Are we really that stupid?

o3r1dynoed · 08-29-2009, 10:51 PM

Seriously! I am ashamed of my fellow Americans on this and if you all disagree with me on this that's fine but I am personally disgusted....
TOP 10 VEHICLES PURCHASED DURING CASH FOR CLUNKERS:
1. Toyota Corolla
2. Honda Civic
3. Toyota Camry
4. Ford focus
5. Hyundai Elantra
6. Nissan Versa
7. Toyota Prius
8. Honda Accord
9. Honda Fit
10. Ford Escape
To hell with spending American money in America! Lets borrow 3 Billion Dollars
from a foreign country and send it all to another foreign country! To hell with helping OUR economy, lets all buy Japanese shiat. Damn I hope North Korea doesent start makin cars to fund their Nuclear missile projects cuz We'll definately buy their crap.

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PancakePete · 08-29-2009, 10:57 PM

Is that why the bike in your avi is a Harley?

k7-600 · 08-29-2009, 11:20 PM

I outsource for everything. That's my American dream!

old man roger · 08-29-2009, 11:33 PM

i said from the beginning that the cash for clunkers should only apply to american cars , i mean the objective was to help our economy right ?

o3r1dynoed · 08-29-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Civilly Disobey

Is that why the bike in your avi is a Harley?

unfortunatly Americans cant seem to put together a decent sportbike either...Thanx for reminding me

Dont get me wrong I love my Country but we do sum dum shiat sometimes...

jayrizo · 08-30-2009, 01:17 AM

if the american car companies didn't export all there jobs to other countries and not fuck over the american working man, then i would feel sorry for them but they screwed us over first and now they are paying for it. the number one cash for clunker car turned in was the ford explorer, the aisians make a cheaper more reliable car.

*Tanus* · 08-30-2009, 06:08 AM

speaking in general(not just cars,but all goods) its every americans fault for wanting to spend as little as possible on everything they buy. since china has no real labor laws and a workforce with a billion(literaly) more laborers, the us really can not even compeat. If they re-envoked the old import tarifs(sp?) that would help a ton, but those are long gone.

old man roger · 08-30-2009, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by *Tanus*

speaking in general(not just cars,but all goods) its every americans fault for wanting to spend as little as possible on everything they buy. since china has no real labor laws and a workforce with a billion(literaly) more laborers, the us really can not even compeat. If they re-envoked the old import tarifs(sp?) that would help a ton, but those are long gone.

yep tax them so the costs are comparative with american products

StrictlyStunt · 08-30-2009, 06:21 AM

have to remember. Half of the people that did the cash for clunkers drove

1. Toyota Corolla
2. Honda Civic
3. Toyota Camry
4. Ford focus
5. Hyundai Elantra
8. Honda Accord 's

already!

old duffer · 08-30-2009, 06:22 AM

They wanted people to trade in clunkers not buy more

old man roger · 08-30-2009, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by old duffer

They wanted people to trade in clunkers not buy more

the u s government gave $4500 to you if you traded in a gas guzzler for a new car that got better gas mileage than the one you had because our car companies were going bankrupt ..

PavementPounder · 08-30-2009, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by o3r1dynoed

unfortunatly Americans cant seem to put together a decent sportbike either...

You go to hell and you die!

stick1300 · 08-30-2009, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by old man roger

the u s government gave $4500 to you if you traded in a gas guzzler for a new car that got better gas mileage than the one you had because our car companies were going bankrupt ..

Too bad all the domestic made cars get worse mileage than the imports. That and sub-par reliability are largely what got them in the shape their in to begin with.

C6matt · 08-31-2009, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by stick1300

Too bad all the domestic made cars get worse mileage than the imports. That and sub-par reliability are largely what got them in the shape their in to begin with.

In the 80's this was true. It is not the case with todays current cars. Do some research

C6matt · 08-31-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrictlyStunt

have to remember. Half of the people that did the cash for clunkers drove

1. Toyota Corolla
2. Honda Civic
3. Toyota Camry
4. Ford focus
5. Hyundai Elantra
8. Honda Accord 's

already!

