How to what clutch assembly you have? - Page 2

old man roger · 10-19-2009, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crashtest 750

could have the clutch stack wrong. if you have the smaller fiber on the inside of the basket instead of the outside it will make it harder to slip.

huh ? mine were all the same size

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B0arder606 · 10-19-2009, 09:39 PM

Bikebandit.com for oem stuff. pretty fast shipping and cheaper than the dealer.

Those are OEM plates it looks like. The springs i have no idea about.

I had this same problem but my clutch would not disengage no matter what i did. Brand new clutch cable no kinks nothing worked. So i ripped the cover off replaced the springs and 100 bucks worth of other parts and at least i can pull the clutch in now haha

Talen · 10-19-2009, 09:46 PM

how much are oem springs about? nevermind checkin bikeband.......

IMR-Merlin · 10-19-2009, 09:49 PM

Stupid question, but are you running an EZ pull or have you done the ez pull mod on the clutch arm?

Stock fibers are cheap, but it sounds like you have aftermarket springs. Without a spring press, you might not be able to tell the difference by measuring length. When i doubt, just order up a set of springs/fibers and call it a day.

Talen · 10-19-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IMR-Merlin

Stupid question, but are you running an EZ pull or have you done the ez pull mod on the clutch arm?

Stock fibers are cheap, but it sounds like you have aftermarket springs. Without a spring press, you might not be able to tell the difference by measuring length. When i doubt, just order up a set of springs/fibers and call it a day.

yeah going that route but broke so just going to do the springs for right now... I mentioned the arm mod earlier, heard it messes up the travel of the clutch lever?

old man roger · 10-19-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Talen

yeah going that route but broke so just going to do the springs for right now... I mentioned the arm mod earlier, heard it messes up the travel of the clutch lever?

the clutch arm mod increases the throw a little , the longer you extend it the longer the throw ... with an easy pull lever 5/8 of an inch is the most i would go or you get to the point where you have to run the cable tight to get it to disengage

IMR-Merlin · 10-19-2009, 10:02 PM

I just did about 5/8" on a 929 with a stock perch. Made the pull a lot more manageable.

MiNi GuineA · 10-19-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Talen

yeah going that route but broke so just going to do the springs for right now... I mentioned the arm mod earlier, heard it messes up the travel of the clutch lever?

Just hit me up, I have a spare set up if you wanna swap me springs

MiNi GuineA · 10-19-2009, 10:09 PM

I also have a modded arm.. wherez yo dollarzzz

crashtest 750 · 10-20-2009, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

huh ? mine were all the same size

There is a slightly thinner fiber and plate.

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by crashtest 750

There is a slightly thinner fiber and plate.

hhmm i never noticed and i have done quite a few clutches

Talen · 10-20-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MiNi GuineA

I also have a modded arm.. wherez yo dollarzzz

Did you finally do the extended arm mod too?

Towlieee · 10-20-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Talen

yeah I can do that mod but I was holding off because some were saying the clutch travel messes things up? Wheres a good place to get the oem springs anyway?

longer clutch pull is better for stunting, it gives you more control, you are able to slip the clutch easier instead of just dumping it into gear.

It's kinda like having a longer pull throttle, f4i' has a long pull throttle, makes it easy to control the throttle, a r6 has a short pull throttle, makes it real touchy

Towlieee · 10-20-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crashtest 750

There is a slightly thinner fiber and plate.

depends on the bike

f4i's I'm pretty sure have all the same size plates, whereas a 600rr has one different sized plate I'm pretty sure

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 04:09 PM

guess i will pay closer attention next time im doing a clutch but to be honest i have never noticed before

MiNi GuineA · 10-20-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Talen

Did you finally do the extended arm mod too?

I did It when I first got the bike. I hated it.. On the 636 I like it.. Its over kill imo. My extended ez pull lever is just as easy and none of the drag

MikeM · 10-20-2009, 04:26 PM

do it ghetto and leave one or two of the springs out

old man roger · 10-20-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MiNi GuineA

I did It when I first got the bike. I hated it.. On the 636 I like it.. Its over kill imo. My extended ez pull lever is just as easy and none of the drag

what drag are you talking about ? i did it so i didnt have to get an easy pull because all the easy pulls available at the time were junk but now rightous has finally made a good one

*Tanus* · 10-20-2009, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeM

do it ghetto and leave one or two of the springs out

haha, I like that trick in your avy, gonna try it tonight

ScreamU2Sleep · 10-20-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

guess i will pay closer attention next time im doing a clutch but to be honest i have never noticed before

YES there is 1 fiber plate that has a larger diameter hole to accomadate the judder spring... This fiber and the judder spring are to be the first installed. FYI

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Originally Posted by MiNi GuineA

I did It when I first got the bike. I hated it.. On the 636 I like it.. Its over kill imo. My extended ez pull lever is just as easy and none of the drag

You only hated it cuz you suck... That extended E-Z pull is horrible also.

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Originally Posted by Towlieee

depends on the bike

f4i's I'm pretty sure have all the same size plates, whereas a 600rr has one different sized plate I'm pretty sure

Refer to OMR's response... other than barnett clutches and such, all the fiber plates are the same size as the one to go around the judder spring.

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Originally Posted by Talen

Did you finally do the extended arm mod too?

Ted, dont listen to Mini he is just after your asshole and we all know it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeM

do it ghetto and leave one or two of the springs out

That is the worst idea EVER!

10-19-2009, 09:39 PM	#22
B0arder606 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Age: 19 Bike: F4i, F4 and a 50 Gender: Male Posts: 720	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? Bikebandit.com for oem stuff. pretty fast shipping and cheaper than the dealer. Those are OEM plates it looks like. The springs i have no idea about. I had this same problem but my clutch would not disengage no matter what i did. Brand new clutch cable no kinks nothing worked. So i ripped the cover off replaced the springs and 100 bucks worth of other parts and at least i can pull the clutch in now haha

10-19-2009, 09:46 PM	#23
Talen Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Florida Bike: Honda ATC 70 Gender: Male Posts: 1,575	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? how much are oem springs about? nevermind checkin bikeband.......

10-19-2009, 09:49 PM	#24
IMR-Merlin Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ManchVegas, NH Bike: 01 Gixxer 1K, 04 636 Gender: Male Posts: 3,242	Re: How to what clutch assembly you have? Stupid question, but are you running an EZ pull or have you done the ez pull mod on the clutch arm? Stock fibers are cheap, but it sounds like you have aftermarket springs. Without a spring press, you might not be able to tell the difference by measuring length. When i doubt, just order up a set of springs/fibers and call it a day. __________________ Please visit out sponsors www.maxsalvage.com

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10-20-2009, 04:26 PM	#37
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