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Old 03-18-2009, 04:32 PM   #21
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the longer you leave the broken cct in there the more teeth break off and they go in your gear box that and the valve timing will be off so the bike will have less and less power as more teeth break off ...
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We should do a pole. I wounder how many people have ran their bike to high mileage without an adj. tensioner, how many people do the mod to prevent blowing the motor, and how many people have actually blown their motor by not doing the mod?
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Re: adjusted my f4i cam chain tensioner

i just bought a new stock cct from honda. the owner told me they are on the 4 edition of them so they have recieved alot of improvements. im thinkin they last alot longer now so i would just go with a new stocker just make sure they arent givin you one thats been sittin around awhile and is an old edition.
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Re: adjusted my f4i cam chain tensioner

omr and towlieee are both right, there's a spring inside that normally wears out, causing the stock cct not to extend out when the chain starts to wear/stretch. That causes it to vibrate and break off the teeth on some cases. Any bike i get, i install a man. cct from the start. I do just as omr said as per adjusting, i just go about 1/4 turn after the noise stops.. I installed/adjusted the one on my 04 636 last march, and have yet to adjust it since.....
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i just bought a new stock cct from honda. the owner told me they are on the 4 edition of them so they have recieved alot of improvements. im thinkin they last alot longer now so i would just go with a new stocker just make sure they arent givin you one thats been sittin around awhile and is an old edition.
manual cct = never fail .
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just ordered mine
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omr and towlieee are both right, there's a spring inside that normally wears out, causing the stock cct not to extend out when the chain starts to wear/stretch. That causes it to vibrate and break off the teeth on some cases. Any bike i get, i install a man. cct from the start. I do just as omr said as per adjusting, i just go about 1/4 turn after the noise stops.. I installed/adjusted the one on my 04 636 last march, and have yet to adjust it since.....
My stock cct doesn't need replacement, at least yet. Do you recommend I still buy an adjustable one to prevent any issues from arising and seeing that it's enevitable that I going to have to replace it.
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Re: adjusted my f4i cam chain tensioner

i replace them on any bike i get, need it or not.... personal preference really, either wait till it goes bad and maybe have the money, or just buy it when you have the money and not worry about it anymore....
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manual cct = never fail .
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and considering a manual cct cost the same as a stock one, I don't know why people still use stock replacements

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My stock cct doesn't need replacement, at least yet. Do you recommend I still buy an adjustable one to prevent any issues from arising and seeing that it's enevitable that I going to have to replace it.
How many miles are on your bike?
Whats it sound like if you hold the rpm at 3,500-4,000?

If it sounds like its buzzing/rattling/clanging, then its your cam chain tensoner most likely
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its like 65 bucks shipped...just do it
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Re: adjusted my f4i cam chain tensioner

The shop that I buy stuff from said I need a CCT but wanted to charge me 120 to install is this worth it or can i do this job on my own? this is not a cage or sliders something i could just figure out. can I mess this up or is it a simple swap?
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The shop that I buy stuff from said I need a CCT but wanted to charge me 120 to install is this worth it or can i do this job on my own? this is not a cage or sliders something i could just figure out. can I mess this up or is it a simple swap?
It's pretty simple really, just a pain to access the bolts, it takes a couple hours to do (because of how hard the bolts are to get to)

The only thing that could go wrong is if you set the tension wrong.. Too loose you skip a tooth on timing and bend valves.. Too tight and you stretch your chain and it breaks.
But its not hard... Just snug the adjusted against the chain, losen it like 1/8 turn, start bike up.. If it rattles still tighten it tell it stops, if it doesn't rattle losen it tell it does rattle then just tighten it a little tell it stop...

If you were around here i'd do it for some alcohol!
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Re: adjusted my f4i cam chain tensioner

ya bummer its hard to find good work without really paying alot for it on the island I think im dealing with the best shop here he is just a little slow with the work. Do you know anyone out in hawaii who could show me some safe spots to practice with out getting messed with by cops.
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and considering a manual cct cost the same as a stock one, I don't know why people still use stock replacements



How many miles are on your bike?
Whats it sound like if you hold the rpm at 3,500-4,000?

If it sounds like its buzzing/rattling/clanging, then its your cam chain tensoner most likely
Around 6k miles and I haven't noticed any rattling

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Around 6k miles and I haven't noticed any rattling
Thats typically 'around' where it starts

yours might be fine tell 10k+ or they could make sound at like 2k miles



I'd say your fine running what you got tell it starts rattling.. But once it rattles ,just replace it with the ape
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Re: adjusted my f4i cam chain tensioner

Anybody have a picture of where the tensioner is?
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i usually adjust mine when the bike is up to normal running temp and i back it out till it rattles then i tighten it down till the noise stops then i give it a rev or two just to see if it rattles and then i give it about a 1/16 th of a turn
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Mine also started to rattle again after a year, so I tightened it up about 1/8 turn more
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Anybody have a picture of where the tensioner is?
It's on the right side of the motor below the back side of the throttle bodies..

It's right down by the motor mount

You gotta take the fuel tank and air box off, and even then, its hard as hell to get a wrench on the bolts..

I did it just fine though, took me forever to tighten the bolts, then again I'm skinny so my hands fit in their
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i think the ones i have looked at were apart , there were teeth that keep the tensioner from going back in , it only allows it to extend not retract
Your not talkin about the cam sprocket teeth are you Rog?
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We should do a pole. I wounder how many people have ran their bike to high mileage without an adj. tensioner, how many people do the mod to prevent blowing the motor, and how many people have actually blown their motor by not doing the mod?
IMO - its $50. May as well pay the $50 to insure that nothing goes wrong. I could see if it were a $500 part or something retarded like that but for $50 theres no question on whether you should replace it or not. Again, just my opinion
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