F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. - Page 3

NINER · 03-13-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kj

This thought went through my mind too... until I felt how tight these bolts fit... + the red locktite.

The 6mm bolts are slightly too big for the 11/64 (shit i don't remember the exact size?) holes i drilled.

I'll be checking them daily just to be safe.

This would probably work.... if not too tall.

I just bribed the guys in the weld shop at work with donuts.

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stuntman29 · 03-13-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cashmoneyflo

doesnt look like i have room to do it on mine

i think your right

kj · 03-14-2008, 01:50 AM

Tried it out today w/ a stock ASV lever.... felt as easy if not easier then a moose or MSR on the easy hole.

I'm actually gonna mount up the easy pull lever tomorrow just for shits and giggles.

Unbelievable what a tiny little adjustment in the right place will do. :YEAH

old man roger · 03-14-2008, 01:54 AM

over kill if you ask me and you will probably have to pull it all the way to the bar to get it to release and if you adjust it so you don't have to pull it to the bar then you will probably have the cable too tight

lee majors · 03-14-2008, 08:08 AM

now i wanna see who's right. roger or kj?

NINER · 03-14-2008, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

over kill if you ask me and you will probably have to pull it all the way to the bar to get it to release and if you adjust it so you don't have to pull it to the bar then you will probably have the cable too tight

It's like pulling air. Middle setting on MSR=just a cunt hair easier to pull. That's the money setting with this mod.

Adzzz · 03-14-2008, 09:55 AM

Nice KJ!!!

thanks for sharing that man!

im gonna do that shit too as i cant weld!

old man roger · 03-14-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lee majors

now i wanna see who's right. roger or kj?

it's not really a matter of right and wrong, it will pull easier with both but the same feel can be had just by making the arm longer ...

what im saying is if you make the arm too long you will run out of adjustment and adding the ez pull can cause the same thing because both the mod and the ez pull decrease the amount of pressure needed to pull in the lever by increasing how far the lever needs to be pulled ...

so on an f4i with the arm just 10mm longer yes the easy pull would probably be fine as long as it isn't on the easiest setting but if you add 3/4 of an inch or more then the easy pull will need to be pulled all the way to the bar to get the clutch to release and the cable would probably need to be adjusted too tight and could cause your clutch to sleep in certain situations...

lee majors · 03-14-2008, 10:44 AM

so what your saying is its just not neccessary because ez-pull on top setting=ez-pull on middle setting + mod.

old man roger · 03-14-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lee majors

so what your saying is its just not neccessary because ez-pull on top setting=ez-pull on middle setting + mod.

well kind of yes but i would say it this way

1/2 inch mod + easy pull on middle setting =3/4 inch mod

3/4 inch mod + easy pull on middle setting = pulling lever to the bar and an over adjusted cable.....

lee majors · 03-14-2008, 10:53 AM

got it! i'll just stick with just the easy-pull on soft, works for me.

old man roger · 03-14-2008, 11:11 AM

that works it's just that the easy pulls all break way to easy and they tend to fray cables ,the mod will never break specially if you weld it....

OnEWhEeLNEAL · 03-14-2008, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by old man roger

it's not really a matter of right and wrong, it will pull easier with both but the same feel can be had just by making the arm longer ...

what im saying is if you make the arm too long you will run out of adjustment and adding the ez pull can cause the same thing because both the mod and the ez pull decrease the amount of pressure needed to pull in the lever by increasing how far the lever needs to be pulled ...

so on an f4i with the arm just 10mm longer yes the easy pull would probably be fine as long as it isn't on the easiest setting but if you add 3/4 of an inch or more then the easy pull will need to be pulled all the way to the bar to get the clutch to release and the cable would probably need to be adjusted too tight and could cause your clutch to sleep in certain situations...

I thought 10mm was too much on the F4i? Isnt it 8mm? Niner told me but I forgot. I gotta do this shit already and get rid of my msr.

old man roger · 03-14-2008, 12:22 PM

10mm is the max on an f4i when you weld it but the way it was done on thew first page of this thread you can get more .....

eazenutz33 · 03-14-2008, 12:29 PM

mines welded out 3/4" or so and I'm not sure what my MSR is adjusted at, but I haven't had any slip problems yet......I'll prolly look under there and see what setting its on. All I know is, the way it is right now...I dont see myself going without it its so perfect.

