Sub cages worth it?

ProjectFallen · 10-28-2009, 10:23 AM

Are these full sub cages from dealers like (OMR, Powers, SI, ect..) really worth the money? Iv been usen my stock pegs for stand ups, and they havent failed or bothered me yet with any thing. But now that im taken the bike from a street stunt bike to an all out stunt only bike, was woundering if i should up grade to the full sub cageor not

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stick1300 · 10-28-2009, 11:18 AM

My bike was a track only bike in its previous life, so when I bought it it didn't have any rear pegs, so I went ahead and bought an OMR subcage with ESD pegs (the most

setup you can get) and I love it. The peg positioning is perfect and the bigger pegs give me a ton of grip. That being said, a subcage isn't really required, more like a bonus part. I know there are guys that kill it on stock rear pegs/brackets (I think Number Two uses stock and he's a fucking spider monkey on the bike). I guess what I'm saying is you don't HAVE to have a subcage, but I wouldn't ever go back to stock after getting one.

Also, go with OMR

old man roger · 10-28-2009, 09:04 PM

there are alot of reasons to have a subcage but here are just a few ...

1- they dont flex like the stock peg brackets so the peg doesnt point down when you have your weight on it , it stays in the correct position for better footing in the wet and in the dry weather ..[push down on your rear peg with your finger and you will see what i mean then imagine all your weight on it]

2- stock peg brackets break or bend very easy when they hit the ground , a subcage has a support conecting the two sides together and is made of steel so it's much stronger ..

3- a subcage also keeps the tabs on your subframe from bending or braking because of the cross bar , the stock peg brackets often cause the tabs on the subframe to bend in putting your peg in a downward position which makes it very easy to slide off of ..

4- a subcage also helps stiffen the subframe from side to side because the cross bar ties the two sides of the subframe together , it wont help in a gorrilla scrape or any thing like that but it definetly helps keep the subframe from tweaking to one side or the other in a crash ..

old man roger · 10-28-2009, 09:11 PM

this is a very common looking stock rear peg bracket after a few crashes , it's an f4i and they are one of the strongest stock rear peg brackets out there ..

here is another common problem with stock peg brackets ..hopefully if this happens to any one it happens all at once , some times the stock rear peg brackets just crack when you crash and you dont notice it till you jump to it in a combo and then you eat it cause your peg falls off while you are riding down the road ...

slidewayz89 · 10-28-2009, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectFallen

Are these full sub cages from dealers like (OMR, Powers, SI, ect..) really worth the money? Iv been usen my stock pegs for stand ups, and they havent failed or bothered me yet with any thing. But now that im taken the bike from a street stunt bike to an all out stunt only bike, was woundering if i should up grade to the full sub cageor not

?

Go with one for sure well worth i would say go with an A-TOWN CUSTOMS subcage i have one for my 05-06 636 and i love it also Go with a OMR i also have one of those but it is not for sale it is my insurance....

WheelzUp · 10-28-2009, 10:22 PM

OMR how did you get the pics of my rear footpegs

thats what they looked like on my old bike lol.....how much for an 08rr subcage

old man roger · 10-28-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WheelzUp

OMR how did you get the pics of my rear footpegs

thats what they looked like on my old bike lol.....how much for an 08rr subcage

alot of them look like that

$175 shipped

http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/464-...ew-models.html (OMR SUBCAGES !!!!! new models available)

SUPERDAVE · 10-30-2009, 05:43 PM

LOVE ME A SUBCAGE, SPECIALY WITH SIZE 13 FEET

Towlieee · 10-30-2009, 05:52 PM

if your just rock a stand up here and there on the street, not much use in a subcage. Sure it'll strengthen your bike up and make it solid, but the money could be spent elsewhere or saved

for any type of 'stunting' IMO they are worth it. Once you start doing more technical tricks the pegs will fold up, and you will brake peg brackets

old man roger · 10-30-2009, 05:59 PM

i think even straight staggered wheelies can benefit from the use of a subcage..

stock peg brackets flex alot and make the peg aim down and thats not the best feeling at 80 or 90 miles an hour especially if your feet happen to be wet..

another problem alot of people have is the angle of the stock peg mount because it makes it easy for the peg to fold up while you are standing on it , all omr subcages have the peg mount rotated forward on it's axis so the peg doesnt fold up when you are standing on it and as a bonus this puts your foot on the grippy part of the peg ..

