Message from the sidelines - Stunt Discussion

sungwei · 01-12-2004, 09:27 PM

This is in response to Tony D’s post regarding the big names withdrawing from SL:

http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/show...threadid=53792 (Woods-Gorka-Chauncy and more!!!)

and is directed to all the bigger names who don’t want to be a part of the forum anymore:

I can certainly understand the frustration caused by unnecessary drama, arrogant remarks, and other BS that may come of a popular forum. Maybe as people get bigger they let it get to their head. But I think you kind have to expect that. It come comes with the territory.

Keep in mind though that there are a lot of people watching from the sidelines. People who are inspired and motivated watching the stunt shows. People who may not be pros, but really appreciate the sport. I'm one of those people.

Since I've been on this site I've learned a lot. Even more importantly I found a lot of support which has helped me improve. It's good to have a place where you know other people appreciate/support what you do especially those at the top of the game.

One of the greatest parts about this site is that some of the biggest names in the game are actually members. They actually interact with the site members and give great advice to the beginners like myself. To me that means a lot and really encourages me to improve my riding. It is great to be able to learn from and interact with some of the best riders. It makes a no-name like myself actually feel like I'm part of the sport and not just someone who hasn't "made it".

I think that this is really important for those of us who are just starting out. It would really be a real shame for all the bigger names in the sport to just back out of this site because of a handful of A-holes that happen to be members. Focus on what you have done for the site and stunting. Don't let some lame posts here and there ruin it for yourself and those of us who actually are trying to learn and appreciate stunting.

Ultimately the choice is up to you. But don’t forget that this is the only real connection for the many “low-profile” riders who appreciate what you guys do. Don’t overlook those of us that watch from the other side of the fence.

RedlineJimmy · 01-12-2004, 09:37 PM

Is there a reason why you just didn't reply to his post

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Brian~11 · 01-12-2004, 09:57 PM

Yep.....u just dont quit something because of some negative things.

More positives than negatives.

Got to remember your fans are here too.

I have asked some of these guys questions w/no replies...I t makes u wonder just how cool they are or if they really want to talk to their fans.

Fuk I dont care....I'm not quiting STUNLIFE.

jaxen112 · 01-12-2004, 10:14 PM

sungwei - you make a good point my man, A perspective from the other side of the fence. but at the end of the day I think it all comes back to the fact that business can destroy any partnership. and thats what stunting becomes to a professional rider, business.

imagine if all the energy invested into drama was instead put out in riding?!! wonder if the europeans beef like this.

Ryan Cramer · 01-12-2004, 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by jaxen112
sungwei - you make a good point my man, A perspective from the other side of the fence. but at the end of the day I think it all comes back to the fact that business can destroy any partnership. and thats what stunting becomes to a professional rider, business.

imagine if all the energy invested into drama was instead put out in riding?!! wonder if the europeans beef like this.

from what ive heard , europeons dont even hang out with eachother or even speak to one another, at a europeon event theres no such thing as an after party where all the riders are hangin out, kinda makes ya feel good that isnt how it is over here

MartyB · 01-12-2004, 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by RedlineJimmy
Is there a reason why you just didn't reply to his post .

probably feels intimidated by all the top riders big heads...

sungwei · 01-13-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by RedlineJimmy
Is there a reason why you just didn't reply to his post .

Kind of a long winded reply. And I felt that whole drama was directed toward certain people. Maybe people who have been here a while. Plus I just wanted to make the point that this place is cool cause everyone on this board communicates on all levels. Just a point of view from a non-pro.

sungwei · 01-13-2004, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by BlinginR6
probably feels intimidated by all the top riders big heads...

I don't wanna say I'm intimidated. That's not the most accurate word. I just felt what I had to say might be out of place.

Brian~11 · 01-13-2004, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by sungwei
I don't wanna say I'm intimidated. That's not the most accurate word. I just felt what I had to say might be out of place.

For what its worth ...I understand why u did it.

DSOG Thomas · 01-13-2004, 12:24 AM

thank you sungwei

RedlineJimmy · 01-13-2004, 01:30 AM

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Originally posted by sungwei
Kind of a long winded reply. And I felt that whole drama was directed toward certain people. Maybe people who have been here a while. Plus I just wanted to make the point that this place is cool cause everyone on this board communicates on all levels. Just a point of view from a non-pro.

Gotcha

! Don't worry about what Ant has to say.....he just posts so he can look at his own Avitar

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sungwei · 01-13-2004, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by ROCK~N~929

I have asked some of these guys questions w/no replies...I t makes u wonder just how cool they are or if they really want to talk to their fans.

