fiddy cutting out in the snow - FIDDY TECH: Help, How-to, Parts & Mods

sandmrider · 01-26-2004, 05:10 PM

Well we had about 2 inches of ice and snow a couple days ago and the

doesnt like it. Sometimes it runs ok, then sometimes it runs real shitty. It wont rev past like 1/4 throttle. It just bogs down and cuts out. I was thinking mabye its a short somewhere so i reached down to pull out the kill switch wires, thinking it would help, and i got a nice shock. After i turned off the bike and pulled em out it still runs bad. It seems like it runs better when i have the choke on. I was thinking its a clogged main jet, but it goes away after a while so i dunno. Anybody else had this problem?

SHERMAN · 01-26-2004, 05:26 PM

move to Texas.............toooooooooo DAM cold there, thats whats wrong..........lol

imprezawd · 01-26-2004, 07:36 PM

mine did the same and i did the same thign ahahha

but mine runs good after i adjust3ed the needle. i thikn i was running to rich maybe i dont know. I should run more lean when the air is cold

???

*shugga* · 01-26-2004, 07:47 PM

Take a look at your spark plug cap... is it broken or cracked?

potential · 01-26-2004, 08:51 PM

fiddy's don't like the cold... that's all there is to it. it'll act up untill it's properly warmed up, and having the choke on will lean it out and make it run hotter, warming the bike up quicker but too much might make it stall in the cold b/c the air is already so dense. you just have to be paitent and let it warm up before trying to tear it up on one wheel. don't worry my piece wouldn't even start in this cold ass weather (~15F here). oh and imprezawd is wrong, you want to tune the bike to run slightly more rich in the cold, b/c cold air is more dense, naturally making the bike run leaner...
B

Crispy · 01-26-2004, 09:04 PM

i have the same problem and its bcuz the spark plug cap is cracked and water gets on the spark plug and shorts it out

sandmrider · 01-27-2004, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potential

fiddy's don't like the cold... that's all there is to it. it'll act up untill it's properly warmed up, and having the choke on will lean it out and make it run hotter, warming the bike up quicker but too much might make it stall in the cold b/c the air is already so dense. you just have to be paitent and let it warm up before trying to tear it up on one wheel. don't worry my piece wouldn't even start in this cold ass weather (~15F here). oh and imprezawd is wrong, you want to tune the bike to run slightly more rich in the cold, b/c cold air is more dense, naturally making the bike run leaner...
B

Doesnt the choke make it richer because it cuts off air to the engine? Anyways i dont think thats the problem because it's already warmed up when it starts acting shitty. I put a fuel filter on it last night just incase the main jet was getting clogged, but i havent actually taken it apart to clean the carb yet. Ill go check the spark plug cap and see if its broken. Thanks for the help

02redr1 · 01-27-2004, 03:23 PM

do you guys have aftermarket filters???? in the snow they'll get really wet and you may be sucking up enough water to make it cut out and sputter???

Silver Surfer · 01-27-2004, 04:07 PM

Going up one size on the main jet without any other carb modifications cures the problem 95% of the time.

sandmrider · 01-27-2004, 04:48 PM

Ive got the stock filter and my friends

works fine, so i dont think its the jet, but i dunno. I still gotta check that plug cap...

birddogg · 01-31-2004, 03:03 PM

XR70 plug caps are made of rubber. Just throwing that out there.. Got tired of busting stockers every ride.

Xidium · 01-31-2004, 03:40 PM

Clean ur air filter, change the plug (get one number lower on a ngk plug) and check the cap, try riding with choke on (try both levels), try new gas, clean the carb, warm the bike up good. If it bogs stop and put it in neatrual and rev it up for a couple of seconds, that always help cure bogging problems for me.

sandmrider · 02-07-2004, 08:27 PM

Well guys i checked the spark plug cap again today and when i pulled off the rubber part on the end, the plastic piece was nice and broke. Anybody know where to get a new one? You say an xr70 one works? Right now its just duct taped together... Thanks for your help