Righteous 1 · 10-30-2009, 06:14 PM

I run OMRs on both my bikes. Wouldn't ride w/ out 'em. Ever since I snapped a peg bolt on my R1, I have run grade 8 hardware and subcages. Snapping a peg bracket or a bolt while in a whoolie is NO joke. I was lucky. Get a subcage. OMR, preferably!

Joker · 10-30-2009, 06:37 PM

I weigh 230 lbs... won't ride without one. One less thing to worry about.

StrictlyStunt · 10-30-2009, 06:42 PM

OMR for the win!!!!

MoHawk · 10-30-2009, 07:26 PM

Just not POWERS.....

chipottley · 10-31-2009, 09:10 AM

OMR FTW. I REPEAT, OMR FTW!

This shouldn't even be up for discussion. not only will his sub cages do everything he says, but they will also help to protect your plastics in a drop/fall (I run full fairings)

OMR makes THE BEST cages, PERIOD, and has THE CHEAPEST PRICES......HANDS DOWN! NO bullshit! I've had other cages, so I speak from experience. and not only does he have the best cages at the cheapest prices, he's also got THE BEST SERVICE AND SUPPORT, PERIOD!

Bottom Line: OMR is the Shit and So are his cages! and if you order now, he'll also give you a free reach around!!

For real though, all joking aside, if you buy anything other than an OMR subcage, you're slippin! My 2c

Let's not forget about PERFECT fitment (OMR's have it, others don't) and .........."it's the ORIGINL folding subcage"!

See: (and notice my bent peg in this fist pic? notice NO DAMAGE to my plastics ($1,800.00 paint job), NO DAMAGE to my cage, or NO DAMAGE to my subframe!

Now, if I could just talk him into makin' rails (that won't murder my frame) we'll be in there! whadda ya say Rog?

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stick1300 · 10-31-2009, 01:51 PM

OMR all the way! If I ever pick up another bike to be my non stunter, it WILL have an OMR subcage on it. They just look plain

aut117 · 10-31-2009, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stick1300

OMR all the way! If I ever pick up another bike to be my non stunter, it WILL have an OMR subcage on it. They just look plain

i think it would be cool if he sold them in diff. colors

aut117 · 10-31-2009, 02:56 PM

[quote=chipottley;4181395]OMR FTW. I REPEAT, OMR FTW!

This shouldn't even be up for discussion. not only will his sub cages do everything he says, but they will also help to protect your plastics in a drop/fall (I run full fairings)

OMR makes THE BEST cages, PERIOD, and has THE CHEAPEST PRICES......HANDS DOWN! NO bullshit! I've had other cages, so I speak from experience. and not only does he have the best cages at the cheapest prices, he's also got THE BEST SERVICE AND SUPPORT, PERIOD!

Bottom Line: OMR is the Shit and So are his cages! and if you order now, he'll also give you a free reach around!!

For real though, all joking aside, if you buy anything other than an OMR subcage, you're slippin! My 2c

Let's not forget about PERFECT fitment (OMR's have it, others don't) and .........."it's the ORIGINL folding subcage"!

See: (and notice my bent peg in this fist pic? notice NO DAMAGE to my plastics ($1,800.00 paint job), NO DAMAGE to my cage, or NO DAMAGE to my subframe!

Now, if I could just talk him into makin' rails (that won't murder my frame) we'll be in there! whadda ya say Rog?

ProjectFallen · 10-31-2009, 03:23 PM

thanks for all the feedback on this!

Deffenetily went with the majority vote on this one and just baught a brand new omr sub cage

never 2 old · 10-31-2009, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectFallen

thanks for all the feedback on this!

Deffenetily went with the majority vote on this one and just baught a brand new omr sub cage

OMR

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10-28-2009, 11:18 AM	#2
stick1300 Squid Supreme Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Age: 20 Bike: 01 F4i, 05 CRF 50 Gender: Male Posts: 1,605	Re: Sub cages worth it? My bike was a track only bike in its previous life, so when I bought it it didn't have any rear pegs, so I went ahead and bought an OMR subcage with ESD pegs (the most setup you can get) and I love it. The peg positioning is perfect and the bigger pegs give me a ton of grip. That being said, a subcage isn't really required, more like a bonus part. I know there are guys that kill it on stock rear pegs/brackets (I think Number Two uses stock and he's a fucking spider monkey on the bike). I guess what I'm saying is you don't HAVE to have a subcage, but I wouldn't ever go back to stock after getting one. Also, go with OMR Last edited by stick1300; 10-28-2009 at 11:23 AM.

