Motard handbrake - Super Moto/Motards...

E-Loc540 · 07-24-2007, 09:46 PM

just wondering if anyone here is having trouble adapting to the handbrake on their motard.....I mean I can do sitdown seat standers and spreaders and ride at balance point but im having alot of trouble using the clutch at the same time....and a motard takes alot of clutch. anyone doing handbrake coasters....high chair coasters. and its weird using just the handbrake and no clutch...I think the clutch is the most important part of executing tricks on a motard.. I have ran a handbrake on both the left and the right side its just not working for me......c'mon Ryan Moore...chine in.

Ryan Moore · 07-26-2007, 10:43 PM

Its all about the setup, I run a msr pro rapter clutch, cut down a bit, stacked on top of the 1/2 inch nissan master. Index finger on the clutch, middle finger on the handbrake and use the both at the same time all the time. seat stander coaster, high chair circles, almost all my circle combos where I am not on the foot pedal, I am slipping the clutch and using the handbrake at the same time, clutch in most of the time coasting around in circles and stalling out at balance point into figure eigth combos. check the pic, clutch is pulled in doing a 2 foot in bar circle combo. It takes some practice time to get used to.

E-Loc540 · 07-27-2007, 11:06 PM

thanks mang.

jstuntlocke · 07-29-2007, 09:35 PM

My hydraulic set up on this KTM is a bit stiff.... I don't know if I'll be able to modulate it like my suzuki with the MSR.

Setting up the HB, I'm not worried about at all. It is definately the clutch pull that has me worried. I need to use two fingers most of the time now, anyone know of an easy-pull kit, or a good fix for a stiff hydrolic clutch lever?

I am starting to see how the need to slip the clutch will manifest itself as my skills are increasing quicker than I thought they would... I wonder how much will stunt gearing help the need to slip the clutch as much?

L.T.W · 07-29-2007, 10:16 PM

man keep the info comming ryan. when i get money hahah, i will know xactly how to set up my 450 you guys are awsome and i want your bikes hahaahah.

kaiks · 07-30-2007, 04:16 AM

Full throttle is gonna ave something coming out soon for the supermoto...and +1 for the KTM i wish it was cable clutch i want mines softer

E-Loc540 · 07-30-2007, 07:44 PM

yeah like I said before the most important control on a motard is the clutch.

kaiks · 08-12-2007, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by E-Loc540

yeah like I said before the most important control on a motard is the clutch.

how much clutch are you using in a circle?c cause today i was trying to get staggered circles and when i got reall!!!! slow it stalled and i chessed the bars pretty good...i have a vid of it once my fren sends it ill post it up

Ryan Moore · 08-13-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kaiks

how much clutch are you using in a circle?c cause today i was trying to get staggered circles and when i got reall!!!! slow it stalled and i chessed the bars pretty good...i have a vid of it once my fren sends it ill post it up

work that clutch!! No stallin

kaiks · 08-14-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Moore

work that clutch!! No stallin

is it a on and off clutch motion of like holding it in half way through the whole time

E-Loc540 · 08-15-2007, 01:51 AM

when I do sitdown circles im feathering the clutch the whole time...and constantly blipping the throttle and using the rear brake just a little bit...

kaiks · 08-15-2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by E-Loc540

when I do sitdown circles im feathering the clutch the whole time...and constantly blipping the throttle and using the rear brake just a little bit...

how slow are you bringint it? im like riding the brake constant throttle fluid motion give more and less chopping but smooth...and no clutch and it stalls like a bitch....how much clutch in u pulling

jstuntlocke · 08-15-2007, 11:27 AM

I found this while stumbling through youtube the other night, it might be old. but then again it might be so obscure that no one has seen it yet...

I'm not sure who it is, and how I even found it. But it had alot of good engine sounds I thought that might help you with slipping the clutch in circles. This guy obviously isn't the best at it either, but sometimes if I can just hear one of my friends bikes at the lot instead of hip-hop beats or something like on a DVD. It seems to help me out. Even the noises they make when they make mistakes will tell me what not to do.

I'm hoping all this advice helps me out too, I'm ready to transfer the fiddy skills to motard skills... and fiddy circles are all chop no drop, what is this crap about slippin the clutch?? LOL What am I going to do when I got to slip the clutch ANd work the hand brake at the same time?? LMAO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdDNPzXTG0

kaiks · 08-15-2007, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstuntlocke

I found this while stumbling through youtube the other night, it might be old. but then again it might be so obscure that no one has seen it yet...

I'm not sure who it is, and how I even found it. But it had alot of good engine sounds I thought that might help you with slipping the clutch in circles. This guy obviously isn't the best at it either, but sometimes if I can just hear one of my friends bikes at the lot instead of hip-hop beats or something like on a DVD. It seems to help me out. Even the noises they make when they make mistakes will tell me what not to do.

I'm hoping all this advice helps me out too, I'm ready to transfer the fiddy skills to motard skills... and fiddy circles are all chop no drop, what is this crap about slippin the clutch?? LOL What am I going to do when I got to slip the clutch ANd work the hand brake at the same time?? LMAO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdDNPzXTG0

thats wat im talking about :YEAH .....thanks a lot man

that helped out a little more by hearing it..now i get more of an idea...

E-Loc540 · 08-19-2007, 02:26 AM

Im on a 250'f so it may be different from you and im geared down pretty good too but I have to slip the clutch the whole time...heres a vid of my sitdown circles.......http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...eoid=87898 39

jstuntlocke · 08-31-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Loc540

Im on a 250'f so it may be different from you and im geared down pretty good too but I have to slip the clutch the whole time...heres a vid of my sitdown circles.......http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...eoid=87898 39

good post dude, nice little practice vids2. I like to see other motards in action.