OnEWhEeLNEAL · 03-14-2008, 12:32 PM

Ok you might be right. 10mm is .394 inches so I think thats what it was. But eazenuts has 3/4" which I didnt think would fit. Thats 19mm.

eazenutz33 · 03-14-2008, 12:37 PM

it kinda doesnt fit.....when I pull my clutch cover off and put it back on I have to pry my clutch arm up or down and with a lil twist to get it to just barely scrape past the frame. Its prolly not the most recommended way to lengthen it, but since I only pull my clutch cover if theres a problem it doesn't bother me much....BUT I was annoyed with it when I had to pull the cover off a couple times in a week last year!

old man roger · 03-14-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eazenutz33

mines welded out 3/4" or so and I'm not sure what my MSR is adjusted at, but I haven't had any slip problems yet......I'll prolly look under there and see what setting its on. All I know is, the way it is right now...I dont see myself going without it its so perfect.

do you have to pull it all the way to the bar to get it to rleease?

and isn't there a setting on th emsr that is the same as stock ?

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Originally Posted by OnEWhEeLNEAL

Ok you might be right. 10mm is .394 inches so I think thats what it was. But eazenuts has 3/4" which I didnt think would fit. Thats 19mm.

kj raised his so he has more room

cashmoneyflo · 03-14-2008, 12:53 PM

do the ez pull levers cause it to fray by the lever?

OnEWhEeLNEAL · 03-14-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by eazenutz33

it kinda doesnt fit.....when I pull my clutch cover off and put it back on I have to pry my clutch arm up or down and with a lil twist to get it to just barely scrape past the frame. Its prolly not the most recommended way to lengthen it, but since I only pull my clutch cover if theres a problem it doesn't bother me much....BUT I was annoyed with it when I had to pull the cover off a couple times in a week last year!

Yeah that sounds like a pain in the ass.

03-14-2008, 01:50 AM	#43
kj Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South of Boston, 781 Bike: 05 f4i Gender: Male Posts: 2,278	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. Tried it out today w/ a stock ASV lever.... felt as easy if not easier then a moose or MSR on the easy hole. I'm actually gonna mount up the easy pull lever tomorrow just for shits and giggles. Unbelievable what a tiny little adjustment in the right place will do. :YEAH

03-14-2008, 01:54 AM	#44
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,194	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. over kill if you ask me and you will probably have to pull it all the way to the bar to get it to release and if you adjust it so you don't have to pull it to the bar then you will probably have the cable too tight

03-14-2008, 08:08 AM	#45
lee majors Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: syracuse, ny, Bike: f4i Gender: Male Posts: 1,652	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. now i wanna see who's right. roger or kj?

03-14-2008, 09:55 AM	#47
Adzzz Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK Age: 28 Bike: F4 izzle Gender: Male Posts: 750	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. Nice KJ!!! thanks for sharing that man! im gonna do that shit too as i cant weld!

03-14-2008, 10:44 AM	#49
lee majors Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: syracuse, ny, Bike: f4i Gender: Male Posts: 1,652	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. so what your saying is its just not neccessary because ez-pull on top setting=ez-pull on middle setting + mod.

03-14-2008, 10:53 AM	#51
lee majors Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: syracuse, ny, Bike: f4i Gender: Male Posts: 1,652	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. got it! i'll just stick with just the easy-pull on soft, works for me.

03-14-2008, 11:11 AM	#52
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,194	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. that works it's just that the easy pulls all break way to easy and they tend to fray cables ,the mod will never break specially if you weld it....

03-14-2008, 12:22 PM	#54
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,194	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. 10mm is the max on an f4i when you weld it but the way it was done on thew first page of this thread you can get more .....

03-14-2008, 12:29 PM	#55
eazenutz33 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ....... Age: 27 Bike: ............ Gender: Male Posts: 3,734	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. mines welded out 3/4" or so and I'm not sure what my MSR is adjusted at, but I haven't had any slip problems yet......I'll prolly look under there and see what setting its on. All I know is, the way it is right now...I dont see myself going without it its so perfect.

03-14-2008, 12:32 PM	#56
OnEWhEeLNEAL Honda Destroyer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: QUEENS, NY BITCHES Age: 33 Bike: One that pancakes Gender: Male Posts: 33,165	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. Ok you might be right. 10mm is .394 inches so I think thats what it was. But eazenuts has 3/4" which I didnt think would fit. Thats 19mm.

03-14-2008, 12:37 PM	#57
eazenutz33 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ....... Age: 27 Bike: ............ Gender: Male Posts: 3,734	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. it kinda doesnt fit.....when I pull my clutch cover off and put it back on I have to pry my clutch arm up or down and with a lil twist to get it to just barely scrape past the frame. Its prolly not the most recommended way to lengthen it, but since I only pull my clutch cover if theres a problem it doesn't bother me much....BUT I was annoyed with it when I had to pull the cover off a couple times in a week last year!

03-14-2008, 12:53 PM	#59
cashmoneyflo Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lancaster, PA Age: 24 Bike: 04 R6 Gender: Male Posts: 728	Re: F4i clutch arm mod... weld-less version. do the ez pull levers cause it to fray by the lever?