Fuk I dont care....I'm not quiting STUNLIFE.

I don't PM certain people about "How-to-stunt" questions. I just don't feel comfortable. But there are some at the upper level that are very supportive and give good feedback and I wouldn't be afraid to ask.

Brian~11 · 01-13-2004, 02:33 AM

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Originally posted by sungwei
I don't PM certain people about "How-to-stunt" questions. I just don't feel comfortable. But there are some at the upper level that are very supportive and give good feedback and I wouldn't be afraid to ask.

Most Pro riders expect a certain amount of questions. They have to know they have fans on here or how toos that are gonna be asked. Some even pride there selves on answering questions.

I have found some cool and some not so cool. Both would surprise u. Not gonna name em...I dont work that way.

I dont have a problem asking anyone anything....Thats one of the points Tony D made is good luck trying this stuff on your own. But sometimes u ask em something and they dont respond...so I guess good luck on learning it on my own . huh...

I asked someone a question that they could of answered in four words=no reply

I'm in my 30s... Im comfortable w/who I am....Not afraid to ask anyone sh!t...Ya know Never too old/young to learn something new.

I agree w/ya some of these guys on here ruin it for the ones who want to learn new things stunts/mechanics.

I think alot of the B.S. though is between the riders its not all just the fans or posers.

sungwei · 01-13-2004, 02:39 AM

True, true. I feel you on that. The people I have PMed (non "high profile") and asked questions have respond immediately and with great answers that really helped.

A lot of people complain about this site, but I think it's one of the best things that happened for me stuntwise. Ever since I've been a member I haven't stopped thinking about stunts. That isn't entirely a good thing, but it just goes to show you how motivating it can be.

Tony D · 01-13-2004, 03:08 AM

OK alot of you have some really good points. You people dont see our prespective and the shit we have delt with for the sport. I apoligise if ive never returned someone"s question or try to help someone when I might have been having a bad day, I may be having girlfriend issues,or problems with my truck running that day,you get the point... I am still a regular dude dont prejudge me...

Kyle_PBZ · 01-13-2004, 03:30 AM

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Originally posted by DV8Ryan
from what ive heard , europeons dont even hang out with eachother or even speak to one another, at a europeon event theres no such thing as an after party where all the riders are hangin out, kinda makes ya feel good that isnt how it is over here

I'm really glad it's not like that here! Hell, I like to party as much as I like to ride. That's really the best part of our sport as I see it, the fact that when it's comp time everybody puts on their game face and is serious, but, as soon as your done everybody is still freinds win or lose, then it's time to party!

Ryan Cramer · 01-13-2004, 03:42 AM

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Originally posted by Kyle_PBZ
I'm really glad it's not like that here! Hell, I like to party as much as I like to ride. That's really the best part of our sport as I see it, the fact that when it's comp time everybody puts on their game face and is serious, but, as soon as your done everybody is still freinds win or lose, then it's time to party!

that right there is why i love this sport

TIM · 01-13-2004, 04:15 AM

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Originally posted by DV8Ryan
that right there is why i love this sport

dick head go get drunk and laid and get off stuntlife or your vacations are going to be revoked

Ryan Cramer · 01-13-2004, 04:31 AM

its monday nite and my flight leaves early, i cant get drunk

DUK · 01-13-2004, 04:33 AM

i hope the things i say aren't takin the wrong way cause i love hangin with all ya'll!!!!!
sometimes a certain topic just rubs different people different ways

i never would diss someone or something on a computer without a little humor to it
stunting puts a smile on my face and thats why i do it, not for headaches....
if you know me you know i like to laugh and thats what i do..... laugh!!!!!!!!!!!
i'll continue to laugh when riding wheelies and when hearing and seeing people act , well lets just say different they really are.

