100 octane fuel - Page 3

stock05 · 12-02-2007, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by stuntman29

they more than likely make a variety of fuels...leaded - unleaded - oxygenated - high octane - etc.

but most of the stuff I've seen around here has been leaded.

usually high octane fuel contains lead

-mexican mayhem

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lazer_fin · 12-02-2007, 11:36 PM

we got mad scientist goin at it!

MikeOnTheBike · 12-03-2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stock05

fuck sea foam

, dont ever use that shit.

im with mike when it comes to gas out in cali our bikes run better on supreme, even though all that we know about octane says different

. i noticed it in every bike that i have owned.

-mexican mayhem

it could be that our gas is junk and weak as hell out here. our 91,92,93 whatever the hell it is in different areas is probably more like 87 and the 87 is like 81. the 100 octane unleaded 76 that you can get at the pump is real peppy though

stock05 · 12-03-2007, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeOnTheBike

it could be that our gas is junk and weak as hell out here. our 91,92,93 whatever the hell it is in different areas is probably more like 87 and the 87 is like 81. the 100 octane unleaded 76 that you can get at the pump is real peppy though

where the fuck do they sell that? they dont have it anywhere near vallejo besides sears point. btw im pretty sure cali is the only place that has 91 as our top octane, everywhere else has 93.

-mexican mayhem

Trachito · 12-03-2007, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by stock05

well put. the brand of gas will affect cleanliness in your system. chevron's "techron" is number one as far as detergents go, shell's v-power and 76's "pro-power" both are both tied for a close second. just a little fyi.

-mexican mayhem

sources? or is this from ur experience?

binder929rr · 12-03-2007, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Trachito

sources? or is this from ur experience?

look up top teir fuels....that will tell you all that info on detergents in gas. techron is the best.

binder929rr · 12-03-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by boostnm3

Ive noticed the exact opposite of what you noticed. With 87 my bike fell all over itself and needed a lot of clutch to come up, with 93 it came up easier with less clutch. I tried 87 for a month then 93 for a month. Dont think it was in my head, but who knows.

your bike was probably detonating on the 87 then....that would be the lack of power.

and as far as i know, for you guys running 87 in the f4i's.....honda recommends 90 R+M/2 octane for their bikes.

and the leaded thing on octane. leaded fuel has nothing to do with octane. those are 2 independent things in fuels. generally leaded octane will be higher for the mere reason that the only leaded fuels made anymore are for racing purposes so they make the fuel with a higher octane for high compression race motors. pointless to make a 93 octane leaded fuel when race cars can't run it.

and you CAN run leaded fuels in fuel injectors. quite a few drag racers use them here at the track. C12 is one of the most popular fuels at the track and it's a leaded fuel.

about AV gas.....AV gas is a different makeup than our fuel. Whoever has a boss running it in their bike will be replacing an engine soon. Depending on which gas it is: 100LL, 100, Jet A it won't run right. Jet A definately won't run in our engines. Jet A is similar to diesel. It has about half the octane of a gasoline fuel. We actually use Jet A in our diesel hummers. 100LL and 100 which are both commonly used for single engine prop planes have led in them and are 100 octane fuels. They might run for a while in a bike, but not without damage.

and yes, specific gravity makes a huge difference. We adjust air/fuel mixtures on all of our race bikes based on just the specific gravity of the fuel. It can make a huge difference (up to 3 jet sizes on a carbed bike).

stuntman29 · 12-03-2007, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by stock05

where the fuck do they sell that? they dont have it anywhere near vallejo besides sears point. btw im pretty sure cali is the only place that has 91 as our top octane, everywhere else has 93.

-mexican mayhem

upper midwest all you will see is 91....I know South Dakota, North Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, Wyoming usually have 91 as highest octane

MikeOnTheBike · 12-03-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stock05

where the fuck do they sell that? they dont have it anywhere near vallejo besides sears point. btw im pretty sure cali is the only place that has 91 as our top octane, everywhere else has 93.

-mexican mayhem

76 sells it right at the pump here in Sac, granted it's only at 1 location that I know of. Watt ave at Marconi is our spot. they should have it down in the bay somewhere! if not y'all need to complain to get it!!!

SlickRick83 · 12-03-2007, 09:24 PM

damn learn something new everyday.

