100 octane fuel - Page 2

LTHL6R · 12-02-2007, 02:35 AM

The sonoco 100 octane race fuel is Leaded. Idk if Id run that....

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steven-o · 12-02-2007, 02:38 AM

why would you do it anyway

MikeM · 12-02-2007, 02:41 AM

no .

imafrogg420 · 12-02-2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by boostnm3

ive honestly felt a difference running 93 in my f4i compared to 87. With 93 the bike had more pep

I didn't know they had 93 octane in the ocean....hmmmm

stuntman29 · 12-02-2007, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LTHL6R

The sonoco 100 octane race fuel is Leaded. Idk if Id run that....

good point on that...I forgot about the sunoco stuff is leaded... the main problem with leaded is the emmisions but if you have an older bike the leaded fuels actually help lube your top end....but I'm not sure how it would work in an injected bike....

sicvic187 · 12-02-2007, 01:08 PM

TEKTRON???? I put that in my F3 once... it cleaned pretty good. but the bike was carbed so i d k...

Schwartz · 12-02-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kerns BBO

Waste of money and actually performs worse in your engine. The higher octane will reduce the tendancy for your engine to knock but in return burns slower and cooler. You will get more power by running the lowest octane that your motor is designed to handle. Many sportbikes are rated for 87octane and you are only wasting money by using a higher grade.

+1

Also the Specific Gravity of the 100 oct fuel is a considerable amount different, changing the Air/Fuel mixture.

Danger_Dave · 12-02-2007, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Schwartz

+1

Also the Specific Gravity of the 100 oct fuel is a considerable amount different, changing the Air/Fuel mixture.

that is false

Herb · 12-02-2007, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LTHL6R

The sonoco 100 octane race fuel is Leaded. Idk if Id run that....

False. Most likely law in your state will not allow leaded gas to be sold at the pumps. You have to check with VP's color coding to see if the fuel has lead added to it. Most likely you wont see lead until after 108 octane. Not always the case though.

And stuntman 29: You cannot use leaded fuel in a fuel injected application. There are fine screens inside your injectors and it will clog them instantly. Same goes for bikes CA. models and modern, with O2 sensors. It will coat the sensor. The O2 sensor will compansate for the rich condition its is beliving exists and lean out the mixture resulting in a blown motor.

To check the color coding: www.vpracingfuels.com

gixxer18 · 12-02-2007, 04:13 PM

i work at an air port and my boss uses av gas in all his bikes zx14, R1, gsxr 600, datona tripple 675 and says it runs cleaner better

... and its about 2.50 a gal here.. where as super unleaded is 3.05. my other boss at the air port uses jet fuel in the diesel truck.. smells funny but good.. runs better too..

stuntman29 · 12-02-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Herb

And stuntman 29: You cannot use leaded fuel in a fuel injected application. There are fine screens inside your injectors and it will clog them instantly. Same goes for bikes CA. models and modern, with O2 sensors. It will coat the sensor. The O2 sensor will compansate for the rich condition its is beliving exists and lean out the mixture resulting in a blown motor.

thanks....like I said I dont know about the fuel injection systems....used to run it in my dirt bikes all the time though....

binder929rr · 12-02-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by boostnm3

ive honestly felt a difference running 93 in my f4i compared to 87. With 93 the bike had more pep

it's in your head. going a higher octane will actually decrease performence unless it's needed. and the performence decrease won't really be felt by a human. octane doesn't mean power. you match octane to keep the motor from knocking, once you get to a motor octane that doesn't cause detonation under load then that's all you need. anymore won't do anything else. adding things in the gas like oxygen is what gives race fuel the edge and more power.

we have a vp regional office here in terre haute and i have friends that work there. the VP national tech director, bruce, used to live here and race with some of the guys that worked at our local shop. i hear a lot about fuel all the time....

