cage vs. race railz - Stunt Discussion

12oclock929 · 03-25-2008, 01:04 AM

if I could I'd like to get a full cage that will allow me to drag knee in the twisties but I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen. not without beatin up my shins anyways. so my question is, how strong are the powers race railz? will they be able to handle the hit if I drop my bike from 12?

CarpeDiem · 03-25-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 12oclock929

will they be able to handle the hit if I drop my bike from 12?

nope.

A friend and I BOTH had a wrecked fairing stay, flywheel, stator, stator cover as a result from learning 12s last year as a result of race railz.

I had a '04 gixxer 600 and he had a '03 cbr rr 600

Both our speeds was about 20km/hour to 30km/hour.

Race railz seem to hold up like a champ on any lowsides though.

12oclock929 · 03-25-2008, 01:23 AM

hmm that blows. what's the word on FI cages? can't you remove the hoop and just have extended sliders? I guess that would solve my problem though I'm not too excited about FI's design. I'd rather have a stout cage like a powers but if the FI will work it may be my answer.

stuntsteel · 03-25-2008, 01:57 AM

billet covers n race rails

or

tygershark are pretty good 4 clearance

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Braunstein82 · 03-25-2008, 02:07 AM

i have a fi cage and the lower bar scrapes when i lean low on turns.

OnEWhEeLNEAL · 03-25-2008, 02:08 AM

http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/post...148-post3.html

kj · 03-25-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 12oclock929

hmm that blows. what's the word on FI cages? can't you remove the hoop and just have extended sliders? I guess that would solve my problem though I'm not too excited about FI's design. I'd rather have a stout cage like a powers but if the FI will work it may be my answer.

DO NOT BUY AN FI CAGE... unless you want to trash your bike and waste $$ for no apparent reason.

They have the least ground clearance and will roll you bike over onto the clipons every time you drop it.

If you take the hoop off and crash w/ just the sliders, they will violently rip your motor mount threads right out of the block..... Been there done that.

Get a sickinnovations cage and you can drag pegs b4 the cage hits the ground. Plus you can pancake it from 12 a million times and you won't break a thing.

** I hear tygershark makes a decent cage as well.... but never tried one. SI AND FI on the other hand... had both, and there's no comparison.

If you plan on any hard drops AND want lean angle, there's no question...... SI.

REVLIMIT · 03-25-2008, 02:40 AM

Damn that sucks...for a couple reasons I can't put a cage on my SRAD...so I wanted Racerails...but if my stator cover and everything is gonna crack and all that if I go down...might as well just buy sliders O_o

CarpeDiem · 03-25-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by REVLIMIT

Damn that sucks...for a couple reasons I can't put a cage on my SRAD...so I wanted Racerails...but if my stator cover and everything is gonna crack and all that if I go down...might as well just buy sliders O_o

I'm sure race railz are better then just sliders, but not as good as a full cage imo.

o0kawi_boi0o · 03-25-2008, 03:51 AM

race rails to me are for the og's in the game who been stunting for a while a rarely drop their bike but when they do it wont mess up as much if there was nothing there

Kliewer · 03-25-2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CarpeDiem

nope.

A friend and I BOTH had a wrecked fairing stay, flywheel, stator, stator cover as a result from learning 12s last year as a result of race railz.

I had a '04 gixxer 600 and he had a '03 cbr rr 600

Both our speeds was about 20km/hour to 30km/hour.

Race railz seem to hold up like a champ on any lowsides though.

I was there to witness both crashes and each one ended in a yardsale with parts flying every which way. If you ARE going to run race rails, I suggest you run some of the NRC engine covers as well. The only thing they do is help protect the fairings.

jamiedubs · 03-25-2008, 06:22 AM

I had a pair of race railz or canyon bars as some riders referr to them as on my 03 954 I wrecked doing 65 mph on a mtn back in april of 07 pretty shitty wreck I had racing 905 canyon bars on my bike and they saved everything around my engine my front fairing and my tail section needed to be replaced other than that the sides were not touched, nor were the handle bars.

Another time before the wreck I also let my bike idle at the wrong angle in my drive way which had a pretty good down grading slope to it. It weeble wabbled down and fell on the left side, after rolling a good 5 or 6 feet. Again nothing was touched.

