain B · 02-15-2004, 01:03 PM

NO EASY WAY JUST TRY IT A TAKE A FEW SPILLS THEN YOU HAVE IT

Gixxer1k03 · 02-22-2004, 10:10 PM

YOU CAN DOOOIT!!!!!!!!! Just go for it!!!!!!!!!!1

ESonONE · 02-23-2004, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dark lotus

screw lowering the psi to 15!!!!

how often are you doing 12's?---I opt for all around aggresive riding......you know,crackin it up to speed.knee down in the corners.and loft a huge endo at whatever stoplight is next.if you lower your psi to that.and try and ride.its gonna suck.try and learn everything with stock gearing and pressure.THEN bust out the craftsman tool set and change sprockets and all that.

lotus is right its nice to be able to do all that slow wheelie crap but when you set your front tire down at 120 mph then you know you got some balls. I can do all that slow stunt crap by upping my rear sprocket and dropping my psi but where is the rush in doing it. Nothing better than flying down the highway on your rear pegs on one wheele in second gear weaving in and out of traffic. :YEAH

dirtyrider · 02-24-2004, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ESonONE

lotus is right its nice to be able to do all that slow wheelie crap but when you set your front tire down at 120 mph then you know you got some balls. I can do all that slow stunt crap by upping my rear sprocket and dropping my psi but where is the rush in doing it. Nothing better than flying down the highway on your rear pegs on one wheele in second gear weaving in and out of traffic. :YEAH

yea untill you get the wobbles ...

one time of catching the shakes comin down at 120 and i bet you'll slow your shit down

ESonONE · 02-24-2004, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtyrider

yea untill you get the wobbles ...

one time of catching the shakes comin down at 120 and i bet you'll slow your shit down

i have come down tank slappin before but if you know what your doing you can come out of a tank slap very easy. besides thats what a stabalizer is for.

dirtyrider · 02-24-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ESonONE

i have come down tank slappin before but if you know what your doing you can come out of a tank slap very easy. besides thats what a stabalizer is for.

you keep thinkin that...a stabilizer aint gon do shit for you at 120mph slapper

i think your just a squid that powers up them wheelies and has to stay in the gas to keep em up till you run outta gear and if your in 2nd then that would be around a buck20..

but if you know what your doing then keep wheeling at those speeds..

01-19-2004, 09:31 PM	#245
squeakdogg69 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hennepin, IL. Age: 29 Bike: Blata pocket bike, '03 dr-z125, '98 SuperHawk, looking at new R-6's Gender: Male Posts: 24	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? You know, there is no easy way to learn to 12' a bike. Also most of the people replying on here have good ideas I can tell you though, that I learned on an '03 DR-Z 125. There was no way I was going to try it on anything bigger. So I built a bar for the back and tried the high and slow thing just getting comfortable with the bike 1st. When I finally did get the balls to take it all the way back, It was like scrape, wobble, *@#$, hard on the back brake. When I finally did take it back, the bar was too short and the bike came over backwards. There is a theory of braking and control I must have forgot to study at that point. Plus I built a slightly longer bar now so there is more pressure on the rear tire instead of the bar(keeps the tire from spinnin' and helps forward momentum). This is a small bike though and I only weigh 130 lbs. Practice is key, followed by going slow and lots of control on the rear brake, with control on the throttle hand as well. When I want to set it down I just tap the clutch with 1 finger about the same time I get on the rear brake and both tires are on the road again. I won't attempt to scrape/drag if the bike comes up feeling loose or off centered. KNow your limitations and know your machine, before you know it you'll be scraping all day. Everyone here could ramble on forever on this subject, there are alot of views here, and lots of good advice. The only advice I can give is know the bike, what you can do and practice practice practice. Your gonna fall learning this stuff. __________________ "The man is constantly trying to hold me down"

01-22-2004, 08:24 AM	#247
teamkawy55 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Norwich, NY Age: 26 Bike: 01 gsxr 600, 01 kx125 Gender: Male Posts: 1	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? I learned to 12 on my motocross bike and on quads first, then get on ur bike and dont be scared slam the bitch and it'll treat you right if you treat her right. Start off easy on a nice straight and then go till you think you hit your limit, like others said if you wreck you wreck, wrecking means learning bro

01-26-2004, 02:00 PM	#249
dirtyrider Regular StuntLifer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: .. Age: 90 Bike: .. Gender: Male Posts: 834	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? [ practice practice practice. Your gonna fall learning this stuff.[/quote] not really...i put my bar on and scraped in an hour with noooo crashing.. but you have to already have the idea of slow wheeling before you try and put it on the bar..

01-26-2004, 07:56 PM	#250
squeakdogg69 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hennepin, IL. Age: 29 Bike: Blata pocket bike, '03 dr-z125, '98 SuperHawk, looking at new R-6's Gender: Male Posts: 24	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? What I meant was you're going to fall learning this "stuff" as in stunting, doing different tricks, trying to learn new stuff, etc. etc.. Everybody goes down eventually. Myself included :YEAH __________________ "The man is constantly trying to hold me down"

02-09-2004, 12:42 PM	#252
PMDizzle Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: halifax, nova scotia Age: 29 Bike: 02 F4i , 03 xr fiddy Gender: Male Posts: 34	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? I got two things to say , fiftys are **ing dangerous , ive balled up harder on one of them more than i have on my big bizzike, and my question is , i have a 02 F4i and im 1 down in the front and 10 up in the back , im running a 15 - 56 combo, and my stock pipe hits before anything else, but i dont wana ** my D&D , but i dont know how i should go about chopping the stock pipe, should i cut the tip off and take a few inches outta the can , then re weld the tip back on ?

01-13-2004, 08:11 PM	#243
ZANE Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: gainesville, fl Age: 33 Bike: www.StuntWorks.net Gender: Male Posts: 176	I thought that learning on my dirtbike would help....but so far it seems realy twichy. is it more dificult on a dirbike or less. i know it is cheaper.

02-09-2004, 07:29 PM	#253
squeakdogg69 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hennepin, IL. Age: 29 Bike: Blata pocket bike, '03 dr-z125, '98 SuperHawk, looking at new R-6's Gender: Male Posts: 24	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? On my cuz' F2 he's running about the same combo as you. With the D&D slip on we cut it where it goes into the header. On the joint where those 2 pieces of pipe meet, (the slip-on side) we were able to trim about an inch or a lil' more off where the slip-on goes into the header. Now with the 12 bar on the back the tip doesn't hit the road. Where b4 if he set it on the bar, the end of the pipe would hit the road and throw the bike all over. So see if you can trim it at the joint i'm talking about. Might be the simple fix you need man __________________ "The man is constantly trying to hold me down"

02-11-2004, 07:36 PM	#254
SCRAPETHIS Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: CELINA,OH Age: 30 Bike: CBR954 Gender: Male Posts: 7	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? i learned without a bar cause i thought it was cool but its alot better with a bar, more tricks obviously, but i dont think it matters if you learn with or without

02-15-2004, 01:03 PM	#255
Captain B Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: C-town FL Age: 27 Bike: 929 Gender: Male Posts: 158	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? NO EASY WAY JUST TRY IT A TAKE A FEW SPILLS THEN YOU HAVE IT

02-22-2004, 10:10 PM	#256
Gixxer1k03 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KENTUCKY Age: 33 Bike: 03GIXXER 1000, Pocket Bike, XR FIDDY,99GIXXER750, P.O.S F2,03 GIXXER 750 Gender: Male Posts: 296	Re: learn 12s the easist way??? YOU CAN DOOOIT!!!!!!!!! Just go for it!!!!!!!!!!1