F T P · 02-08-2004, 12:59 AM

I had the same problem and it was the spark plug cap once i changed it it ran like a champ cheap fix 2 only like three bucks worth a try good luck

Kawkidd · 05-04-2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by potential

fiddy's don't like the cold... that's all there is to it. it'll act up untill it's properly warmed up, and having the choke on will lean it out and make it run hotter, warming the bike up quicker but too much might make it stall in the cold b/c the air is already so dense. you just have to be paitent and let it warm up before trying to tear it up on one wheel. don't worry my piece wouldn't even start in this cold ass weather (~15F here). oh and imprezawd is wrong, you want to tune the bike to run slightly more rich in the cold, b/c cold air is more dense, naturally making the bike run leaner...
B

I'm not sure about you but where I'm from the choke causes an overrich condition, thus combating the natural cold/lean problem you discussed earlier in your post.

rcracer#15 · 05-09-2004, 05:29 PM

you have to adjust the mixture when you change weather drastically or change altitudes

01-26-2004, 05:26 PM	#2
SHERMAN Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Plano, TX Age: 38 Bike: 2004 Kawasaki ZX-10r ;2004 CRF Fiddy; Custom built dirt 88cc pitbike Gender: Male Posts: 318	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow move to Texas.............toooooooooo DAM cold there, thats whats wrong..........lol __________________ "Do What You Love, Love What You Do", O'Neal Surf Co. www.twistedminiz.com

01-26-2004, 07:36 PM	#3
imprezawd Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Gainesville, VA Age: 28 Bike: 05 Suzuki DRZ 400SM! 04 fiddy (88cc) Gender: Male Posts: 238	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow mine did the same and i did the same thign ahahha but mine runs good after i adjust3ed the needle. i thikn i was running to rich maybe i dont know. I should run more lean when the air is cold ??? __________________ 03 Honda XR fiddy 01 YZF R-6 CLE # 756 99 Subaru impreza 2.5rs-N20

01-26-2004, 07:47 PM	#4
shugga Make Wheelies Not War Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX Age: 32 Bike: Some fiddys & GMC Typhoon Gender: Male Posts: 8,483	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow Take a look at your spark plug cap... is it broken or cracked? __________________ StuntLife... Its a way of life!

01-26-2004, 08:51 PM	#5
potential I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: nova/dc Age: 26 Bike: CBRF4i(rip)/CRF50/DKbmx Gender: Male Posts: 1,067	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow fiddy's don't like the cold... that's all there is to it. it'll act up untill it's properly warmed up, and having the choke on will lean it out and make it run hotter, warming the bike up quicker but too much might make it stall in the cold b/c the air is already so dense. you just have to be paitent and let it warm up before trying to tear it up on one wheel. don't worry my piece wouldn't even start in this cold ass weather (~15F here). oh and imprezawd is wrong, you want to tune the bike to run slightly more rich in the cold, b/c cold air is more dense, naturally making the bike run leaner... B Last edited by potential : 01-26-2004 at 08:55 PM.

01-26-2004, 09:04 PM	#6
Crispy Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: plymouth ma Age: 22 Bike: CRF250 XR50 Gender: Male Posts: 166	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow i have the same problem and its bcuz the spark plug cap is cracked and water gets on the spark plug and shorts it out __________________ I RIDE TO LIVE AND LIVE TO RIDE!

01-26-2004, 05:10 PM	#1
sandmrider Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: st. louis Age: 21 Bike: srad 600, xr50 Gender: Male Posts: 319	fiddy cutting out in the snow Well we had about 2 inches of ice and snow a couple days ago and the doesnt like it. Sometimes it runs ok, then sometimes it runs real shitty. It wont rev past like 1/4 throttle. It just bogs down and cuts out. I was thinking mabye its a short somewhere so i reached down to pull out the kill switch wires, thinking it would help, and i got a nice shock. After i turned off the bike and pulled em out it still runs bad. It seems like it runs better when i have the choke on. I was thinking its a clogged main jet, but it goes away after a while so i dunno. Anybody else had this problem?