In my opinion race railz, canyon bars, race bars, whatever you wanna call them they are another way for the cage desingers to spread their designs and products to all of the riders and not just stunt riders. It was a great idea and is worth the few dollars extra compared to having frame sliders that crack after a few months from being old if dropped in the drive way.

So if you wannana have something more for your bike but dont want the bulky cage cause your not pancaking your bike in the lotz all day. Canyon bars in my opinion is definatley the way to go:YEAH

sdfkillz · 03-25-2008, 09:55 AM

if you scrape the cage while riding twisties with a sick innovations cage well.....you had already crashed. someone actually had a picture up with them doing a track day with a SI cage somewhere here on stuntlife....

S.O.R Josh · 03-25-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 12oclock929

if I could I'd like to get a full cage that will allow me to drag knee in the twisties but I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen. not without beatin up my shins anyways. so my question is, how strong are the powers race railz? will they be able to handle the hit if I drop my bike from 12?

no they wont! ive had a few friends try them out. the results were broken motor mounts, and broken case covers. the motor mounts break because all of the force of the drop is unloaded directly on the mount. (this particular bike was an 07 zx6)

the only cage i will put on my bike is sick innovations. ive never seen a cage take so much abuse and not mess up the bike at all. I just pick my shit up and roll away. i doubt you will have clearance issues leaning in. like someone said before, if you touch the cage your already going down anyway (unless your a professional racer

).

Basically, "FUCK POWERS" all the way around. you will also have to wait 3 to 4 months and a battery of phone calls / emails to get your shit from them. and they truly don't give a fuck what you think about it either.

hope this helps

12oclock929 · 03-25-2008, 12:50 PM

I checked out the SI site and I think you've got me convinced. I love the low profile design. not bulky at all. my next question is can you run it full fairing on a 929? on their site they had one pic of a 929 and it wasn't full fairing.

REVLIMIT · 03-25-2008, 02:57 PM

I wish they made a cage like this for other bikes cause it's clean as hell.

No way your scratching that haha

OnEWhEeLNEAL · 03-25-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sdfkillz

if you scrape the cage while riding twisties with a sick innovations cage well.....you had already crashed. someone actually had a picture up with them doing a track day with a SI cage somewhere here on stuntlife....

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Originally Posted by OnEWhEeLNEAL

http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/post...148-post3.html

ny636 · 03-25-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 12oclock929

I checked out the SI site and I think you've got me convinced. I love the low profile design. not bulky at all. my next question is can you run it full fairing on a 929? on their site they had one pic of a 929 and it wasn't full fairing.

yes, you can. but you need to drill holes.

ecthemc · 03-25-2008, 03:47 PM

My buddy laid down his track bike on the street.. pretty good lay down..

Minimal cosmetic damage thanks to his powers railz.. ftw..

crazy636stunter · 03-25-2008, 03:48 PM

just listen to all the same people, who have all said the same thing, on the other 2 million threads on crash cages! GET A SI CAGE!!!!

03-25-2008, 01:04 AM	#1
12oclock929 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: manito, il Age: Bike: 929 Gender: Male Posts: 37	cage vs. race railz if I could I'd like to get a full cage that will allow me to drag knee in the twisties but I'm pretty sure that's not gonna happen. not without beatin up my shins anyways. so my question is, how strong are the powers race railz? will they be able to handle the hit if I drop my bike from 12?

03-25-2008, 01:23 AM	#3
12oclock929 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: manito, il Age: Bike: 929 Gender: Male Posts: 37	Re: cage vs. race railz hmm that blows. what's the word on FI cages? can't you remove the hoop and just have extended sliders? I guess that would solve my problem though I'm not too excited about FI's design. I'd rather have a stout cage like a powers but if the FI will work it may be my answer.

03-25-2008, 01:57 AM	#4
stuntsteel Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: StuntSteel.com - Philly, PA Age: Bike: f4i, 636, r6, r1 and raptor 660 Gender: Male Posts: 688	Re: cage vs. race railz billet covers n race rails or tygershark are pretty good 4 clearance __________________ www.stuntsteel.com

03-25-2008, 02:07 AM	#5
Braunstein82 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: springlake/cameron, NC Age: 26 Bike: 2002 gsxr 600 Gender: Male Posts: 70	Re: cage vs. race railz i have a fi cage and the lower bar scrapes when i lean low on turns.

