how are other fiddys besides xrs?

[Lucas]

well im looking to buy a fiddy and i was noticing some other brands like KTM and husqvarna and i was wondering how those match up to the usual XR

[NINER]

Originally Posted by gixboy600

well im looking to buy a fiddy and i was noticing some other brands like KTM and husqvarna and i was wondering how those match up to the usual XR

They don't match up at all. Just go to your local honda dealer and buy a 50. You will never regret it.

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by NINER

They don't match up at all. Just go to your local honda dealer and buy a 50. You will never regret it.

i wish it was that simple, kindof strapped for cash so i wont be buying one anywhere but the want ads. cant afford to go new

[NINER]

Originally Posted by gixboy600

i wish it was that simple, kindof strapped for cash so i wont be buying one anywhere but the want ads. cant afford to go new

That is what I thought until I learned that you can get a 50 for no money down and the low low price of $97 a month for a year.

[crowdlg]

the ones you mentioned(ktm) are all 2 strokes and single speed.think 5hp minibike gas and go.and by the way id say a ktm mini pro 50 would cost way more than a stock xr50.even used.just get an xr.you can never go wrong with honda.parts ar not avil as easily for a ktm around here and not at all for a husky

[jonnyl]

Originally Posted by crowdlg

the ones you mentioned(ktm) are all 2 strokes and single speed.think 5hp minibike gas and go.and by the way id say a ktm mini pro 50 would cost way more than a stock xr50.even used.just get an xr.you can never go wrong with honda.parts ar not avil as easily for a ktm around here and not at all for a husky

Theres only one thing all motocrossers will agree on Hondas are the highest quality bikes.I hear that the extreme 107s have a great motor.Other than that the quality of the parts are very low.

[weedracer]

just be true to your self and buy a honda 50 any year you can't go wrong

[Lucas]

ok cool thanks guys, im going honda anyways with a 929 soon so mine as well keep it real with the 50. thats not bad (97 a mounth for a year with no money down) the only thing is i have no credit, just got a credit card a little while ago so i would probably have to have my mom cosign (which she probably wouldnt cause she already hates me having a car and a bike when i have to pay for college to). but thanks for the info, ill go to a dealer and check it out and see what the deal is. if not ill just save up and get one privately. thanks for the help, any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated

[Xidium]

Originally Posted by jonnyl

Theres only one thing all motocrossers will agree on Hondas are the highest quality bikes.I hear that the extreme 107s have a great motor.Other than that the quality of the parts are very low.

If your talking mx department, honda 2 strokes SUCK but their 4 stroke own. And if u compare a xr50 motor to a crf450 motor your so off. I know size, but ur 50 is made to be very mild and easy to ride for a 3 year old. CRF (racing, not the new 50,70,80,100,150,230 models) are strictly a race breed. If honda made a racing 50 it would easily have 5 horse. And if you think honda cr250 is good cause charmicheal ride one, u think anything on that bike beside frame is stock? Thats a 60,000$ were talking there. So basically, honda 2 stroke suck, their 4 stroke mx own, and their trail 4stroke suck. And 2 STROKE OWN :YEAH :YEAH :YEAH. Get a ktm 65. how can you go wrong with 17 horse out of the beast?

[Lucas]

any of you guys care to explain the diff. between 2 stroke and 4 stroke? i know its a basic guestion but i have never had it explaine to me what size 2 stroke "eguals" a 4?

[jonnyl]

Originally Posted by Xidium

If your talking mx department, honda 2 strokes SUCK but their 4 stroke own. And if u compare a xr50 motor to a crf450 motor your so off. I know size, but ur 50 is made to be very mild and easy to ride for a 3 year old. CRF (racing, not the new 50,70,80,100,150,230 models) are strictly a race breed. If honda made a racing 50 it would easily have 5 horse. And if you think honda cr250 is good cause charmicheal ride one, u think anything on that bike beside frame is stock? Thats a 60,000$ were talking there. So basically, honda 2 stroke suck, their 4 stroke mx own, and their trail 4stroke suck. And 2 STROKE OWN :YEAH :YEAH :YEAH. Get a ktm 65. how can you go wrong with 17 horse out of the beast?