01-27-2004, 03:23 PM	#8
02redr1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: OKC, OK Age: 26 Bike: too many, not enough... Gender: Male Posts: 1,356	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow do you guys have aftermarket filters???? in the snow they'll get really wet and you may be sucking up enough water to make it cut out and sputter??? __________________ [img]http://www.speed-tribe.com/viewImage.asp?id=2631[/img] [URL=www.speed-tribe.com]Speed Tribe OKC Sportbike Club[/url] [url=r1-forum.com] R1-Forum [/url] 2002 YZF-R1: Red, Rear Seat Cowl, Toby Steering Damper, Akrapovic Slip-On, Fender Eliminator, Rear Spools, Pit Bull Stand, polished heel guards, zero gravity lt. smoke db, polished bar ends, ebc hh fr.pads, gregg's flushies.....more to come!!!!

01-27-2004, 04:07 PM	#9
Silver Surfer I Enjoy Posting At StuntLife! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Chicago, Illinois Age: 31 Bike: Z50R & TRX90 Gender: Male Posts: 1,333	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow Going up one size on the main jet without any other carb modifications cures the problem 95% of the time. __________________ "Its Tough Being a STUNTLIFE Superhero" www.chicagoriders.com

01-27-2004, 04:48 PM	#10
sandmrider Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: st. louis Age: 21 Bike: srad 600, xr50 Gender: Male Posts: 319	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow Ive got the stock filter and my friends works fine, so i dont think its the jet, but i dunno. I still gotta check that plug cap...

01-31-2004, 03:03 PM	#11
birddogg Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Central PA Age: 35 Bike: XR50,83 ATC70 Both tricked out Gender: Posts: 137	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow XR70 plug caps are made of rubber. Just throwing that out there.. Got tired of busting stockers every ride. __________________ 2000 XR50 With Fast50s Throttle, XR70 forks & carb, Kitaco inner rotor kit & oil pump, Hogged out head, Big seat, Sano peg mounts, Stainless pegs, Paioli shock, Hanebrink swingarm, Billetware frame(soon) BBR skidplate, Custom exhaust, and new Michelins. www.dirtsoldiers.com

01-31-2004, 03:40 PM	#12
Xidium Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: kewaunne wi Age: Bike: 2002 kx125 97' z50 03' xr100 76 xr75 Gender: Male Posts: 1,722	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow Clean ur air filter, change the plug (get one number lower on a ngk plug) and check the cap, try riding with choke on (try both levels), try new gas, clean the carb, warm the bike up good. If it bogs stop and put it in neatrual and rev it up for a couple of seconds, that always help cure bogging problems for me. __________________ [img]http://www.danasoft.com/vipersig.jpg[/img]

02-07-2004, 08:27 PM	#13
sandmrider Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: st. louis Age: 21 Bike: srad 600, xr50 Gender: Male Posts: 319	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow Well guys i checked the spark plug cap again today and when i pulled off the rubber part on the end, the plastic piece was nice and broke. Anybody know where to get a new one? You say an xr70 one works? Right now its just duct taped together... Thanks for your help

02-08-2004, 12:59 AM	#14
F T P Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aint no place like the Chi Age: 26 Bike: A GANGSTA ASS ZX6R 04 50 Gender: Male Posts: 99	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow I had the same problem and it was the spark plug cap once i changed it it ran like a champ cheap fix 2 only like three bucks worth a try good luck __________________ "U SHOUDNT THROW STONES IF U LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE AND IF U GOT A GLASS JAW U SHOULD WATCH YOUR MOUTH" "IM SIMILAR 2 A SQUIRL LOOKIN 4 A SLUT WITH A NICE BUTT TO GET A NUT"

05-09-2004, 05:29 PM	#16
rcracer#15 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: lakeside california Age: 20 Bike: xr50 Gender: Male Posts: 97	Re: fiddy cutting out in the snow you have to adjust the mixture when you change weather drastically or change altitudes

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