MikeOnTheBike · 12-02-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by boostnm3

ive honestly felt a difference running 93 in my f4i compared to 87. With 93 the bike had more pep

I notice a HUGE difference between 87 and 92 in both my F4I now and my old 900. I can't drift my F4I with 87 in it at all, but with the 92/93 it's rev limiter driftin!!! they sell the 100 octane here in cali right at the pump, runs good.!!!

atnuts · 12-02-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LTHL6R

The sonoco 100 octane race fuel is Leaded. Idk if Id run that....

nope, unleaded

Street Warrior · 12-02-2007, 08:50 PM

Just run some Seafoam through your tank if you want to clean stuff out.

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Originally Posted by boostnm3

ive honestly felt a difference running 93 in my f4i compared to 87. With 93 the bike had more pep

Pep? You're on crack muh boy! When I put 93 in my bike and used my usual small amount of throttle and clutch to creep out of 1st gear, it wanted to stumble and stall, so I had to give it a little more revs than usual. I couldn't notice a difference anywhere else, but after I went back to 87 it was creeping out of 1st with authority again.

atnuts · 12-02-2007, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Warrior

Just run some Seafoam through your tank if you want to clean stuff out. Pep? You're on crack muh boy! When I put 93 in my bike and used my usual small amount of throttle and clutch to creep out of 1st gear, it wanted to stumble and stall, so I had to give it a little more revs than usual. I couldn't notice a difference anywhere else, but after I went back to 87 it was creeping out of 1st with authority again.

would that be because yours is carbed and his is fuel injection?

and I've always been running 93(super) in my f4i. would running regular(87) be 'better'?

stock05 · 12-02-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Warrior

Just run some Seafoam through your tank if you want to clean stuff out.

fuck sea foam

, dont ever use that shit.

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Originally Posted by atnuts

would that be because yours is carbed and his is fuel injection?

and I've always been running 93(super) in my f4i. would running regular(87) be 'better'?

im with mike when it comes to gas out in cali our bikes run better on supreme, even though all that we know about octane says different

. i noticed it in every bike that i have owned.

-mexican mayhem

boostnm3 · 12-02-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Street Warrior

Just run some Seafoam through your tank if you want to clean stuff out. Pep? You're on crack muh boy! When I put 93 in my bike and used my usual small amount of throttle and clutch to creep out of 1st gear, it wanted to stumble and stall, so I had to give it a little more revs than usual. I couldn't notice a difference anywhere else, but after I went back to 87 it was creeping out of 1st with authority again.

Ive noticed the exact opposite of what you noticed. With 87 my bike fell all over itself and needed a lot of clutch to come up, with 93 it came up easier with less clutch. I tried 87 for a month then 93 for a month. Dont think it was in my head, but who knows.

gixxerboyz · 12-02-2007, 10:15 PM

who cares....high octane exhaust smells GOOD:YEAH

run it if you want

stuntman29 · 12-02-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by atnuts

nope, unleaded

they more than likely make a variety of fuels...leaded - unleaded - oxygenated - high octane - etc.

but most of the stuff I've seen around here has been leaded.

12-02-2007, 02:38 AM	#22
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sicvic187 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Medford, NY, 11763 Bike: R.I.P 900RR Gender: Male Posts: 373	Re: 100 octane fuel TEKTRON???? I put that in my F3 once... it cleaned pretty good. but the bike was carbed so i d k...

12-02-2007, 04:13 PM	#30
gixxer18 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Denver Bike: 2008 gsxr 600, pocket bike, 03 636 (for sale) Gender: Male Posts: 191	Re: 100 octane fuel i work at an air port and my boss uses av gas in all his bikes zx14, R1, gsxr 600, datona tripple 675 and says it runs cleaner better ... and its about 2.50 a gal here.. where as super unleaded is 3.05. my other boss at the air port uses jet fuel in the diesel truck.. smells funny but good.. runs better too..

12-02-2007, 10:15 PM	#39
gixxerboyz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: silvertown Bike: 02 GSXR 1000 Gender: Male Posts: 345	Re: 100 octane fuel who cares....high octane exhaust smells GOOD:YEAH run it if you want