I ride yamaha four strokes but if you think a cr250 sucks your just plain wrong.The 125 yes it needs motor work, but sucks? I wouldnt go that far.

[cstucker45]

2 strokes do not have a cam or valve train its like intake stroke & power stroke = 2 strokes. they also have oil mixed with their gas to lubricate the whole engine. 4 stroke has all them parts and 4 strokes called = intake,compression,power,exhaust. they have regular engine oil that can be changed same as car engines. which boils down to a 2 stroke having more peak power but only on the top end (high rpm), and 4 strokes having more broad torque curve (low rpm power). this makes a 4 stroke more user friendly when riding wheelies.

[FREE]

Originally Posted by cstucker45

2 strokes do not have a cam or valve train its like intake stroke & power stroke = 2 strokes. they also have oil mixed with their gas to lubricate the whole engine. 4 stroke has all them parts and 4 strokes called = intake,compression,power,exhaust. they have regular engine oil that can be changed same as car engines. which boils down to a 2 stroke having more peak power but only on the top end (high rpm), and 4 strokes having more broad torque curve (low rpm power). this makes a 4 stroke more user friendly when riding wheelies.

that is the best explanation of the difference between a 2 and 4 strock that I have ever heard! simple and understandable...... bravo well said, I finally understand. BTW just buy a 4 stroke honda crf50. check this out
http://www.sonicjay.com/video/ProSource-50mx.wmv

[NINER]

I doubt they would deny you financing on a 50 unless you had really bad credit. 1,100 isn't that much risk for them to finance. As for the 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke, the 2 stroke will make more power per cc of displacement, and are "snappier", but they are a lot more difficult to learn to wheelie on. They are also too loud and smokey to ever think about riding in a suburban neighborhood or parking lot with houses nearby.

[Taz]

If you have any more questions ... www.howstuffworks.com has a really good article about the two ..with animations...niner forgot to mention that the 2 strokes make more power the fourstrokes make more torque at lower engine speeds, and its torque that your using to pull up the front....

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by NINER

I doubt they would deny you financing on a 50 unless you had really bad credit. 1,100 isn't that much risk for them to finance. As for the 2 stroke vs. 4 stroke, the 2 stroke will make more power per cc of displacement, and are "snappier", but they are a lot more difficult to learn to wheelie on. They are also too loud and smokey to ever think about riding in a suburban neighborhood or parking lot with houses nearby.

but what if i havent had my credit card for a while. i dont even think i have credit (good or bad) cause i havent had my card that long. well ill try it out, i dont really know exactly how that credit stuff works

[Lucas]

oh yeah and whats the diff between the crf50 and the xr50

[jonnyl]

Originally Posted by Xidium

If your talking mx department, honda 2 strokes SUCK but their 4 stroke own. And if u compare a xr50 motor to a crf450 motor your so off. I know size, but ur 50 is made to be very mild and easy to ride for a 3 year old. CRF (racing, not the new 50,70,80,100,150,230 models) are strictly a race breed. If honda made a racing 50 it would easily have 5 horse. And if you think honda cr250 is good cause charmicheal ride one, u think anything on that bike beside frame is stock? Thats a 60,000$ were talking there. So basically, honda 2 stroke suck, their 4 stroke mx own, and their trail 4stroke suck. And 2 STROKE OWN :YEAH :YEAH :YEAH. Get a ktm 65. how can you go wrong with 17 horse out of the beast?

Compare a crf450 to a xr 50 LOL.Come on now who the hell would do that.Its like comparing a 75 honda civic to a formula 1 honda racer.I dont think Its good cuz carmichael rides one.I know there good because I have raced them and have friends that race them and love em.Have you ever raced MX?If so for how long?what skill level?

[jonnyl]

Originally Posted by gixboy600

oh yeah and whats the diff between the crf50 and the xr50

plastics and graphics

[jonnyl]

Originally Posted by gixboy600

but what if i havent had my credit card for a while. i dont even think i have credit (good or bad) cause i havent had my card that long. well ill try it out, i dont really know exactly how that credit stuff works

If you make like at least 12000 a year with zero credit most likley the will give you the 1200-1500 credit you want.Give them a call its free to see if you qualify