1000rr Fork seals SUCK - Stunt Discussion

kj · 04-13-2008, 02:48 PM

Well I've heard all the rumors about the 1000rr fork seals blowing real easy... but thought they weren't true cause I have 2 sets of these and haven't had any problems..... until yesterday.

Uh yea... they suck. I don't mousetrap very hard or very often and I do not strap my bike down tight at all. But yesterday, for no apparent reason... the right side seal decided to blow out and proceed to spray fluid ALL OVER MY BRAKE PADS AND ROTOR.

Which did a great job of killing my braking power and swiftly putting an end to stoppie practice for the rest of the week.

These were practically brand new forks as well... with not so much as a smudge or cunt hair on the tubes.

Man I'm pissed... I love the forks w/ radial brakes and big rotors for stoppies, but if I'm gonna have to be taking my front end apart every other month for new seals I'm gonna be one unhappy, cranky ass old man bastard.

Well... at least I can put some heavier weight fluid in em now.

sdfkillz · 04-13-2008, 02:59 PM

ive seen the 600rr seals blow super easy, i thought the 1000rr were supposed to be better, i had one on my f4i and it held up great. then again i only weigh 150lbs.

*nags* · 04-13-2008, 03:09 PM

I told you lol

kj · 04-13-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sdfkillz

ive seen the 600rr seals blow super easy, i thought the 1000rr were supposed to be better, i had one on my f4i and it held up great. then again i only weigh 150lbs.

I'm not a big dude either... only 180 soakin wet

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Originally Posted by nags

I told you lol

yep... you did

*nags* · 04-13-2008, 03:35 PM

One of the guys down here has an F4i "stunt bike" and a mint CBR1000... He hasn't rode the RR in like 6 months so he took the front end off and put it on the F4i. He came out the other night for the first time on that setup. He rolled about 4 stoppies from about 12mph and as soon as he parked we saw the waterfall coming out of his forks lol

lee majors · 04-13-2008, 03:48 PM

hmmmm.... i hope the 600rr ones i got don't have the same problem.

i've rebuilt forks and changed fork seals a lot and i think the key to keeping them from leaking or blowing is this:

when your driving the seal on. hit it way harder and way more times then you have to. i'm convinced this spreads the seal out a little. i've never had any forks i do this way even leak a little.

eazenutz33 · 04-13-2008, 05:25 PM

mousetrapping and weight dont normally blow seals out....its tiny specs of dirt and shit....get a set of Seal Savers and put em on your forks and you wont replace fork seals again!

SliverR6 · 04-13-2008, 08:18 PM

I had a problem with mine early last season but everything has been fine since I had them built back to oem specs.

kj · 04-13-2008, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by eazenutz33

mousetrapping and weight dont normally blow seals out....its tiny specs of dirt and shit....get a set of Seal Savers and put em on your forks and you wont replace fork seals again!

Aparently not when it comes to 1000rr forks...

These were brand new.... had about 400mi on em at best.... cleaner then my old wrinkley balls after a fresh shaving session.

Seal saver wouldn't have done shit.... I've beat the ever livin piss outta my old f4i forks for 3 seasons w/ never cleaning them, let alone looking at them.

These forks suck ass.....

lee majors · 04-13-2008, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SliverR6

I had a problem with mine early last season but everything has been fine since I had them built back to oem specs.

+1 oem seals all the way

Tubba · 04-13-2008, 09:49 PM

Same here bro I gotta replace my seals on my bike......just part of stunting

punishmentcycle · 04-13-2008, 10:08 PM

the 92954 aren't any better.......on my second set of seals in 6 months

kj · 04-13-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tubba

Same here bro I gotta replace my seals on my bike......just part of stunting

hmm....

in 3 1/2 years of stunting, this is only the 2nd set of seals that I've ever had go.

1st was on a 954 front end... from strapping my bike down too tight and leaving it in the back of the truck for too long... and if it wasn't that it was the every day slamming down of the front end due to just learning idle wheelies.

This seems to be more than "just part of stunting"... as I've already run into just about every problem that comes from "stunting".

This is definetly an oem problem w/ weak seals that aparently blow from nothing.

lee majors · 04-13-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kj

hmm....

in 3 1/2 years of stunting, this is only the 2nd set of seals that I've ever had go.

1st was on a 954 front end... from strapping my bike down too tight and leaving it in the back of the truck for too long... and if it wasn't that it was the every day slamming down of the front end due to just learning idle wheelies.

This seems to be more than "just part of stunting"... as I've already run into just about every problem that comes from "stunting".

This is definetly an oem problem w/ weak seals that aparently blow from nothing.

like i said, do em yourself and bang em on good and hard with the driver and you'll be good. trust!

*Tanus* · 04-14-2008, 01:04 AM

from what Ive seen inverted fork seals blow way more often than conventional forks

*nags* · 04-14-2008, 01:12 AM

And with conventional forks if they do blow you're not as likely to notice for a while. So thats a plus as well

eazenutz33 · 04-14-2008, 02:12 AM

I had a 1000RR front end, it had ohlins internals but stock seals and with seal savers it never had a problem....same with my current 954 forks....haven't changed seals in a LONG time...almost 2 years prolly.

I played the same game with my old 600RR seals and I put seal savers on those forks and didnt have seals blow all the way thru until I sold the front end when I bought the 1000RR front end.

Sounds like it wouldnt help, but it really does!

inolen · 04-17-2008, 12:58 PM

Kj, would you clean out your pm's?