10-28-2009, 09:04 PM	#3
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,210	Re: Sub cages worth it? there are alot of reasons to have a subcage but here are just a few ... 1- they dont flex like the stock peg brackets so the peg doesnt point down when you have your weight on it , it stays in the correct position for better footing in the wet and in the dry weather ..[push down on your rear peg with your finger and you will see what i mean then imagine all your weight on it] 2- stock peg brackets break or bend very easy when they hit the ground , a subcage has a support conecting the two sides together and is made of steel so it's much stronger .. 3- a subcage also keeps the tabs on your subframe from bending or braking because of the cross bar , the stock peg brackets often cause the tabs on the subframe to bend in putting your peg in a downward position which makes it very easy to slide off of .. 4- a subcage also helps stiffen the subframe from side to side because the cross bar ties the two sides of the subframe together , it wont help in a gorrilla scrape or any thing like that but it definetly helps keep the subframe from tweaking to one side or the other in a crash .. __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE RIGHTEOUSSTUNTMETAL,COM STRICTLYSTUNT.COM

10-28-2009, 09:11 PM	#4
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,210	Re: Sub cages worth it? this is a very common looking stock rear peg bracket after a few crashes , it's an f4i and they are one of the strongest stock rear peg brackets out there .. here is another common problem with stock peg brackets ..hopefully if this happens to any one it happens all at once , some times the stock rear peg brackets just crack when you crash and you dont notice it till you jump to it in a combo and then you eat it cause your peg falls off while you are riding down the road ... __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE RIGHTEOUSSTUNTMETAL,COM STRICTLYSTUNT.COM

10-28-2009, 10:22 PM	#6
WheelzUp Honda > Yamaha Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: So. IL, USA Age: 23 Bike: 08 600rr/Soon stunted unless someone makes me a good trade offer!!!! and 05 CRF450R Gender: Male Posts: 677	Re: Sub cages worth it? OMR how did you get the pics of my rear footpegs thats what they looked like on my old bike lol.....how much for an 08rr subcage __________________ SQUID WHEELIES!!!!

10-30-2009, 05:43 PM	#8
SUPERDAVE HOOD CHAIN GANG Join Date: May 2008 Location: GAITHERSBURG, MD, USA Bike: 03 R6, 04 R6, 04 CRF450, CRF 50, YZ250,KLX110 Gender: Male Posts: 674	Re: Sub cages worth it? LOVE ME A SUBCAGE, SPECIALY WITH SIZE 13 FEET __________________ BMORE STREETS!!

10-30-2009, 05:52 PM	#9
Towlieee Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Anywhere wheelies happen Age: 23 Bike: 02F4i 05Fiddy 05Crf150 Gender: Male Posts: 5,436	Re: Sub cages worth it? if your just rock a stand up here and there on the street, not much use in a subcage. Sure it'll strengthen your bike up and make it solid, but the money could be spent elsewhere or saved for any type of 'stunting' IMO they are worth it. Once you start doing more technical tricks the pegs will fold up, and you will brake peg brackets

10-30-2009, 05:59 PM	#10
old man roger also known as OMR Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OMR INDUSTRIES in west palm beach florida Bike: OMR PREPPED 636 Gender: Male Posts: 74,210	Re: Sub cages worth it? i think even straight staggered wheelies can benefit from the use of a subcage.. stock peg brackets flex alot and make the peg aim down and thats not the best feeling at 80 or 90 miles an hour especially if your feet happen to be wet.. another problem alot of people have is the angle of the stock peg mount because it makes it easy for the peg to fold up while you are standing on it , all omr subcages have the peg mount rotated forward on it's axis so the peg doesnt fold up when you are standing on it and as a bonus this puts your foot on the grippy part of the peg .. __________________ OMR SUBCAGES !!!!!!!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE RIGHTEOUSSTUNTMETAL,COM STRICTLYSTUNT.COM Last edited by old man roger; 10-30-2009 at 06:08 PM.

10-30-2009, 06:14 PM	#11
Righteous 1 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Where the grapes and ganja be growin! Age: 63 Bike: '73 Honda Trail 90......fully stunted pimp machine! Gender: Male Posts: 5,728	Re: Sub cages worth it? I run OMRs on both my bikes. Wouldn't ride w/ out 'em. Ever since I snapped a peg bolt on my R1, I have run grade 8 hardware and subcages. Snapping a peg bracket or a bolt while in a whoolie is NO joke. I was lucky. Get a subcage. OMR, preferably! __________________ Live easy, ride hard!......Do YOU have a Righteous Stunt Clutch, yet? Ultimate model available NOW!! www.RighteousStuntMetal.com OMR SUBCAGES!!! THE ORIGINAL FOLDING PEG SUBCAGE!!