Weird, that thats not what the numbers say..

Top traded in under cash-4-clunkers

1. Ford Explorer 4WD
2. Ford F150 Pickup 2WD
3. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD
4. Jeep Cherokee 4WD
5. Ford Explorer 2WD
6. Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
7. Chevrolet Blazer 4WD
8. Ford F-150 Pickup 4WD
9. Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
10. Ford Windstar

oh8cbr600 · 08-31-2009, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C6matt

Weird, that thats not what the numbers say..

Top traded in under cash-4-clunkers

1. Ford Explorer 4WD
2. Ford F150 Pickup 2WD
3. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD
4. Jeep Cherokee 4WD
5. Ford Explorer 2WD
6. Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
7. Chevrolet Blazer 4WD
8. Ford F-150 Pickup 4WD
9. Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
10. Ford Windstar

Yep I could tell the cash for clunkers would be an epic fail. Everyone traded in domestics, and bought good cars (imports), and that didn't help the economy at all.
Maybe Obama should've tried getting rid of the unions, which is why american cars cost to value ratio is so terrible. If they sold a focus for 8 grand, I MIGHT consider driving one.

Even the whole concept of reducing emissions isn't going to happen tho. Because even with better fuel economy people are going to use more gas, because you drive more when you get a new car.

Unknown_Tom · 08-31-2009, 08:17 AM

Since you're so upset about it here's another way you can look at it. These Toyota's and Honda's that were bought were assembled in American factory's. So someone trades in their ford Taurus for a Camry they spend let's say $29,000 and got like $4,500 off or some shit. So they still need a $24,500 dollar loan, where do you think they go to get financed? That's right the good ol' American banks, banks accrue so much in interest on loans like these it stimulates the economy. So the Cash for clunkers has done 2 things put more money in the pockets of Americans and helped banks make more money that they can use it to invest and help make the stock market go up and in turn help us get out of this recession and make the cost of goods go down. The point of the cash for clunkers program was not to help out the American car companies although it did that too. If you feel so strongly about buying American goods maybe you should start stunting a Buel I hear they go real good.

C6matt · 08-31-2009, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oh8cbr600

Everyone traded in domestics, and bought good cars (imports), .

what backs this statment up.. how are they better? Numbers? statistics? Any facts here?

frayz · 08-31-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by C6matt

Weird, that thats not what the numbers say..

Top traded in under cash-4-clunkers

1. Ford Explorer 4WD
2. Ford F150 Pickup 2WD
3. Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD
4. Jeep Cherokee 4WD
5. Ford Explorer 2WD
6. Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
7. Chevrolet Blazer 4WD
8. Ford F-150 Pickup 4WD
9. Chevrolet C1500 Pickup 2WD
10. Ford Windstar

This is why i drive dodges

frayz · 08-31-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown_Tom

If you feel so strongly about buying American goods maybe you should start stunting a Buel I hear they go real good.

This seems to actually be a new trend

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08-31-2009, 08:17 AM	#17
Unknown_Tom Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Lewiston ME, USA Age: 27 Bike: My Burton snowboard Gender: Male Posts: 11,894	Re: Are we really that stupid? Since you're so upset about it here's another way you can look at it. These Toyota's and Honda's that were bought were assembled in American factory's. So someone trades in their ford Taurus for a Camry they spend let's say $29,000 and got like $4,500 off or some shit. So they still need a $24,500 dollar loan, where do you think they go to get financed? That's right the good ol' American banks, banks accrue so much in interest on loans like these it stimulates the economy. So the Cash for clunkers has done 2 things put more money in the pockets of Americans and helped banks make more money that they can use it to invest and help make the stock market go up and in turn help us get out of this recession and make the cost of goods go down. The point of the cash for clunkers program was not to help out the American car companies although it did that too. If you feel so strongly about buying American goods maybe you should start stunting a Buel I hear they go real good. __________________ I recommend you stop being such a fagot!!