Mr. Farley · 04-17-2008, 01:03 PM

I've never blown out seals. **Knock on wood** But I try not to mousetrap often either.

kj · 04-17-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by inolen

Kj, would you clean out your pm's?

done

04-13-2008, 02:48 PM	#1
kj Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South of Boston, 781 Age: Bike: 01 f4i, 05 f4i Gender: Male Posts: 2,165	1000rr Fork seals SUCK Well I've heard all the rumors about the 1000rr fork seals blowing real easy... but thought they weren't true cause I have 2 sets of these and haven't had any problems..... until yesterday. Uh yea... they suck. I don't mousetrap very hard or very often and I do not strap my bike down tight at all. But yesterday, for no apparent reason... the right side seal decided to blow out and proceed to spray fluid ALL OVER MY BRAKE PADS AND ROTOR. Which did a great job of killing my braking power and swiftly putting an end to stoppie practice for the rest of the week. These were practically brand new forks as well... with not so much as a smudge or cunt hair on the tubes. Man I'm pissed... I love the forks w/ radial brakes and big rotors for stoppies, but if I'm gonna have to be taking my front end apart every other month for new seals I'm gonna be one unhappy, cranky ass old man bastard. Well... at least I can put some heavier weight fluid in em now.

04-13-2008, 02:59 PM	#2
sdfkillz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY/Bmore Age: Bike: 04 gsxr 750,03 r6, 06 ttr125, 01 f4i, 06 636, 05 600rr Gender: Male Posts: 1,962	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK ive seen the 600rr seals blow super easy, i thought the 1000rr were supposed to be better, i had one on my f4i and it held up great. then again i only weigh 150lbs.

04-13-2008, 03:09 PM	#3
nags the-nags.com Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S. Florida Age: 26 Bike: 2003 F4i / 2001 CBR929 / 2002 Honda CBR954 Gender: Male Posts: 49,260	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK I told you lol __________________ Advertise Here! http://www.the-nags.com/ http://www.stuntex.com http://www.moto-heaven.com

04-13-2008, 03:35 PM	#5
nags the-nags.com Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S. Florida Age: 26 Bike: 2003 F4i / 2001 CBR929 / 2002 Honda CBR954 Gender: Male Posts: 49,260	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK One of the guys down here has an F4i "stunt bike" and a mint CBR1000... He hasn't rode the RR in like 6 months so he took the front end off and put it on the F4i. He came out the other night for the first time on that setup. He rolled about 4 stoppies from about 12mph and as soon as he parked we saw the waterfall coming out of his forks lol __________________ Advertise Here! http://www.the-nags.com/ http://www.stuntex.com http://www.moto-heaven.com

04-13-2008, 03:48 PM	#6
lee majors Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: syracuse, ny, Age: Bike: f4i Gender: Male Posts: 795	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK hmmmm.... i hope the 600rr ones i got don't have the same problem. i've rebuilt forks and changed fork seals a lot and i think the key to keeping them from leaking or blowing is this: when your driving the seal on. hit it way harder and way more times then you have to. i'm convinced this spreads the seal out a little. i've never had any forks i do this way even leak a little.

04-13-2008, 05:25 PM	#7
eazenutz33 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KCMO Age: 25 Bike: '01 F4EZ Gender: Male Posts: 3,355	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK mousetrapping and weight dont normally blow seals out....its tiny specs of dirt and shit....get a set of Seal Savers and put em on your forks and you wont replace fork seals again!

04-13-2008, 08:18 PM	#8
SliverR6 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Age: 27 Bike: 01 F4i/ 05 636/ 01 GSXR600 /03 Xr50 Gender: Male Posts: 760	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK I had a problem with mine early last season but everything has been fine since I had them built back to oem specs.

04-13-2008, 09:49 PM	#11
Tubba Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WoodloNe,Ca,US Age: 19 Bike: 1994 Cbr600F2, 2004 400ex, 1996 Kx 125cc w/2000 Engine Gender: Male Posts: 44	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK Same here bro I gotta replace my seals on my bike......just part of stunting

04-13-2008, 10:08 PM	#12
punishmentcycle Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: hartford ct Age: 28 Bike: i'm supposed to have a bike??? Gender: Male Posts: 1,236	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK the 92954 aren't any better.......on my second set of seals in 6 months

04-14-2008, 01:04 AM	#15
Tanus Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AZ streets Age: Bike: xr72,f4 Gender: Male Posts: 2,084	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK from what Ive seen inverted fork seals blow way more often than conventional forks

04-14-2008, 01:12 AM	#16
nags the-nags.com Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S. Florida Age: 26 Bike: 2003 F4i / 2001 CBR929 / 2002 Honda CBR954 Gender: Male Posts: 49,260	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK And with conventional forks if they do blow you're not as likely to notice for a while. So thats a plus as well __________________ Advertise Here! http://www.the-nags.com/ http://www.stuntex.com http://www.moto-heaven.com

04-14-2008, 02:12 AM	#17
eazenutz33 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KCMO Age: 25 Bike: '01 F4EZ Gender: Male Posts: 3,355	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK I had a 1000RR front end, it had ohlins internals but stock seals and with seal savers it never had a problem....same with my current 954 forks....haven't changed seals in a LONG time...almost 2 years prolly. I played the same game with my old 600RR seals and I put seal savers on those forks and didnt have seals blow all the way thru until I sold the front end when I bought the 1000RR front end. Sounds like it wouldnt help, but it really does!

04-17-2008, 12:58 PM	#18
inolen Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Age: 20 Bike: 2001 f4i Gender: Male Posts: 2,372	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK Kj, would you clean out your pm's?

04-17-2008, 01:03 PM	#19
Mr. Farley Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: 5280 Age: 26 Bike: PERFECTLY LEGAL BIKES, UNLIKE 904 HOMOS! Gender: Male Posts: 6,196	Re: 1000rr Fork seals SUCK I've never blown out seals. Knock on wood But I try not to mousetrap often either.