[T-Roy] · 12-03-2007, 09:27 PM

fuck if i'm readin all that bs. can i get the cliff notes?

stock05 · 12-03-2007, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trachito

sources? or is this from ur experience?

sources

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Originally Posted by binder929rr

your bike was probably detonating on the 87 then....that would be the lack of power.

and as far as i know, for you guys running 87 in the f4i's.....honda recommends 90 R+M/2 octane for their bikes.

and the leaded thing on octane. leaded fuel has nothing to do with octane. those are 2 independent things in fuels. generally leaded octane will be higher for the mere reason that the only leaded fuels made anymore are for racing purposes so they make the fuel with a higher octane for high compression race motors. pointless to make a 93 octane leaded fuel when race cars can't run it.

and you CAN run leaded fuels in fuel injectors. quite a few drag racers use them here at the track. C12 is one of the most popular fuels at the track and it's a leaded fuel.

about AV gas.....AV gas is a different makeup than our fuel. Whoever has a boss running it in their bike will be replacing an engine soon. Depending on which gas it is: 100LL, 100, Jet A it won't run right. Jet A definately won't run in our engines. Jet A is similar to diesel. It has about half the octane of a gasoline fuel. We actually use Jet A in our diesel hummers. 100LL and 100 which are both commonly used for single engine prop planes have led in them and are 100 octane fuels. They might run for a while in a bike, but not without damage.

and yes, specific gravity makes a huge difference. We adjust air/fuel mixtures on all of our race bikes based on just the specific gravity of the fuel. It can make a huge difference (up to 3 jet sizes on a carbed bike).

i said usually never said anything about lead affecting octane and jet A very similar to kerosene.

-mexican mayhem

juzslidin · 12-03-2007, 10:16 PM

junior , dont waste your money on any '' race gas'' to clean out your bike . if your that concerned give me a call and ill come up and give u a hand with it . pull the t/b's off and u can look in with a flash light to see if there is alot of carbon built up . the bikes usualy run pretty clean so not much to worry about.

stock05 · 12-03-2007, 10:39 PM

an old school trick with carbed engines is to run water or tranny fluid through the carbs, i personally have never seen anything work better for cleaning the top end of a motor.

-mexican mayhem

blizanthimum · 12-03-2007, 11:06 PM

WOW! am i the only one that runs 89 octane chevrone gas?

juzslidin · 12-03-2007, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stock05

an old school trick with carbed engines is to run water or tranny fluid through the carbs, i personally have never seen anything work better for cleaning the top end of a motor.

-mexican mayhem

+1 a table spoon or so of water , or a couple squirts from a spray bottle go a long way . my dad told me about that when i was drag racing , and i still do it on my bikes and cars.

lazer_fin · 12-04-2007, 01:51 AM

I know alcohol cleans out your engine as well as your gas tank but as it cleans it shoves all that crap down into your fuel filter and also down into your engine and could cause engine damage. I haven't done it, thats just what Ive heard.

Johnnie Do · 12-04-2007, 05:33 AM

Over here in Holland the standard is 95 octane.
You can also get 98 at every station but you wont notice any difference other than in your wallet.

radoi4o · 12-04-2007, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnnie Do

Over here in Holland the standard is 95 octane.
You can also get 98 at every station but you wont notice any difference other than in your wallet.

..yeap...also and here in Bulgaria is like that ..iusual run with 95' but if you wont can get 98 and 100 in everi fuckin station around here...

binder929rr · 12-04-2007, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by radoi4o

..yeap...also and here in Bulgaria is like that ..iusual run with 95' but if you wont can get 98 and 100 in everi fuckin station around here...

that's pretty cool. u guys pay out the ying yang for your gas too though, don't you?

12-02-2007, 11:36 PM	#42
lazer_fin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburg, KS, USA Bike: 1992 CBR F2 Gender: Male Posts: 14	Re: 100 octane fuel we got mad scientist goin at it!

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12-03-2007, 10:16 PM	#53
juzslidin Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: north jersey Age: 27 Bike: 04 f4i Gender: Male Posts: 1,271	Re: 100 octane fuel junior , dont waste your money on any '' race gas'' to clean out your bike . if your that concerned give me a call and ill come up and give u a hand with it . pull the t/b's off and u can look in with a flash light to see if there is alot of carbon built up . the bikes usualy run pretty clean so not much to worry about.

12-03-2007, 10:39 PM	#54
stock05 What happened to my blox? Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: THE LEFT COAST Age: 26 Bike: 2008 VAVO VNM64T Gender: Male Posts: 13,392	Re: 100 octane fuel an old school trick with carbed engines is to run water or tranny fluid through the carbs, i personally have never seen anything work better for cleaning the top end of a motor. -mexican mayhem

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12-04-2007, 01:51 AM	#57
lazer_fin Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Pittsburg, KS, USA Bike: 1992 CBR F2 Gender: Male Posts: 14	Re: 100 octane fuel I know alcohol cleans out your engine as well as your gas tank but as it cleans it shoves all that crap down into your fuel filter and also down into your engine and could cause engine damage. I haven't done it, thats just what Ive heard.

12-04-2007, 05:33 AM	#58
Johnnie Do Team Johnnie Do Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Netherlands Age: 25 Bike: 06' RR Gender: Male Posts: 450	Re: 100 octane fuel Over here in Holland the standard is 95 octane. You can also get 98 at every station but you wont notice any difference other than in your wallet.