03-25-2008, 02:08 AM	#6
OnEWhEeLNEAL Squid Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Queens, NY Age: 32 Bike: F4i Gender: Male Posts: 16,364	Re: cage vs. race railz http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/post...148-post3.html

03-25-2008, 02:40 AM	#8
REVLIMIT Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: On the Island of Oahu, HI Age: 25 Bike: 96 GSXR750 Gender: Male Posts: 458	Re: cage vs. race railz Damn that sucks...for a couple reasons I can't put a cage on my SRAD...so I wanted Racerails...but if my stator cover and everything is gonna crack and all that if I go down...might as well just buy sliders O_o

03-25-2008, 03:51 AM	#10
o0kawi_boi0o Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TeXaS Age: 22 Bike: 03 yami r6 97 kawi 750 02 crf 50 Gender: Male Posts: 250	Re: cage vs. race railz race rails to me are for the og's in the game who been stunting for a while a rarely drop their bike but when they do it wont mess up as much if there was nothing there

03-25-2008, 06:22 AM	#12
jamiedubs Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego Age: Bike: 08 GSXR 1000, 02 Raptor 660R Gender: Male Posts: 131	Re: cage vs. race railz I had a pair of race railz or canyon bars as some riders referr to them as on my 03 954 I wrecked doing 65 mph on a mtn back in april of 07 pretty shitty wreck I had racing 905 canyon bars on my bike and they saved everything around my engine my front fairing and my tail section needed to be replaced other than that the sides were not touched, nor were the handle bars. Another time before the wreck I also let my bike idle at the wrong angle in my drive way which had a pretty good down grading slope to it. It weeble wabbled down and fell on the left side, after rolling a good 5 or 6 feet. Again nothing was touched. In my opinion race railz, canyon bars, race bars, whatever you wanna call them they are another way for the cage desingers to spread their designs and products to all of the riders and not just stunt riders. It was a great idea and is worth the few dollars extra compared to having frame sliders that crack after a few months from being old if dropped in the drive way. So if you wannana have something more for your bike but dont want the bulky cage cause your not pancaking your bike in the lotz all day. Canyon bars in my opinion is definatley the way to go:YEAH

03-25-2008, 09:55 AM	#13
sdfkillz Go Kill Yourself Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY/Bmore Age: Bike: 04 gsxr 750,03 r6, 06 ttr125, 01 f4i, 06 636, 05 600rr Gender: Male Posts: 3,114	Re: cage vs. race railz if you scrape the cage while riding twisties with a sick innovations cage well.....you had already crashed. someone actually had a picture up with them doing a track day with a SI cage somewhere here on stuntlife....

03-25-2008, 12:50 PM	#15
12oclock929 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: manito, il Age: Bike: 929 Gender: Male Posts: 37	Re: cage vs. race railz I checked out the SI site and I think you've got me convinced. I love the low profile design. not bulky at all. my next question is can you run it full fairing on a 929? on their site they had one pic of a 929 and it wasn't full fairing.

03-25-2008, 02:57 PM	#16
REVLIMIT Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: On the Island of Oahu, HI Age: 25 Bike: 96 GSXR750 Gender: Male Posts: 458	Re: cage vs. race railz I wish they made a cage like this for other bikes cause it's clean as hell. No way your scratching that haha

03-25-2008, 03:47 PM	#19
ecthemc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, alaska usa Age: 23 Bike: a few rob durren unicorn kawasaki race bikes Gender: Male Posts: 1,001	Re: cage vs. race railz My buddy laid down his track bike on the street.. pretty good lay down.. Minimal cosmetic damage thanks to his powers railz.. ftw..

03-25-2008, 03:48 PM	#20
crazy636stunter Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: terre haute indiana usa Age: Bike: 01 f4easy,05 636, 04 r1, 07 600rr, 2 fiddys Gender: Male Posts: 945	Re: cage vs. race railz just listen to all the same people, who have all said the same thing, on the other 2 million threads on crash cages! GET A SI CAGE!!!!