JohnForLife · 09-08-2007, 05:50 PM

one clutch one handbrake i do the same on the bike bike

E-Loc540 · 09-12-2007, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnForLife

one clutch one handbrake i do the same on the bike bike

nice pic dude, that is an XR.....? 200-250?

07-24-2007, 09:46 PM	#1
E-Loc540 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Age: 27 Bike: 540Boyz-Motard YZ250F, Motocross CRF250 and KX125 Gender: Male Posts: 1,034	Motard handbrake just wondering if anyone here is having trouble adapting to the handbrake on their motard.....I mean I can do sitdown seat standers and spreaders and ride at balance point but im having alot of trouble using the clutch at the same time....and a motard takes alot of clutch. anyone doing handbrake coasters....high chair coasters. and its weird using just the handbrake and no clutch...I think the clutch is the most important part of executing tricks on a motard.. I have ran a handbrake on both the left and the right side its just not working for me......c'mon Ryan Moore...chine in.

07-26-2007, 10:43 PM	#2
Ryan Moore Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Grover Beach, CA Age: Bike: 50, 70, 450 f4i Gender: Male Posts: 305	Re: Motard handbrake Its all about the setup, I run a msr pro rapter clutch, cut down a bit, stacked on top of the 1/2 inch nissan master. Index finger on the clutch, middle finger on the handbrake and use the both at the same time all the time. seat stander coaster, high chair circles, almost all my circle combos where I am not on the foot pedal, I am slipping the clutch and using the handbrake at the same time, clutch in most of the time coasting around in circles and stalling out at balance point into figure eigth combos. check the pic, clutch is pulled in doing a 2 foot in bar circle combo. It takes some practice time to get used to. Last edited by Ryan Moore : 07-26-2007 at 10:46 PM.

07-27-2007, 11:06 PM	#3
E-Loc540 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Age: 27 Bike: 540Boyz-Motard YZ250F, Motocross CRF250 and KX125 Gender: Male Posts: 1,034	Re: Motard handbrake thanks mang.

07-29-2007, 09:35 PM	#4
jstuntlocke hunts and stunts Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: KC Age: 34 Bike: 02 F41, 06 gix-a-six Gender: Male Posts: 2,990	Re: Motard handbrake My hydraulic set up on this KTM is a bit stiff.... I don't know if I'll be able to modulate it like my suzuki with the MSR. Setting up the HB, I'm not worried about at all. It is definately the clutch pull that has me worried. I need to use two fingers most of the time now, anyone know of an easy-pull kit, or a good fix for a stiff hydrolic clutch lever? I am starting to see how the need to slip the clutch will manifest itself as my skills are increasing quicker than I thought they would... I wonder how much will stunt gearing help the need to slip the clutch as much?

07-29-2007, 10:16 PM	#5
L.T.W Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: longwood,florida,seminole Age: Bike: crf50 Gender: Male Posts: 537	Re: Motard handbrake man keep the info comming ryan. when i get money hahah, i will know xactly how to set up my 450 you guys are awsome and i want your bikes hahaahah.

07-30-2007, 04:16 AM	#6
kaiks Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hilo,Hawaii Age: 17 Bike: 01 F4izzle, TIT TICKLER, crf 50, KTM 450 stunt motard Gender: Male Posts: 927	Re: Motard handbrake Full throttle is gonna ave something coming out soon for the supermoto...and +1 for the KTM i wish it was cable clutch i want mines softer

07-30-2007, 07:44 PM	#7
E-Loc540 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Age: 27 Bike: 540Boyz-Motard YZ250F, Motocross CRF250 and KX125 Gender: Male Posts: 1,034	Re: Motard handbrake yeah like I said before the most important control on a motard is the clutch.

08-15-2007, 01:51 AM	#11
E-Loc540 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Age: 27 Bike: 540Boyz-Motard YZ250F, Motocross CRF250 and KX125 Gender: Male Posts: 1,034	Re: Motard handbrake when I do sitdown circles im feathering the clutch the whole time...and constantly blipping the throttle and using the rear brake just a little bit...

08-15-2007, 11:27 AM	#13
jstuntlocke hunts and stunts Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: KC Age: 34 Bike: 02 F41, 06 gix-a-six Gender: Male Posts: 2,990	Re: Motard handbrake I found this while stumbling through youtube the other night, it might be old. but then again it might be so obscure that no one has seen it yet... I'm not sure who it is, and how I even found it. But it had alot of good engine sounds I thought that might help you with slipping the clutch in circles. This guy obviously isn't the best at it either, but sometimes if I can just hear one of my friends bikes at the lot instead of hip-hop beats or something like on a DVD. It seems to help me out. Even the noises they make when they make mistakes will tell me what not to do. I'm hoping all this advice helps me out too, I'm ready to transfer the fiddy skills to motard skills... and fiddy circles are all chop no drop, what is this crap about slippin the clutch?? LOL What am I going to do when I got to slip the clutch ANd work the hand brake at the same time?? LMAO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vdDNPzXTG0

08-19-2007, 02:26 AM	#15
E-Loc540 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Age: 27 Bike: 540Boyz-Motard YZ250F, Motocross CRF250 and KX125 Gender: Male Posts: 1,034	Re: Motard handbrake Im on a 250'f so it may be different from you and im geared down pretty good too but I have to slip the clutch the whole time...heres a vid of my sitdown circles.......http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fusea...eoid=87898 39