Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
#41
Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
well ...IMO ...Moose ****** sucks ....that stupid easy pull system is older than a 12 year old design (I tried using it on a KX500 I was racing in the mid 90's) It was junk back then ...and it is still junk.
For that reason ...i wouldn't buy any moose products unless they truly and easily surpassed all other brands.
For that reason ...i wouldn't buy any moose products unless they truly and easily surpassed all other brands.
The Moose lever itself is much nicer shaped than the MSR... easier on the fingers...
And BTW.... the 3rd hole on the MSR has the SAME PULL as the 2nd hole on the Moose.... if you read the package the MSR has an option for "harder pull than stock".
Cause it will hit the case cover... take a look at it.
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
Moose and MSR are almost completely identical... definetly manufactured by the same company cause the entire perch and hardware is absolutely IDENTICAL.
we are talking about the MOOSE CLUTCH LEVER... see above.
The Moose lever itself is much nicer shaped than the MSR... easier on the fingers...
And BTW.... the 3rd hole on the MSR has the SAME PULL as the 2nd hole on the Moose.... if you read the package the MSR has an option for "harder pull than stock".
Cause it will hit the case cover... take a look at it.
we are talking about the MOOSE CLUTCH LEVER... see above.
The Moose lever itself is much nicer shaped than the MSR... easier on the fingers...
And BTW.... the 3rd hole on the MSR has the SAME PULL as the 2nd hole on the Moose.... if you read the package the MSR has an option for "harder pull than stock".
Cause it will hit the case cover... take a look at it.
Last edited by Righteous 1; 01-22-2008 at 02:25 PM.
#43
Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
i'm not confused.... i was replying to the guy askin about the MOOSE LEVER.
#44
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I'm well aware what the thread was originally about.... but topic changed if you read every thread... .
I was replying to ExtremeAcres comment......
SOMEBODY's confused.....
I was replying to ExtremeAcres comment......
SOMEBODY's confused.....
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
If you were replying to Extremeacres comment, then you would have noticed the HE was talking about the SYSTEM, and the levers. No need to raise the font 100 times to try to make him feel stupid, when you're the one off topic.
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
Already did......my opinion stands. Dude posted up an opinion regaurding the thread, and you tried to make him feel like his opinion was off topic, when it was completely ON topic. Just because you changed the subject in a couple posts, doesn't mean the thread topic changed.
#48
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hehe...yeah , i was talking about the moose system sucking...and since i was pissed for having wasted money on IT...I wouldn't buy the moose lever , unless it was wayyyy better than anything else. And since it sounds like it's the same as MSR .... I'll stick with msr...
Also, about using an msr raptor lever in conjunction with the extended clutch arm .... I tried it and removed it ...the throw (and the area of clutch slippage was so wide ) that you had to let it snap out to have a sharp engagement. sorry , but i dont think that is the "hot setup" at all...(I agree with E-Loc540 as he stated earlier in this thread)
and I dont think hardly anyone is using that Setup (as towilee seems to think almost everyone is ???
Also, about using an msr raptor lever in conjunction with the extended clutch arm .... I tried it and removed it ...the throw (and the area of clutch slippage was so wide ) that you had to let it snap out to have a sharp engagement. sorry , but i dont think that is the "hot setup" at all...(I agree with E-Loc540 as he stated earlier in this thread)
and I dont think hardly anyone is using that Setup (as towilee seems to think almost everyone is ???
#49
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Since I'm off and bored as all hell today I will go ahead and argue w/ you
I didn't change the topic... somebody else did.
Here you go... know how to read? Go from top to bottom... go slow.
His opinion was "moose fukin sucks" and "i wouldn't buy any moose products" .... which was direct reply to the guy asking for feedback on the MOOSE LEVER.
So my BIG FONT that hurt your/his feelings was completely ON topic and pointing out the obvious fact that he either didn't READ the post above his or DIDN'T KNOW what was being talked about at the time.
READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU POST.
I didn't change the topic... somebody else did.
Here you go... know how to read? Go from top to bottom... go slow.
okay there is some confusion in this thread...there are three things being talked about:
1) MSR Pro Raptor EZ-Pull Lever
2) Moose EZ-Pull Lever
3) Moose EZ-Pull "System"
If you were to do a search (god forbid) on this topic, you'd find that EVERYONE HATES the Moose EZ-Pull "System". Which is the box with the stupid pulleys and **** thats got an awesome reputation for fraying cables and looping people mid wheelie.
Then you have the two LEVERS, both the Moose and MSR LEVERS use the same perch. There are only 2 differencesbetween them:
1) the MSR has 3 options for adjustment while the Moose only has two.
2) the MSR is a square-ish lever w/ a rubber "pad" for your finger while the moose is just a regular style clutch lever
Both share the same SHITTY adjuster that should be propmtly throwin in the fire as soon as you open the box...just use the stock adjuster. Some say the moose lever is slighly better quality...whatever they are pretty much the same damn thing. I have the MSR, its good.
Bottom line don't buy the Moose EZ Pull System...it blows big fat donkey **** and will cause you to loop.
1) MSR Pro Raptor EZ-Pull Lever
2) Moose EZ-Pull Lever
3) Moose EZ-Pull "System"
If you were to do a search (god forbid) on this topic, you'd find that EVERYONE HATES the Moose EZ-Pull "System". Which is the box with the stupid pulleys and **** thats got an awesome reputation for fraying cables and looping people mid wheelie.
Then you have the two LEVERS, both the Moose and MSR LEVERS use the same perch. There are only 2 differencesbetween them:
1) the MSR has 3 options for adjustment while the Moose only has two.