10-30-2009, 06:37 PM	#12
Joker Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Milwaukee/Tosa Age: 29 Bike: Fiddy, SDG, F4i, 929RR Gender: Male Posts: 1,713	Re: Sub cages worth it? I weigh 230 lbs... won't ride without one. One less thing to worry about.

10-30-2009, 06:42 PM	#13
StrictlyStunt www.STRICTLYSTUNT.com Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Coopersburg PA Bike: OMR PREPPED F4I, supermoto, 50, superjet Gender: Male Posts: 21,324	Re: Sub cages worth it? OMR for the win!!!! __________________ BB messenger pin: 31E6CF8C www.stuntride.com OMR SUBCAGES!!!

10-30-2009, 07:26 PM	#14
MoHawk Post Whore Nazi Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: VA (Bad News)! Thanks USAF. Originally from HAWAII Age: 23 Bike: Hera... My Goddess of Destruction Gender: Male Posts: 7,059	Re: Sub cages worth it? Just not POWERS..... __________________ "i can make a few calls , i went to high school with jesus "-OMR "Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward, and freedom will be defended"

10-31-2009, 09:10 AM	#15
chipottley Never Good Enuff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tampa, Florida, USA Age: 28 Bike: 2005 Honda CBR 600RR Gender: Male Posts: 345	Re: Sub cages worth it? OMR FTW. I REPEAT, OMR FTW! This shouldn't even be up for discussion. not only will his sub cages do everything he says, but they will also help to protect your plastics in a drop/fall (I run full fairings) OMR makes THE BEST cages, PERIOD, and has THE CHEAPEST PRICES......HANDS DOWN! NO bullshit! I've had other cages, so I speak from experience. and not only does he have the best cages at the cheapest prices, he's also got THE BEST SERVICE AND SUPPORT, PERIOD! Bottom Line: OMR is the Shit and So are his cages! and if you order now, he'll also give you a free reach around!! For real though, all joking aside, if you buy anything other than an OMR subcage, you're slippin! My 2c Let's not forget about PERFECT fitment (OMR's have it, others don't) and .........."it's the ORIGINL folding subcage"! See: (and notice my bent peg in this fist pic? notice NO DAMAGE to my plastics ($1,800.00 paint job), NO DAMAGE to my cage, or NO DAMAGE to my subframe! Now, if I could just talk him into makin' rails (that won't murder my frame) we'll be in there! whadda ya say Rog? . Last edited by chipottley; 10-31-2009 at 09:17 AM.

10-31-2009, 01:51 PM	#16
stick1300 Squid Supreme Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Age: 20 Bike: 01 F4i, 05 CRF 50 Gender: Male Posts: 1,605	Re: Sub cages worth it? OMR all the way! If I ever pick up another bike to be my non stunter, it WILL have an OMR subcage on it. They just look plain

10-31-2009, 02:56 PM	#18
aut117 100% SUCKA FREE Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: newark, ohio, u.s Age: 19 Bike: f4i Gender: Male Posts: 741	Re: Sub cages worth it? [quote=chipottley;4181395]OMR FTW. I REPEAT, OMR FTW! This shouldn't even be up for discussion. not only will his sub cages do everything he says, but they will also help to protect your plastics in a drop/fall (I run full fairings) OMR makes THE BEST cages, PERIOD, and has THE CHEAPEST PRICES......HANDS DOWN! NO bullshit! I've had other cages, so I speak from experience. and not only does he have the best cages at the cheapest prices, he's also got THE BEST SERVICE AND SUPPORT, PERIOD! Bottom Line: OMR is the Shit and So are his cages! and if you order now, he'll also give you a free reach around!! For real though, all joking aside, if you buy anything other than an OMR subcage, you're slippin! My 2c Let's not forget about PERFECT fitment (OMR's have it, others don't) and .........."it's the ORIGINL folding subcage"! See: (and notice my bent peg in this fist pic? notice NO DAMAGE to my plastics ($1,800.00 paint job), NO DAMAGE to my cage, or NO DAMAGE to my subframe! Now, if I could just talk him into makin' rails (that won't murder my frame) we'll be in there! whadda ya say Rog?

10-31-2009, 03:23 PM	#19
ProjectFallen Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Omaha, NE Bike: 05 Kawasaki 636, 05 Yamaha R1 Gender: Male Posts: 40	Re: Sub cages worth it? thanks for all the feedback on this! Deffenetily went with the majority vote on this one and just baught a brand new omr sub cage