no disrespect to anyone and hopefully the vibe changes real soon

01-12-2004, 09:27 PM	#1
sungwei Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TRV Age: 29 Bike: NA Gender: Male Posts: 347	Message from the sidelines This is in response to Tony D’s post regarding the big names withdrawing from SL: http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/show...threadid=53792 (Woods-Gorka-Chauncy and more!!!) and is directed to all the bigger names who don’t want to be a part of the forum anymore: I can certainly understand the frustration caused by unnecessary drama, arrogant remarks, and other BS that may come of a popular forum. Maybe as people get bigger they let it get to their head. But I think you kind have to expect that. It come comes with the territory. Keep in mind though that there are a lot of people watching from the sidelines. People who are inspired and motivated watching the stunt shows. People who may not be pros, but really appreciate the sport. I'm one of those people. Since I've been on this site I've learned a lot. Even more importantly I found a lot of support which has helped me improve. It's good to have a place where you know other people appreciate/support what you do especially those at the top of the game. One of the greatest parts about this site is that some of the biggest names in the game are actually members. They actually interact with the site members and give great advice to the beginners like myself. To me that means a lot and really encourages me to improve my riding. It is great to be able to learn from and interact with some of the best riders. It makes a no-name like myself actually feel like I'm part of the sport and not just someone who hasn't "made it". I think that this is really important for those of us who are just starting out. It would really be a real shame for all the bigger names in the sport to just back out of this site because of a handful of A-holes that happen to be members. Focus on what you have done for the site and stunting. Don't let some lame posts here and there ruin it for yourself and those of us who actually are trying to learn and appreciate stunting. Ultimately the choice is up to you. But don’t forget that this is the only real connection for the many “low-profile” riders who appreciate what you guys do. Don’t overlook those of us that watch from the other side of the fence. __________________ Lawrence

01-12-2004, 09:37 PM	#2
RedlineJimmy www.Redline-Xtreme.com Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Age: 30 Bike: 04' 636 Gender: Male Posts: 3,196	Is there a reason why you just didn't reply to his post . __________________ Check it Out: www.Redline-Xtreme.com http://www.myspace.com/redlinejimmy

01-12-2004, 10:14 PM	#4
jaxen112 Regular StuntLifer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NYC Age: 32 Bike: Repsol/f4i Gender: Male Posts: 433	there goes thread nazi Redlinejimmy running his mouth again with nothing good to say! sungwei - you make a good point my man, A perspective from the other side of the fence. but at the end of the day I think it all comes back to the fact that business can destroy any partnership. and thats what stunting becomes to a professional rider, business. imagine if all the energy invested into drama was instead put out in riding?!! wonder if the europeans beef like this.

01-13-2004, 12:24 AM	#10
DSOG Thomas Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: wherever the $$$ is Age: Bike: half as many as kane Gender: Male Posts: 5,900	thank you sungwei __________________ --Stuntride Magazine and Calendar-- www.stuntridemag.com --Forums-- www.stuntride.com

01-13-2004, 02:39 AM	#14
sungwei Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: TRV Age: 29 Bike: NA Gender: Male Posts: 347	True, true. I feel you on that. The people I have PMed (non "high profile") and asked questions have respond immediately and with great answers that really helped. A lot of people complain about this site, but I think it's one of the best things that happened for me stuntwise. Ever since I've been a member I haven't stopped thinking about stunts. That isn't entirely a good thing, but it just goes to show you how motivating it can be. __________________ Lawrence

01-12-2004, 09:57 PM	#3
Brian~11 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lonestar Age: Bike: 929 Gender: Male Posts: 1,490	Yep.....u just dont quit something because of some negative things. More positives than negatives. Got to remember your fans are here too. I have asked some of these guys questions w/no replies...I t makes u wonder just how cool they are or if they really want to talk to their fans. Fuk I dont care....I'm not quiting STUNLIFE.

01-13-2004, 03:08 AM	#15
Tony D FREESTYLE ARTIST Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NJ/NY/CA Age: 30 Bike: 05 636, 99 zx7,02 cr250 Gender: Male Posts: 1,099	OK alot of you have some really good points. You people dont see our prespective and the shit we have delt with for the sport. I apoligise if ive never returned someone"s question or try to help someone when I might have been having a bad day, I may be having girlfriend issues,or problems with my truck running that day,you get the point... I am still a regular dude dont prejudge me... __________________ contact anthony@tonydfreestyle.com www.tonydfreestyle.com myspace.com/tonydfreestyle

01-13-2004, 04:31 AM	#19
Ryan Cramer u of m still sux Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: OSU '07 Age: 28 Bike: gixxer 6 Gender: Male Posts: 2,320	its monday nite and my flight leaves early, i cant get drunk

01-13-2004, 04:33 AM	#20
DUK Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: everywhere Age: Bike: who cares Gender: Posts: 336	i hope the things i say aren't takin the wrong way cause i love hangin with all ya'll!!!!! sometimes a certain topic just rubs different people different ways i never would diss someone or something on a computer without a little humor to it stunting puts a smile on my face and thats why i do it, not for headaches.... if you know me you know i like to laugh and thats what i do..... laugh!!!!!!!!!!! i'll continue to laugh when riding wheelies and when hearing and seeing people act , well lets just say different they really are. no disrespect to anyone and hopefully the vibe changes real soon