2) the MSR is a square-ish lever w/ a rubber "pad" for your finger while the moose is just a regular style clutch lever
Both share the same SHITTY adjuster that should be propmtly throwin in the fire as soon as you open the box...just use the stock adjuster. Some say the moose lever is slighly better quality...whatever they are pretty much the same damn thing. I have the MSR, its good.
Bottom line don't buy the Moose EZ Pull System...it blows big fat donkey **** and will cause you to loop.
Already did......my opinion stands. Dude posted up an opinion regaurding the thread, and you tried to make him feel like his opinion was off topic, when it was completely ON topic. Just because you changed the subject in a couple posts, doesn't mean the thread topic changed.
So my BIG FONT that hurt your/his feelings was completely ON topic and pointing out the obvious fact that he either didn't READ the post above his or DIDN'T KNOW what was being talked about at the time.
READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU POST.
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
He posted a comment about the thread, and you jumped his ****.......what don't you get about that? Who cares if you were having your solo conversation w/ someone else. He posted his opinion about the thread, and his opinion about the LEVER in the same post. It's called multi-tasking.....he replied to the thread starter and you in the same post.......WOW.......neat, huh. If you'ld like to continue to make yourself look stupid........lets hear it.
#51
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Oh ****... my bad. I really feel dumb... sorry.
https://www.stuntlife.com/forums/pos...51-post34.html
Look over this post very carefully and see if you can spot who he replied to... can you do that?
I didn't post until page 3.... so if he was replying to me too, I must REALLY be stupid today.
Man... thanks for pointing out my stupidity. GOOD JOB!
#52
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He posted a comment about the thread, and you jumped his ****.......what don't you get about that? Who cares if you were having your solo conversation w/ someone else. He posted his opinion about the thread, and his opinion about the LEVER in the same post. It's called multi-tasking.....he replied to the thread starter and you in the same post.......WOW.......neat, huh. If you'ld like to continue to make yourself look stupid........lets hear it.
I suggest you stop making YOURSELF look stupid and let this thread get back on topic....
I was trying to put correct, factual information into the thread till you got here tryin to defend your lil buddy that I "jumped".
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
He replied to your ******* "topic", and the thread "topic" in the same post. So now you're making a word game out of it. I see you have no reply to the real arguement at hand.........you jumped someones **** for posting their opinion, which was a good opinion at that. Now........you're welcome.
#54
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He replied to your ******* "topic", and the thread "topic" in the same post. So now you're making a word game out of it. I see you have no reply to the real arguement at hand.........you jumped someones **** for posting their opinion, which was a good opinion at that. Now........you're welcome.
Not a word game... it's just reading posts in order and paying attention to details.
Thank you btw, for giving me something to do to pass the time today.
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
My "lil buddy" was on topic, he was talking about the TOPIC. Stop trying to be an E-thug, and respect others opinions. If he came in here saying, "FI sucks, I don't like their cages.", then yeah, he's off topic. When someone comes into a thread talking about the main TOPIC at hand, and you jump their ****...............YOU'RE out of line. So, next time try to REMEMBER what the thread topic IS before you call someone out. It may be in your best interest to just mind your own business.........you're obviouslly easilly confused.
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
If you paid attention to details, you would have noticed that his reply was perfectly suited to this thread. Your reply to him was just stupid. Ha ha....I call it "your topic" because you defended it like it was your child. I have nothing better to do, either......
#57
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hehe...yeah , i was talking about the moose system sucking...and since i was pissed for having wasted money on IT...I wouldn't buy the moose lever , unless it was wayyyy better than anything else. And since it sounds like it's the same as MSR .... I'll stick with msr...
Also, about using an msr raptor lever in conjunction with the extended clutch arm .... I tried it and removed it ...the throw (and the area of clutch slippage was so wide ) that you had to let it snap out to have a sharp engagement. sorry , but i dont think that is the "hot setup" at all...(I agree with E-Loc540 as he stated earlier in this thread)
and I dont think hardly anyone is using that Setup (as towilee seems to think almost everyone is ???
Also, about using an msr raptor lever in conjunction with the extended clutch arm .... I tried it and removed it ...the throw (and the area of clutch slippage was so wide ) that you had to let it snap out to have a sharp engagement. sorry , but i dont think that is the "hot setup" at all...(I agree with E-Loc540 as he stated earlier in this thread)
and I dont think hardly anyone is using that Setup (as towilee seems to think almost everyone is ???
Only people i've seen stunt in person used that setup
On bikes like 636, you can weld your cultch arm way longer and run any lever..
But f4i, only 1/2" added, a msr is a perfect setup.. I only use half the pull available to my msr, no problems with coasters or my clutch slipping
But your right, maybe not a lot of people run it.. I run it, and I love it.. NO fatigue in my clutch hand, now I'm not held back by my left hand killing me :YEAH
#58
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When you quote someone, your essentially speaking directly to them....
ExtremeAcres DIRECTLY QUOTED the guy who was asking about the LEVER. His reply was about the SYSTEM.
AGAIN... read post #34.
His opinion "moose fukin sucks... i wouldn't buy any moose products".
Not good/accurate info for a guy askin for feedback about a lever identical to the other companies.
I see bullshit... i call it out... and use big fonts for people who have trouble reading.
Carry on...
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Re: Moose Easy pull system + msr clutch
So he's not allowed by the "KJ rules of posting" to reply to the thread starter and the question poster at the same time? Now you're saying he has trouble reading?!? You're a joke.