How to what clutch assembly you have? - Page 3

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreamU2Sleep

YES there is 1 fiber plate that has a larger diameter hole to accomadate the judder spring... This fiber and the judder spring are to be the first installed. FYI

Refer to OMR's response... other than barnett clutches and such, all the fiber plates are the same size as the one to go around the judder spring.

im confused now ..lol

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old man roger · 10-20-2009, 04:05 PM

and none of the bikes i ever did a clutch on had a judder spring , isnt that just a honda dirt bike thing ?

ScreamU2Sleep · 10-20-2009, 04:34 PM

sorry let me simplify... OEM honda and kawi have judder springs and a fiber plate with a bigger hole.
I have done barnett clutches on an 03 636 and 01 F4i, Not sure about other after market brands, but barnett fibers are all the same so you cant fuck it up...

Get it?

ScreamU2Sleep · 10-20-2009, 04:38 PM

http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...4-2001/o/m2050 you may have to select clutch under the sub menu...
Look at #12 JUDDER SPRING
And 6,7 FRICTION PLATE
8 is FRICTION "B" PLATE (the one installed around the judder spring)

See, simple huh?

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreamU2Sleep

sorry let me simplify... OEM honda and kawi have judder springs and a fiber plate with a bigger hole.
I have done barnett clutches on an 03 636 and 01 F4i, Not sure about other after market brands, but barnett fibers are all the same so you cant fuck it up...

Get it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScreamU2Sleep

http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...4-2001/o/m2050 you may have to select clutch under the sub menu...
Look at #12 JUDDER SPRING
And 6,7 FRICTION PLATE
8 is FRICTION "B" PLATE (the one installed around the judder spring)

See, simple huh?

no need to get snippy

im just saying none of the bikes i have done clutches on have had the judder spring and i never bothered to look and see if the fibers were different and i never had any problems ..

ive done a shit load of dirt bike clutches and quite a few 636 clutches and i always use oem fibers ..

Talen · 10-22-2009, 07:54 PM

Jesus Christ is there anything OMR doesnt know? Put in stock springs tonight.......WE GOT BUTTER. I guess my fingers are even used to the aftermarket springs also cause its so easy it feels like Im cheating.

now I gott just wait for this gasket material to cure. Thanks ROG! and everyone else that said it was the springs.

PS I got em for 5 bucks. Yeah!

old man roger · 10-23-2009, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Talen

Jesus Christ is there anything OMR doesnt know? Put in stock springs tonight.......WE GOT BUTTER. I guess my fingers are even used to the aftermarket springs also cause its so easy it feels like Im cheating.

now I gott just wait for this gasket material to cure. Thanks ROG! and everyone else that said it was the springs.

PS I got em for 5 bucks. Yeah!

sweet

EGO · 10-23-2009, 02:49 AM

what's funny is no one said anything about the metals that have a front a back also. There is a sharp edge to one side and a smooth edge to the other. From all the fools at the classes I have to take working for a dealers the company reps say smooth edge out. Really I tried it both ways and didn't change anything. I am sure you could mix and match edges and it wouldn't matter lol but they beat it into you to do it one way in class.

old man roger · 10-23-2009, 02:53 AM

flat is flat

lee majors · 10-23-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EGO

what's funny is no one said anything about the metals that have a front a back also. There is a sharp edge to one side and a smooth edge to the other. From all the fools at the classes I have to take working for a dealers the company reps say smooth edge out. Really I tried it both ways and didn't change anything. I am sure you could mix and match edges and it wouldn't matter lol but they beat it into you to do it one way in class.

not true. steels can go either way.

its true that stock fibers have two plates that are different from the others. one that has a smaller inside diameter(the same outside diameter) and the other with a larger inside diameter(the same outside diameter) as the others. so you looking at inside diameter, not outside. at least this is true for honda.
another thing i should mention is that often after installing new fibers they can get whats called glazing if they are pushed too hard, too soon. this will make the clutch feel like it dumps all at once. you can usually get rid of glazing by slipping the clutch with the brake on (like a burnout. but with your weight on the seat). bog it down as much as possible without spinning the tire free.

10-20-2009, 04:05 PM	#42
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,247	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? and none of the bikes i ever did a clutch on had a judder spring , isnt that just a honda dirt bike thing ? __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE RIGHTEOUSSTUNTMETAL,COM STRICTLYSTUNT.COM

10-20-2009, 04:34 PM	#43
ScreamU2Sleep Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida U.S.A. Bike: 01 F4izzy Gender: Male Posts: 162	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? sorry let me simplify... OEM honda and kawi have judder springs and a fiber plate with a bigger hole. I have done barnett clutches on an 03 636 and 01 F4i, Not sure about other after market brands, but barnett fibers are all the same so you cant fuck it up... Get it? __________________ Do us all a Favor and go clean your mouth out with buck shot!!!

10-20-2009, 04:38 PM	#44
ScreamU2Sleep Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida U.S.A. Bike: 01 F4izzy Gender: Male Posts: 162	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...4-2001/o/m2050 you may have to select clutch under the sub menu... Look at #12 JUDDER SPRING And 6,7 FRICTION PLATE 8 is FRICTION "B" PLATE (the one installed around the judder spring) See, simple huh? __________________ Do us all a Favor and go clean your mouth out with buck shot!!!

10-22-2009, 07:54 PM	#46
Talen Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Bike: Kawi 636 Gender: Male Posts: 1,603	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? Jesus Christ is there anything OMR doesnt know? Put in stock springs tonight.......WE GOT BUTTER. I guess my fingers are even used to the aftermarket springs also cause its so easy it feels like Im cheating. now I gott just wait for this gasket material to cure. Thanks ROG! and everyone else that said it was the springs. PS I got em for 5 bucks. Yeah!

10-23-2009, 02:49 AM	#48
EGO REDBULL MAKES ME AWESOME Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: trexlertown PA Age: 31 Bike: tastycakes Gender: Male Posts: 915	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? what's funny is no one said anything about the metals that have a front a back also. There is a sharp edge to one side and a smooth edge to the other. From all the fools at the classes I have to take working for a dealers the company reps say smooth edge out. Really I tried it both ways and didn't change anything. I am sure you could mix and match edges and it wouldn't matter lol but they beat it into you to do it one way in class. __________________ www.montgomeryvillecc.com American powder coating & performance

10-23-2009, 02:53 AM	#49
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,247	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? flat is flat __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE RIGHTEOUSSTUNTMETAL,COM STRICTLYSTUNT.COM